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Post by Bentley on Nov 20, 2023 20:04:04 GMT
You support a biological man to be redefined as a woman when they clearly are not . You support the definition imposed by authority and the act disbelieving to be illegal . Its a religious dogma Darling . Its the imposition of a definition that is clearly false imposed on to society . No, it's not religious dogma, for the reasons I've outlined. Maybe, you'll bring Platonism back. It was very big up to the middle-ages. There's no reason why you shouldn't spearhead its re-emergence. Darling , you support the legal definition of a biological male to be redefined as a biological female …whenever the biological male feels like it. You support a delusion to be given legal status and you support this by using a linguistic theory that could just as easily be used to redefine religion as Platonism . Its a religious dogma. It claims that reality is whatever it says it is . |
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Post by Einhorn on Nov 20, 2023 20:13:18 GMT
No, it's not religious dogma, for the reasons I've outlined. Maybe, you'll bring Platonism back. It was very big up to the middle-ages. There's no reason why you shouldn't spearhead its re-emergence. Darling , you support the legal definition of a biological male to be redefined as a biological female …whenever the biological male feels like it. You support a delusion to be given legal status and you support this by using a linguistic theory that could just as easily be used to redefine religion as Platonism . Its a religious dogma. It claims that reality is whatever it says it is . Or, maybe, you've no idea what you're talking about. |
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Post by Bentley on Nov 20, 2023 20:22:35 GMT
Darling , you support the legal definition of a biological male to be redefined as a biological female …whenever the biological male feels like it. You support a delusion to be given legal status and you support this by using a linguistic theory that could just as easily be used to redefine religion as Platonism . Its a religious dogma. It claims that reality is whatever it says it is . Or, maybe, you've no idea what you're talking about. Thank you for conceding Darling . You want to impose a new reality not a name . You don’t want men to be called women , you want men to be legally defined( ie the definition imposed ) as women ….when they feel like it You want Dave the 6ft male driver to be legally redefined as Doris ..no different from biological woman …when he feels like it. You want heretics to be punished . Not only that but your chosen method is a linguistic theory that claims any word can mean anything . Its the cult of changing genitals by magic words and it’s a religious dogma . |
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Post by sandypine on Nov 20, 2023 20:24:33 GMT
I do not disagree but I said that common usage has to be medium of change. Law can be the medium in terms of homosexuality and illegal and legal so a law changed changed the common usage indirectly. But if law mandates that a word has to have a certain meaning we are in dangerous waters, the law has to define what words mean in law but it cannot and should not enforce a change in use or meaning onto the public. Misgendering is a rip tide waiting in the wings and takes away one of the classic jokes when one asks a man, did you think that when you were a wee lassie. I don't favour laws that require people to gender anyone in a particular way. It's a matter of simple courtesy. It may be, it also may be a pandering to those who like to be difficult and giving in to their every wish just heightens their needs for more attention. Calling someone that which you know they are not may be a simple courtesy but the ramifications could be very dangerous by allowing them access to areas whereby they present a greater risk to others. Some do favour laws to enforce 'correct' gendering and mandating allowance that others find bot uncomfortable and dangerous. It could be the proverbial slippery slope. |
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Post by Einhorn on Nov 20, 2023 20:26:48 GMT
Or, maybe, you've no idea what you're talking about. Thank you for conceding Darling . You want to impose a new reality not a name . You don’t want men to be called women , you want men to be legally defined( ie the definition imposed ) as women ….when they feel like it You want Dave the 6ft make driver to be legally redefined as Doris ..no different from biological woman …when he feels like it. You want heretics to be punished . Not only that but your chosen method is a linguistic theory that claims any word can mean anything . Its the cult of changing genitals by magic words and it’s a religious dogma . Wrong on all points. Do you want to be reminded of the blindingly obvious? Okay, here goes: A person born with a penis can never be a woman in a society or group that defines a woman as someone who was born with a vagina; a person born with a penis can be a woman in a society that defines a woman according to the bio-chemical make-up of their brain. Which definition a society or group has in actuality is a matter of empirical fact. |
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Post by Einhorn on Nov 20, 2023 20:27:31 GMT
I don't favour laws that require people to gender anyone in a particular way. It's a matter of simple courtesy. It may be, it also may be a pandering to those who like to be difficult and giving in to their every wish just heightens their needs for more attention. Calling someone that which you know they are not may be a simple courtesy but the ramifications could be very dangerous by allowing them access to areas whereby they present a greater risk to others. Some do favour laws to enforce 'correct' gendering and mandating allowance that others find bot uncomfortable and dangerous. It could be the proverbial slippery slope. Take it up with them, then. |
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Post by Bentley on Nov 20, 2023 20:34:14 GMT
