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Post by Red Rackham on Nov 20, 2023 21:43:29 GMT
I'll tell you what will wake people up and snap them out of this period of woke insanity we're going through, a war. And I have to say upfront I'm certainly not wishing for it. But I'm convinced the only reason society has gone this way, soft, is because people are comfortable they have never known hardship, and when I say hardship I'm not talking about not having the latest hand held device or having to make do with a 50 inch flat screen TV. People today are spoiled, they're entitled and pampered. People who think pronouns are so terribly important should talk to someone who lived through the blitz, or grew up with rationing in a 1950's slum. These things and more would be incomprehensible to gen Z types who have a very sanitised view of very recent history and take everything for granted.
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Post by see2 on Nov 20, 2023 21:51:25 GMT
Or, maybe, you've no idea what you're talking about. Thank you for conceding Darling . You want to impose a new reality not a name . You don’t want men to be called women , you want men to be legally defined( ie the definition imposed ) as women ….when they feel like it You want Dave the 6ft male driver to be legally redefined as Doris ..no different from biological woman …when he feels like it. You want heretics to be punished . Not only that but your chosen method is a linguistic theory that claims any word can mean anything . Its the cult of changing genitals by magic words and it’s a religious dogma . Feelings dominate a brain that cannot feel anything for itself. |
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Post by Bentley on Nov 20, 2023 21:56:54 GMT
Thank you for conceding Darling . You want to impose a new reality not a name . You don’t want men to be called women , you want men to be legally defined( ie the definition imposed ) as women ….when they feel like it You want Dave the 6ft male driver to be legally redefined as Doris ..no different from biological woman …when he feels like it. You want heretics to be punished . Not only that but your chosen method is a linguistic theory that claims any word can mean anything . Its the cult of changing genitals by magic words and it’s a religious dogma . Feelings dominate a brain that cannot feel anything for itself. Christ..don’t you start 🙄 |
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Post by Einhorn on Nov 20, 2023 22:08:15 GMT
Wrong on all points. Do you want to be reminded of the blindingly obvious? Okay, here goes: A person born with a penis can never be a woman in a society or group that defines a woman as someone who was born with a vagina; a person born with a penis can be a woman in a society that defines a woman according to the bio-chemical make-up of their brain. Which definition a society or group has in actuality is a matter of empirical fact. Fact: woman, n. An adult female human being. The counterpart of man (see man, n.¹ II.4.). www.oed.com/search/dictionary/?scope=Entries&q=womanYou carry on with your culture war of trying to redefine words to your own dogma Darling. And it seems that the trans cult has lost its controversial war on scrapping single-sex services that protects the privacy, dignity and safety of women. Righto. You stick to your definition and we'll stick to ours, Bubbles. |
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Post by Einhorn on Nov 20, 2023 22:10:15 GMT
No a false definition is not being imposed; A 'different' definition is being recognised. Not by you, of course. But that's okay. It is ( or would be) being imposed . A biological male would have a new definition imposed . A definition that would make them legally the same as females . Even though they clearly are not . You are the new clergy …the new talking snake believers . I'm pretty sure we're much worse than that. Try harder. |
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Post by see2 on Nov 20, 2023 22:11:00 GMT
Feelings dominate a brain that cannot feel anything for itself. Christ..don’t you start 🙄 Just mentioning a true fact should be welcomed. |
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Post by Bentley on Nov 20, 2023 22:15:48 GMT
Christ..don’t you start 🙄 Just mentioning a true fact should be welcomed. Is that what you feel? |
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Post by see2 on Nov 20, 2023 22:20:27 GMT
I'll tell you what will wake people up and snap them out of this period of woke insanity we're going through, a war. And I have to say upfront I'm certainly not wishing for it. But I'm convinced the only reason society has gone this way, soft, is because people are comfortable they have never known hardship, and when I say hardship I'm not talking about not having the latest hand held device or having to make do with a 50 inch flat screen TV. People today are spoiled, they're entitled and pampered. People who think pronouns are so terribly important should talk to someone who lived through the blitz, or grew up with rationing in a 1950's slum. These things and more would be incomprehensible to gen Z types who have a very sanitised view of very recent history and take everything for granted. No No No, people today are relaxed enough to look at the reality. Take a look at the people around you, if you cannot see the physical mix of males and females around you amongst otherwise 'normal' people, you are not looking. When you eventually recognise the mix, then consider the internal mix in terms of hormonal reality and or the hormonal influence that can take place. |
