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Post by Einhorn on Nov 27, 2023 14:22:40 GMT
What may have happened to white police officers in the past has nothing to do with anything. Public safety is and should be their paramount concern. Public safety and race riots weren't paramount when a white police officer was identified across the globe. It even had ramifications here for crying out loud. Pull the other one. If police officers in another jurisdiction were negligent, that will be no defence if the Irish police find themselves in court because their negligence has caused innocent people to become targets of retribution. We know that you would like someone like Suella Braverman in charge in this case, someone who would pour petrol on the fire. You're shit out of luck, Bubs. You were shit out of luck with Suella Braverman and you're shit out of luck now. Get used to it! |
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Post by Einhorn on Nov 27, 2023 14:23:08 GMT
What may have happened to white police officers in the past has nothing to do with anything. Public safety is and should be their paramount concern. A rather strained effort at tap-dancing. You could usefully take some lessons from a pro. That's not a rebuttal. |
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Post by buccaneer on Nov 27, 2023 14:27:42 GMT
Public safety and race riots weren't paramount when a white police officer was identified across the globe. It even had ramifications here for crying out loud. Pull the other one. If police officers in another jurisdiction were negligent, that will be no defence if the Irish police find themselves in court because their negligence has caused innocent people to become targets of retribution. We know that you would like someone like Suella Braverman in charge in this case, someone who would pour petrol on the fire. You're shit out of luck, Bubs. You were shit out of luck with Suella Braverman and you're shit out of luck now. Get used to it! So, where is your evidence that they are withholding the identity of the perp for safety reasons wormy, or is that something else you've made up? |
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Post by Einhorn on Nov 27, 2023 14:29:34 GMT
If police officers in another jurisdiction were negligent, that will be no defence if the Irish police find themselves in court because their negligence has caused innocent people to become targets of retribution. We know that you would like someone like Suella Braverman in charge in this case, someone who would pour petrol on the fire. You're shit out of luck, Bubs. You were shit out of luck with Suella Braverman and you're shit out of luck now. Get used to it! So, where is your evidence that they are withholding the identity of the perp for safety reasons wormy, or is that something else you've made up? Made up? The entire mod team found against you, Bubs. Every. Last. One. Of. Them. Not one believed you. Get over it. |
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Post by Orac on Nov 27, 2023 14:31:04 GMT
A rather strained effort at tap-dancing. You could usefully take some lessons from a pro. That's not a rebuttal. It didn't need a rebuttal, you made no point that dissolved the accusation of hypocrisy (hence i mention tap-dancing) |
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Post by buccaneer on Nov 27, 2023 14:32:39 GMT
So, where is your evidence that they are withholding the identity of the perp for safety reasons wormy, or is that something else you've made up? Made up? The entire mod team found against you, Bubs. Every. Last. One. Of. Them. Not one believed you. Get over it. You're our resident troll wormy, you're well know for making stuff up just to cause friction. So wormy, where is your evidence that they are withholding the identity of the perp on safety grounds, or are you making this up as well? |
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Post by Einhorn on Nov 27, 2023 14:37:17 GMT
It didn't need a rebuttal, you made no point that dissolved the accusation of hypocrisy (hence i mention tap-dancing) Conference of Senior Police Personnel in Dublin last Thursday Evening. Senior Police Officer Number 1: 'So, tensions are very high, mobs are roaming the streets. Are we all agreed that the identity of the perpetrator should be withheld in the interests of public safety in view of the high possibility of retributive attacks against innocent members of the perpetrator's ethnic group?' Senior Police Officer Number 2: 'Agree.' Senior Police Officer Number 3: 'Agree' Senior Police Officer Orac: 'That would be hypocritical. Protecting innocent life is all well and good, but we don't want to appear hypocritical. After all, police forces in other countries have identified perpetrators in the past. The innocent will just have to take their chances.' |
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Post by Einhorn on Nov 27, 2023 14:39:39 GMT
Made up? The entire mod team found against you, Bubs. Every. Last. One. Of. Them. Not one believed you. Get over it. You're our resident troll wormy, you're well know for making stuff up just to cause friction. So wormy, where is your evidence that they are withholding the identity of the perp on safety grounds, or are you making this up as well? You weren't believed, Bubs. Your 'defence' was unanimously rejected. |
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Post by buccaneer on Nov 27, 2023 14:40:59 GMT
