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Post by Red Rackham on Nov 20, 2023 14:29:14 GMT
In January this year Sunak announced five pledges: 1. Reduce debt. 2. Halve inflation. 3. Grow the economy. 4. Cut waiting lists 5. Stop the boats. Moving on ten months... This morning Sunak announced a new list of five pledges: 1. Reduce debt. 2. Cut tax. 3. World class education. 4. Building sustainable energy. 5. Backing British business. You may notice that stopping the boats is not mentioned in Sunak's new list of pledges. www.gbnews.com/news/immigration-news-sunak-stop-boats-bev-turnerIs this the clearest signal yet that at the next election Tory voters should vote Reform UK. |
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Post by Fairsociety on Nov 20, 2023 14:49:24 GMT
It's as clear as day Sunak has no intentions of using laws available to him or for that matter drafting in new emergency laws to combat these illegal boat migrants, the fact they are arriving each and every day as blatant as you like, finding money to pay traffickers, where are they finding all this money, apparently when they arrive here all they have to their name are the clothes they stand in.
Sunak is making people traffickers very wealthy, who would have thought a Prime Minister would be aiding and abetting criminals.
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Post by dappy on Nov 20, 2023 14:56:43 GMT
To be fair to Sunak, I think these five latest pledges are just relating to the economy rather than wider issues - hence the reason why waiting lists are not included either - arguably the most important issue of all.
Whether you take seriously any of Sunak's election year re-sets and objectives is entirely up to you. Have to say I have given up listening to him.
Little bet though Red. I bet come election day you will vote Tory (lead by Sunak).
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Post by Fairsociety on Nov 20, 2023 15:19:15 GMT
To be fair to Sunak, I think these five latest pledges are just relating to the economy rather than wider issues - hence the reason why waiting lists are not included either - arguably the most important issue of all. Whether you take seriously any of Sunak's election year re-sets and objectives is entirely up to you. Have to say I have given up listening to him. Little bet though Red. I bet come election day you will vote Tory (lead by Sunak). The only way the Tories have a remote chance of winning the next GE is by getting shut of Sunak, he's as dull as dish water, he's doing the opposite to what Tory voters expect, we are having to witness before our very eyes the breakdown of law and order JSO/Pro-Palestine Protesters breaking the law on a daily basis, the police/courts doing nothing.
Then we have the illegal migrants and the French dinghy service, where is the leadership? There is none.
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Post by Red Rackham on Nov 20, 2023 19:16:26 GMT
It's as clear as day Sunak has no intentions of using laws available to him or for that matter drafting in new emergency laws to combat these illegal boat migrants, the fact they are arriving each and every day as blatant as you like, finding money to pay traffickers, where are they finding all this money, apparently when they arrive here all they have to their name are the clothes they stand in. Sunak is making people traffickers very wealthy, who would have thought a Prime Minister would be aiding and abetting criminals. I agree, I don't think Sunak see's it as a problem. He pretends it's an issue but without action words are pointless. And without leaving the ECHR words will continue to be pointless. Especially now pro EU Cameron is Foreign Secretary and the new Home Secretary James Cleverly has made it perfectly clear he is against leaving the convention. Sunak is surrounding himself with like minded pro EU globalists. I'm thinking, does he know there's an election soon, or is he already looking forward to his new job working for Elon Musk. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Nov 20, 2023 19:22:34 GMT
To be fair to Sunak, I think these five latest pledges are just relating to the economy rather than wider issues - hence the reason why waiting lists are not included either - arguably the most important issue of all. Whether you take seriously any of Sunak's election year re-sets and objectives is entirely up to you. Have to say I have given up listening to him. Little bet though Red. I bet come election day you will vote Tory (lead by Sunak). Dappy, ten months ago Sunak read out his list of five pledges which included stopping the boats. Today the boats are just as big an issue, but it no longer appear on his list of five pledges. As many people predict, he has no intention of stopping illegals landing on English beaches. And from his mansion in California, I doubt he will give it a second thought. |
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Post by andrewbrown on Nov 20, 2023 19:24:49 GMT
I'm more worried about the NHS waiting lists to be honest.
