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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Nov 22, 2023 20:45:01 GMT
Democracy is bunk. If a child, this is an analogy for the electorate, was in the process of harming themselves, would you stop it? Of course, even if the child objected, and it would. This is where we are at the moment, in the land of the blind, the one eyed man is king. Are the government elite blind?, red or blue yes. You mr hornet are happy allowing a child of yours to burn itself or worse. This does open up the question of whether the human race is capable of learning from its mistakes, that the child wont burn itself again next time. The answer is no, certainly in the socialists case, that they still churn out the same mind blowing nonsense over and over. The case is less clear in the Blue corner, whatever, it is clear to me that humans still need a parent. FOR GODS SAKE. Look at the Ukraine, the middle east, countless wars in Africa, children dying of disease and malnutrition. The British need food banks, we are crapping in our own nest with uncontrolled immigration, the mills churn out poison in Russia and China. Britian is at war with itself, as is America, Russia is at war with everyone. China is malignant, since its emergence it knows nothing. Theresa May betrayed this cointry openly, Corbyn became the second most powerful man in the land. The BBC runs britain. All for the will of the people. The will of the people is b o llocks. It lacks wisdom, intelligence, insight, intelligenge of the meanest kind, and my proof of the pudding, look above. The danger is that if we concentrate power in one good man, that will be usurped and someone like Corbyn will take over, and introduce death camps etc. Oh, they exist in North Korea and Russia, China. Is human kind on its own death march?, i think so, the Universe will be better without this nonsense. Good afternoon. So in other words you don't like democracy anymore because it looks like your side is going to lose the next election? We don't have a democracy when the establishment always wins. |
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Post by see2 on Nov 22, 2023 20:55:31 GMT
Then they were two stupid people (what else would one expect on GB news). The basic difference between the two parties is, the main aim of the Tory system is to ensure that financial success enriches the rich, to the exclusion of the rest. The main aim of moderate Labour (that excludes Lefties like Corbyn) is to use the same systems to favour the 'many not the few'. Thereby eliminating any need for a revolution. I think that is a misrepresentation. The Tory philosophy believes that allowing enrichment at the top works to everyone's benefit. Labour over the last 50 years seem to have spent most of their time classing 'the many' as those in the rest of the world, most especially those that can get here by hook or by crook, and the few as mainly their own core vote here at home upon whom they have defecated from a great height. As someone who is reasonably happy with the capitalist system, especially reward for effort and reward for knowledge and ability. But that is no excuse for the greed at the top. I have worked both as a skilled engineer and as a professionally trained individual, so I understand that they are two very different worlds. Your remark on "the rest of the world" is ill gotten propaganda garbage. The Tories have had just on 14 years in government, if anything it seems that the numbers coming in have increased. |
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Post by sheepy on Nov 22, 2023 21:45:47 GMT
Except they certainly did benefit the few at great cost to the many. Not true. The first hurdles they had to sort out were the big black economic holes left by the Tories in both the NHS and in state Education, which NL sorted for the benefit of the many, not the few. You sure you didn't mean to post this in alternative realities? |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2023 22:00:40 GMT
So in other words you don't like democracy anymore because it looks like your side is going to lose the next election? We don't have a democracy when the establishment always wins. We have an elected dictatorship where voting is mere illusion of change to maintain the charade between two main parties. I'd say the illusion keeps it going where an honest dictatorship forces people to revolt at an instinctive level. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Nov 22, 2023 22:07:23 GMT
Except they certainly did benefit the few at great cost to the many. Not true. The first hurdles they had to sort out were the big black economic holes left by the Tories in both the NHS and in state Education, which NL sorted for the benefit of the many, not the few. LOL, you're having a laugh. Blair got into bed with private medicine more than any Conservative government ever have. He signed off £18 billion in PFI contracts that were, and still are, extremely costly for the tax payer, and extremely profitable for the private sector. |
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Post by Pacifico on Nov 22, 2023 22:29:16 GMT
Naive twaddle..  , even Theresa May called for changes to the fact the CEOs and those at the top should have a reward system that stopped them from pocketing all excess profits. She suggested a link between the top earners and the lower earners where the lower earners pay would rise and fall along with the top earners. New Labour did call for 'using the system for the benefit of the many not the few'. But the evidence is not there. The opening of the floodgates by New Labour certainly benefitted those immigrating to the UK, it most certainly did not benefit the host population. Karl Marx recognised over a hundred years ago what would be the effect on the working man if you increased the pool of available labour. But New Labour didn't care, they went ahead anyway. |
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Post by seniorcitizen007 on Nov 22, 2023 22:35:34 GMT
By the time our next election comes round maybe people will be thinking: "Why can't we have a "far right" government like these other countries?"?
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Nov 22, 2023 23:45:20 GMT
They'll probably also be asking why we can't have PR.
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Post by Red Rackham on Nov 23, 2023 1:42:15 GMT
Call it what you like the evidence is there, even Theresa May called for changes to the fact the CEOs and those at the top should have a reward system that stopped them from pocketing all excess profits. She suggested a link between the top earners and the lower earners where the lower earners pay would rise and fall along with the top earners. New Labour did call for 'using the system for the benefit of the many not the few'. But the evidence is not there. The opening of the floodgates by New Labour certainly benefitted those immigrating to the UK, it most certainly did not benefit the host population. Karl Marx recognised over a hundred years ago what would be the effect on the working man if you increased the pool of available labour. But New Labour didn't care, they went ahead anyway. Oddly enough Enoch Powell also warned us of the effect immigration would have on this country. The left shouted him down and called him a racist. Yet no one today can say he was wrong. Blimey, Marx and Powell singing from the same Hymn sheet, there's a conundrum for lefties. |
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Post by jonksy on Nov 23, 2023 5:01:44 GMT
Can i draw your attention to the next election, the Reds will win, its highly liikely. That means MORE of what we get today, there is no choice anymore, its a dictatoship, disguised. It will get worse, you are being abused politically in countless ways. Hands up those that have had enough. Four words for you: Will of the people Four words for you.
Peoples views don't count.
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Post by Red Rackham on Nov 23, 2023 5:06:47 GMT
Four words for you: Will of the people Four words for you.
Peoples views don't count.
Not in the short term, but as Farage and UKIP showed, persistence pays off. |
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Post by jonksy on Nov 23, 2023 5:09:27 GMT
Four words for you.
Peoples views don't count.
Not in the short term, but as Farage and UKIP showed, persistence pays off.But it is still run by the establishment Red. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Nov 23, 2023 5:16:14 GMT
Not in the short term, but as Farage and UKIP showed, persistence pays off.But it is still run by the establishment Red. Indeed, the establishment has become far too left wing which is why we need another Thatcher, dare I say Farage, in number 10. Someone with balls someone who is willing to put the majority and the country first and isn't frightened of offending left wing ESG extremists. |
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Post by happyhornet on Nov 23, 2023 6:35:28 GMT
Four words for you: Will of the people Four words for you.
Peoples views don't count.
So all that will of the people stuff was just a flag of convenience? |
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Post by jonksy on Nov 23, 2023 7:01:33 GMT
Four words for you.
Peoples views don't count.
So all that will of the people stuff was just a flag of convenience? The fucking establishment run the country not the government. You should know that as you always back the lefty establishment. |
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