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Post by Einhorn on Nov 24, 2023 17:26:19 GMT
Suppose you were present at the conference of senior police personnel when the decision on what information should be released was being made. Suppose you had suggested that it is appropriate to endanger innocent lives because innocent lives were endangered on a different continent several years ago. I made no mention of people on different continents. Let me rephrase the question slightly - Should the police withhold the ethnicity of a white policeman who is involved in death of a black person on the grounds that revealing he is white may cause riots or revenge attacks? - ie using the same argument you present. (assuming everyone involved is on the same continent) I can tell you with 100% certainty that that question will not have figured in the decision whether it was appropriate to reveal the ethnicity of the attacker in Dublin. It will not have crossed the mind of a single individual involved in the decision making process, nor should it have. The protection of innocent life was their priority. No reasonable person could disagree with that. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Nov 24, 2023 17:38:48 GMT
It seems the police in Dublin are braced for 'immigrant riots' this evening. They already have water cannons at the ready and hundreds of police are waiting in side streets. This must be what the EU and lefties mean when they preach about multiculturalism.
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Post by Red Rackham on Nov 24, 2023 17:40:33 GMT
I made no mention of people on different continents. Let me rephrase the question slightly - Should the police withhold the ethnicity of a white policeman who is involved in death of a black person on the grounds that revealing he is white may cause riots or revenge attacks? - ie using the same argument you present. (assuming everyone involved is on the same continent) I can tell you with 100% certainty that that question will not have figured in the decision whether it was appropriate to reveal the ethnicity of the attacker in Dublin. It will not have crossed the mind of a single individual involved in the decision making process, nor should it have. The protection of innocent life was their priority. No reasonable person could disagree with that. Can you really be this deluded? I suppose it's a possibility we must seriously consider. |
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Post by Einhorn on Nov 24, 2023 17:43:03 GMT
I can tell you with 100% certainty that that question will not have figured in the decision whether it was appropriate to reveal the ethnicity of the attacker in Dublin. It will not have crossed the mind of a single individual involved in the decision making process, nor should it have. The protection of innocent life was their priority. No reasonable person could disagree with that. Can you really be this deluded? I suppose it's a possibility we must seriously consider. Ridiculous. The police have and should have one priority: the protection of innocent life. You have no problem with people drowning to make a point, so, of course, it stands to reason that you would think it okay to put lives at risk. And the question has to be asked: for what? Why is it so urgent that people know? Why can't it wait until the mobs have calmed and the danger has passed? |
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Post by Red Rackham on Nov 24, 2023 17:49:56 GMT
Can you really be this deluded? I suppose it's a possibility we must seriously consider. Ridiculous. The police have and should have one priority: the protection of innocent life. You have no problem with people drowning to make a point, so, of course, it stands to reason that you would think it okay to put lives at risk. And the question has to be asked: for what? Why is it so urgent that people know? Why can't it wait until the mobs have calmed and the danger has passed? Why do you suppose the police are refusing to identify the assailant? |
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Post by bancroft on Nov 24, 2023 18:14:43 GMT
How long before an Irish Farage turns up?
Some young women were saying on the BBC we can't get on the housing ladder yet we keep supporting immigrants.
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Post by Einhorn on Nov 24, 2023 18:38:26 GMT
Ridiculous. The police have and should have one priority: the protection of innocent life. You have no problem with people drowning to make a point, so, of course, it stands to reason that you would think it okay to put lives at risk. And the question has to be asked: for what? Why is it so urgent that people know? Why can't it wait until the mobs have calmed and the danger has passed? Why do you suppose the police are refusing to identify the assailant? See above, Genius! |
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Post by Red Rackham on Nov 24, 2023 18:41:31 GMT
How long before an Irish Farage turns up? Some young women were saying on the BBC we can't get on the housing ladder yet we keep supporting immigrants. Indeed Bancroft, Irish politicians have been far too liberal in their acceptance of EU migrants. Believe it or not Ireland has seen a 25% increase in population since 2021, that's massive. Irish people were not asked and were not prepared for it. Irish politicians know very well that such a sudden and huge population increase especially by people who have different values and beliefs has caused huge social problems but they refuse to acknowledge this and instead have taken the easy way out and are blaming any unrest on far right extremists. Young people are struggling to find work and housing is a massive issue, yet thousands of migrants continue to flood into Ireland from the EU, people are sick of it and only a fool would be surprised. Politicians who blame 'far right extremists' are stoking the flames. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2023 19:29:53 GMT
Which made me wonder whether he was more concerned for social inclusion or the health of those attacked.