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Nov 20, 2023 20:32:18 GMT
In January this year Sunak announced five pledges: 1. Reduce debt. 2. Halve inflation. 3. Grow the economy. 4. Cut waiting lists 5. Stop the boats. Moving on ten months... This morning Sunak announced a new list of five pledges: 1. Reduce debt. 2. Cut tax. 3. World class education. 4. Building sustainable energy. 5. Backing British business. You may notice that stopping the boats is not mentioned in Sunak's new list of pledges. www.gbnews.com/news/immigration-news-sunak-stop-boats-bev-turnerIs this the clearest signal yet that at the next election Tory voters should vote Reform UK. No because the NHS is also not mentioned in the second list and the NHS is actually a higher voter priority than the boats. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Nov 20, 2023 20:53:18 GMT
No because the NHS is also not mentioned in the second list and the NHS is actually a higher voter priority than the boats. Nonsense, BvL 52% of people say immigration should be reduced. 32% say immigration should be reduced a lot. That's a lot of votes and the majority of them are red wall voters. Immigration illegal or otherwise, is a massive issue. |
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Post by Dan Dare on Nov 20, 2023 21:02:24 GMT
There's no obvious evidence that our current political leadership, being largely of immigrant stock themselves, have much interest in reducing immigration.  |
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Post by dappy on Nov 20, 2023 22:42:56 GMT
Yet again it seems “immigration” is being confused with “asylum”.
Whether you think asylum is a major issue or not, asylum is a tiny proportion of immigration. You could stop all asylum claims and total immigration would be almost unchanged. You could cut immigration without doing anything about asylum - the two things are not the same.
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Post by dappy on Nov 20, 2023 22:44:24 GMT
No because the NHS is also not mentioned in the second list and the NHS is actually a higher voter priority than the boats. Nonsense, BvL 52% of people say immigration should be reduced. 32% say immigration should be reduced a lot. That's a lot of votes and the majority of them are red wall voters. Immigration illegal or otherwise, is a massive issue. Polls say cost of living and NHS are far more important issues for the electorate than immigration - conventional or asylum |
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Post by Red Rackham on Nov 20, 2023 23:03:22 GMT
Yet again it seems “immigration” is being confused with “asylum”. Whether you think asylum is a major issue or not, asylum is a tiny proportion of immigration. You could stop all asylum claims and total immigration would be almost unchanged. You could cut immigration without doing anything about asylum - the two things are not the same. You are, predictably, quite wrong. “Immigration” and “Asylum” are massive issues in this country because the immigration and asylum system is not fit for purpose and is routinely and obviously abused, particularly by the left wing Home Office, the left wing Civil Service and of course, left wing lawyers and charities. |
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Post by dappy on Nov 20, 2023 23:14:20 GMT
You still seem confused about the difference between conventional immigration and asylum.
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Nov 20, 2023 23:36:06 GMT
No because the NHS is also not mentioned in the second list and the NHS is actually a higher voter priority than the boats. Nonsense, BvL 52% of people say immigration should be reduced. 32% say immigration should be reduced a lot. That's a lot of votes and the majority of them are red wall voters. Immigration illegal or otherwise, is a massive issue. Unfortunately I could not locate the source, but it was from a polling company, possibly Yougov. They ranked the economy first and I think the NHS came in at about 3 and the immigration (boats?) was fifth. The problem with these polls is that it really does hinge by a large amount on what question you ask, and also the other questions you ask before the one you are interested in. Newspaper polls are a waste of time as the sample is skewed, and so best use one of the main polling companies. Unfortunately Yougov's website is designed by a bloody stupid blonde, so is impossible to navigate. |
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