Thank you for conceding Darling . You want to impose a new reality not a name . You don’t want men to be called women , you want men to be legally defined( ie the definition imposed ) as women ….when they feel like it You want Dave the 6ft make driver to be legally redefined as Doris ..no different from biological woman …when he feels like it. You want heretics to be punished . Not only that but your chosen method is a linguistic theory that claims any word can mean anything . Its the cult of changing genitals by magic words and it’s a religious dogma . Wrong on all points. Do you want to be reminded of the blindingly obvious? Okay, here goes: A person born with a penis can never be a woman in a society or group that defines a woman as someone who was born with a vagina; a person born with a penis can be a woman in a society that defines a woman according to the bio-chemical make-up of their brain. Which definition a society or group has in actuality is a matter of empirical fact. In other words impose a false definition. For bio chemical make up read ..delusion . Dave the 6ft welder with an 8 inch dick is a woman because he thinks he is . It’s his brain you know … In other news the wafer becomes the body of Christ during communion because it shares a chemical similarity with Jesus Christ . |
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Post by sandypine on Nov 20, 2023 20:34:14 GMT
It may be, it also may be a pandering to those who like to be difficult and giving in to their every wish just heightens their needs for more attention. Calling someone that which you know they are not may be a simple courtesy but the ramifications could be very dangerous by allowing them access to areas whereby they present a greater risk to others. Some do favour laws to enforce 'correct' gendering and mandating allowance that others find bot uncomfortable and dangerous. It could be the proverbial slippery slope. Take it up with them, then. Thanks for the permission and I thought largely that is what this debate is about ensuring that women are women and men are men and if there are indeterminate areas then that is just a reality we have to accept just as children are born and go through stages they cannot skip a stage and identify as an adult when pre pubescent. |
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Post by Montegriffo on Nov 20, 2023 20:41:10 GMT
Such beating around the bush, call what you think he is a hypocrite the place is full of them anyway, because so is politics in general, so is religion. What the... kin hell the girls are ganging up on me lol. Ladies do your worst.  So long as it's consensual, there's nothing wrong with beating about the bush. Just make sure you have a safe word. |
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Post by Einhorn on Nov 20, 2023 20:42:40 GMT
Take it up with them, then. Thanks for the permission and I thought largely that is what this debate is about ensuring that women are women and men are men and if there are indeterminate areas then that is just a reality we have to accept just as children are born and go through stages they cannot skip a stage and identify as an adult when pre pubescent. Whether a woman is a woman will depend on how a particular group or society defines woman. I may have mentioned that previously. |
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Post by Einhorn on Nov 20, 2023 20:44:17 GMT
Wrong on all points. Do you want to be reminded of the blindingly obvious? Okay, here goes: A person born with a penis can never be a woman in a society or group that defines a woman as someone who was born with a vagina; a person born with a penis can be a woman in a society that defines a woman according to the bio-chemical make-up of their brain. Which definition a society or group has in actuality is a matter of empirical fact. In other words impose a false definition. For bio chemical make up read ..delusion . Dave the 6ft welder with an 8 inch dick is a woman because he thinks he is . It’s his brain you know … In other news the wafer becomes the body of Christ during communion because it shares a chemical similarity with Jesus Christ . No a false definition is not being imposed; A 'different' definition is being recognised. Not by you, of course. But that's okay. |
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Post by Bentley on Nov 20, 2023 20:52:15 GMT
In other words impose a false definition. For bio chemical make up read ..delusion . Dave the 6ft welder with an 8 inch dick is a woman because he thinks he is . It’s his brain you know … In other news the wafer becomes the body of Christ during communion because it shares a chemical similarity with Jesus Christ . No a false definition is not being imposed; A 'different' definition is being recognised. Not by you, of course. But that's okay. It is ( or would be) being imposed . A biological male would have a new definition imposed . A definition that would make them legally the same as females . Even though they clearly are not . You are the new clergy …the new talking snake believers . |
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Post by Red Rackham on Nov 20, 2023 20:56:54 GMT
What the... kin hell the girls are ganging up on me lol. Ladies do your worst. So long as it's consensual, there's nothing wrong with beating about the bush. Just make sure you have a safe word. A safe word isn't much good when your gagged... ...apparently. |
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Post by sheepy on Nov 20, 2023 21:16:18 GMT
It is an alternative reality in the sense it is creating a reality that was not there before, which you won't know the outcome until this new generation changes society to suit said new reality.
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Post by buccaneer on Nov 20, 2023 21:28:02 GMT
Thank you for conceding Darling . You want to impose a new reality not a name . You don’t want men to be called women , you want men to be legally defined( ie the definition imposed ) as women ….when they feel like it You want Dave the 6ft make driver to be legally redefined as Doris ..no different from biological woman …when he feels like it. You want heretics to be punished . Not only that but your chosen method is a linguistic theory that claims any word can mean anything . Its the cult of changing genitals by magic words and it’s a religious dogma . Wrong on all points. Do you want to be reminded of the blindingly obvious? Okay, here goes: A person born with a penis can never be a woman in a society or group that defines a woman as someone who was born with a vagina; a person born with a penis can be a woman in a society that defines a woman according to the bio-chemical make-up of their brain. Which definition a society or group has in actuality is a matter of empirical fact. Fact: woman, n. An adult female human being. The counterpart of man (see man, n.¹ II.4.). www.oed.com/search/dictionary/?scope=Entries&q=womanYou carry on with your culture war of trying to redefine words to your own dogma Darling. And it seems that the trans cult has lost its controversial war on scrapping single-sex services that protects the privacy, dignity and safety of women. |
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