It didn't need a rebuttal, you made no point that dissolved the accusation of hypocrisy (hence i mention tap-dancing) Conference of Senior Police Personnel in Dublin last Thursday Evening. Senior Police Officer Number 1: 'So, tensions are very high, mobs are roaming the streets. Are we all agreed that the identity of the perpetrator should be withheld in the interests of public safety in view of the high possibility of retributive attacks against innocent members of the perpetrator's ethnic group.' Senior Police Officer Number 2: 'Agree.' Senior Police Officer Number 3: 'Agree' Senior Police Officer Orac: 'That would be hypocritical. Protecting innocent life is all well and good, but we don't want to appear hypocritical. After all, police forces in other countries have identified perpetrators in the past. The innocent will just have to take their chances.' There you go Orac, he's making up another story and telling you it's the truth. |
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Post by Einhorn on Nov 27, 2023 14:42:46 GMT
Conference of Senior Police Personnel in Dublin last Thursday Evening. Senior Police Officer Number 1: 'So, tensions are very high, mobs are roaming the streets. Are we all agreed that the identity of the perpetrator should be withheld in the interests of public safety in view of the high possibility of retributive attacks against innocent members of the perpetrator's ethnic group.' Senior Police Officer Number 2: 'Agree.' Senior Police Officer Number 3: 'Agree' Senior Police Officer Orac: 'That would be hypocritical. Protecting innocent life is all well and good, but we don't want to appear hypocritical. After all, police forces in other countries have identified perpetrators in the past. The innocent will just have to take their chances.' There you go Orac, he's making up another story and telling you it's the truth. That's almost as weak as your defence that your words have a private meaning known only to you and that the mod team should attribute your private meaning to them.  |
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Post by buccaneer on Nov 27, 2023 14:43:26 GMT
There you go Orac, he's making up another story and telling you it's the truth. That's almost as weak as your defence that your words have a private meaning known only to you and that this meaning should be attributed to them. Isn't it time Monty changed your nappy? You clearly can't back up what you are saying here about public safety wormy. Peddling more lies just to incite a flame war. |
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Post by Orac on Nov 27, 2023 14:46:33 GMT
Conference of Senior Police Personnel in Dublin last Thursday Evening. Senior Police Officer Number 1: 'So, tensions are very high, mobs are roaming the streets. Are we all agreed that the identity of the perpetrator should be withheld in the interests of public safety in view of the high possibility of retributive attacks against innocent members of the perpetrator's ethnic group.' Senior Police Officer Number 2: 'Agree.' Senior Police Officer Number 3: 'Agree' Senior Police Officer Orac: 'That would be hypocritical. Protecting innocent life is all well and good, but we don't want to appear hypocritical. After all, police forces in other countries have identified perpetrators in the past. The innocent will just have to take their chances.' There you go Orac, he's making up another story and telling you it's the truth. And still nothing that dissolves my point about him using the public order argument in bad faith (ie hypocrisy). I think much of the left take a black box (functional) view about argumentation - that is, if it gets you want or potentially covers a gaping hole in your position, an argument should be used. |
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Post by Einhorn on Nov 27, 2023 14:52:23 GMT
That's almost as weak as your defence that your words have a private meaning known only to you and that this meaning should be attributed to them. Isn't it time Monty changed your nappy? You clearly can't back up what you are saying here about public safety wormy. Peddling more lies just to incite a flame war. The police didn't identify the attacker because they don't want some right-wing nut with a knife turning up outside a school attended by members of the perpetrator's ethnic group. They have put the safety of innocent children ahead of your malicious curiosity, Bubs. They will always do that. Things will never change on that front. So, you might as well get used to it. |
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Post by Einhorn on Nov 27, 2023 14:53:54 GMT
There you go Orac, he's making up another story and telling you it's the truth. And still nothing that dissolves my point about him using the public order argument in bad faith (ie hypocrisy). I think much of the left take a black box (functional) view about argumentation - that is, if it gets you want or potentially covers a gaping hole in your position, an argument should be used. See above. The police don't want children from the perpetrator's ethnic group made the victims of right-wing revenge attacks. They don't want to risk it. That's how it will always be. And that's how it should be. |
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Post by Vinny on Nov 27, 2023 14:55:05 GMT
We don't know what ethnicity the knifeman is, but rioting solves nothing.
Throw the book at the petrol bomb throwing thugs.
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