Then I thought, neither, he probably only cares for his job.
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Post by sandypine on Nov 24, 2023 21:08:24 GMT
Which made me wonder whether he was more concerned for social inclusion or the health of those attacked. Then I thought, neither, he probably only cares for his job. You are probably right but then as regards teh first comment is that not why so many are upset in that social inclusion is a demand made of the 'hosts' and seldom seems to apply to the 'guests' and quite often the 'hosts' note that it is failing rather dismally and they are the recipients of that failure. More of the same is not popular. |
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Post by dappy on Nov 24, 2023 21:54:11 GMT
How long before an Irish Farage turns up? Some young women were saying on the BBC we can't get on the housing ladder yet we keep supporting immigrants. Indeed Bancroft, Irish politicians have been far too liberal in their acceptance of EU migrants. Believe it or not Ireland has seen a 25% increase in population since 2021, that's massive. Irish people were not asked and were not prepared for it. Irish politicians know very well that such a sudden and huge population increase especially by people who have different values and beliefs has caused huge social problems but they refuse to acknowledge this and instead have taken the easy way out and are blaming any unrest on far right extremists. Young people are struggling to find work and housing is a massive issue, yet thousands of migrants continue to flood into Ireland from the EU, people are sick of it and only a fool would be surprised. Politicians who blame 'far right extremists' are stoking the flames. Not. |
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Post by buccaneer on Nov 24, 2023 22:09:59 GMT
It seems the police in Dublin are braced for 'immigrant riots' this evening. They already have water cannons at the ready and hundreds of police are waiting in side streets. This must be what the EU and lefties mean when they preach about multiculturalism. You'll also note how the virtues of multiculturalism aren't bandied around anymore by the so-called progressives, but moreover these virtues have come under disrepute and the concept of multiculturalism as an engineered failure is hardly disputed these days. Fifteen years ago it would have been disputed. Today - crickets. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Nov 24, 2023 22:19:38 GMT
It seems the police in Dublin are braced for 'immigrant riots' this evening. They already have water cannons at the ready and hundreds of police are waiting in side streets. This must be what the EU and lefties mean when they preach about multiculturalism. You'll also note how the virtues of multiculturalism aren't bandied around anymore by the so-called progressives, but moreover these virtues have come under disrepute and the concept of multiculturalism as an engineered failure is hardly disputed these days. Fifteen years ago it would have been disputed. Today - crickets. Very true, it's embarrassingly noticeable how these days progressive lefties very rarely if ever mention multiculturalism. They know it's a spectacular failure but dare not admit it. |
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Post by buccaneer on Nov 24, 2023 22:27:17 GMT
You'll also note how the virtues of multiculturalism aren't bandied around anymore by the so-called progressives, but moreover these virtues have come under disrepute and the concept of multiculturalism as an engineered failure is hardly disputed these days. Fifteen years ago it would have been disputed. Today - crickets. Very true, it's embarrassingly noticeable how these days progressive lefties very rarely if ever mention multiculturalism. They know it's a spectacular failure but dare not admit it. Exactamundo. |
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Post by wapentake on Nov 24, 2023 23:03:54 GMT
Very true, it's embarrassingly noticeable how these days progressive lefties very rarely if ever mention multiculturalism. They know it's a spectacular failure but dare not admit it. Exactamundo. I’m old enough to remember him and his orchestra en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edmundo_Ros |
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