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Post by Pacifico on Nov 20, 2023 22:20:58 GMT
Thank you for conceding Darling . You want to impose a new reality not a name . You don’t want men to be called women , you want men to be legally defined( ie the definition imposed ) as women ….when they feel like it You want Dave the 6ft make driver to be legally redefined as Doris ..no different from biological woman …when he feels like it. You want heretics to be punished . Not only that but your chosen method is a linguistic theory that claims any word can mean anything . Its the cult of changing genitals by magic words and it’s a religious dogma . Wrong on all points. Do you want to be reminded of the blindingly obvious? Okay, here goes: A person born with a penis can never be a woman in a society or group that defines a woman as someone who was born with a vagina; a person born with a penis can be a woman in a society that defines a woman according to the bio-chemical make-up of their brain. Which definition a society or group has in actuality is a matter of empirical fact.Well not really - it's a matter of biology. What separates male from female is biology, not societal definition. If you want to argue that you can change your biology by force of will then feel free to argue that - it will be an interesting argument. |
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Post by see2 on Nov 20, 2023 22:21:33 GMT
Just mentioning a true fact should be welcomed. Is that what you feel? Its what I know. |
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Post by Einhorn on Nov 20, 2023 22:25:16 GMT
Wrong on all points. Do you want to be reminded of the blindingly obvious? Okay, here goes: A person born with a penis can never be a woman in a society or group that defines a woman as someone who was born with a vagina; a person born with a penis can be a woman in a society that defines a woman according to the bio-chemical make-up of their brain. Which definition a society or group has in actuality is a matter of empirical fact.Well not really - it's a matter of biology. What separates male from female is biology, not societal definition. If you want to argue that you can change your biology by force of will then feel free to argue that - it will be an interesting argument. No, it's not. Nobody's saying that someone born with a penis is biologically the same as someone born with a vagina. But society decides what the marker of a particular gender is. One society can decide it is genitalia, another can decide that it is the bio-chemistry of the brain. What the gender is will differ according to which society or group's definition is used. |
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Post by Bentley on Nov 20, 2023 22:31:57 GMT
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Post by Red Rackham on Nov 20, 2023 22:38:05 GMT
I'll tell you what will wake people up and snap them out of this period of woke insanity we're going through, a war. And I have to say upfront I'm certainly not wishing for it. But I'm convinced the only reason society has gone this way, soft, is because people are comfortable they have never known hardship, and when I say hardship I'm not talking about not having the latest hand held device or having to make do with a 50 inch flat screen TV. People today are spoiled, they're entitled and pampered. People who think pronouns are so terribly important should talk to someone who lived through the blitz, or grew up with rationing in a 1950's slum. These things and more would be incomprehensible to gen Z types who have a very sanitised view of very recent history and take everything for granted. No No No, people today are relaxed enough to look at the reality. Take a look at the people around you, if you cannot see the physical mix of males and females around you amongst otherwise 'normal' people, you are not looking. When you eventually recognise the mix, then consider the internal mix in terms of hormonal reality and or the hormonal influence that can take place. That's pretty much the response I would expect from someone who has no concept of what lies beyond the horizon. |
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Post by see2 on Nov 20, 2023 22:41:46 GMT
Ha ha ha, that's what you don't know being projected onto me AGAIN  Bye. |
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Post by see2 on Nov 20, 2023 22:43:58 GMT
No No No, people today are relaxed enough to look at the reality. Take a look at the people around you, if you cannot see the physical mix of males and females around you amongst otherwise 'normal' people, you are not looking. When you eventually recognise the mix, then consider the internal mix in terms of hormonal reality and or the hormonal influence that can take place. That's pretty much the response I would expect from someone who has no concept of what lies beyond the horizon. Have you ever weighed up people in an attempt to recognise the physical mix? |
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Bye.