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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2023 9:12:31 GMT
A serious question then, just how would sending people to Rwanda stop the boats? probably for the same reason that sending people to Nauru stopped the boats. Sending people to Rwanda will not stop people coming across in boats, the people sending them will ignore it, the people coming will live in hope. The only way to stop the boats is to open processing centres in France, like we used to have. There was not a boat 'crisis' before the Tories came to power.
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Post by happyhornet on Nov 17, 2023 9:12:48 GMT
This is a problem that came about under a long established right wing government. Said right wing government's response was an unworkable gimmick that appeared to be designed to get a pat on the head from the right wing media rather than fix the problem. Own your shit. Total bollocks. This shit started with blairs illegal war and FOM. Its about time you started to own your own shit hh. I never voted for or supported Blair, never trusted him even in the heady days of 1997 there was something about him that made me uneasy. I don't recall small boats being an issue when he was PM however.
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Post by happyhornet on Nov 17, 2023 9:13:32 GMT
probably for the same reason that sending people to Nauru stopped the boats. Sending people to Rwanda will not stop people coming across in boats, the people sending them will ignore it, the people coming will live in hope. The only way to stop the boats is to open processing centres in France, like we used to have. There was not a boat 'crisis' before the Tories came to power. And everyone seems to overlook that the Rwanda deal is reciprocal.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2023 9:24:04 GMT
Sending people to Rwanda will not stop people coming across in boats, the people sending them will ignore it, the people coming will live in hope. The only way to stop the boats is to open processing centres in France, like we used to have. There was not a boat 'crisis' before the Tories came to power. And everyone seems to overlook that the Rwanda deal is reciprocal. Yup, we get Rwandan asylum seekers.
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Post by Fairsociety on Nov 17, 2023 9:45:22 GMT
Complete and utter piss take, they have been told they can picked up and dropped back off to France, but this government does not want to upset Macron, if they just dropped them back off we would not need Rwanda. Woke being absolutely useless once again..........How comes they managed to make the emergency covid laws within days?
Unelected House of Lords plot to block the Rwanda law that could end scenes of migrants risking their lives in flimsy boats to reach the UK Peers have vowed to block Rishi Sunak in his efforts to tackle the crisis
Absolutely, we witnessed what they didn't want us to witness, just how quickly they can implement laws without all the red tape, laws made in days not weeks, months or years..... days.
They can do the same with these JSO and Pro-Palestinian protesters, all dragged out so people along the chain can have a chunk of tax payers money.
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Post by happyhornet on Nov 17, 2023 9:51:53 GMT
And everyone seems to overlook that the Rwanda deal is reciprocal. Yup, we get Rwandan asylum seekers. Any advocates for the Rwanda scheme care to explain the benefits of this to the UK?
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Post by Fairsociety on Nov 17, 2023 9:54:38 GMT
Yup, we get Rwandan asylum seekers. Any advocates for the Rwanda scheme care to explain the benefits of this to the UK? We are doing exactly what France are doing, pushing the problem somewhere else.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2023 10:05:02 GMT
Any advocates for the Rwanda scheme care to explain the benefits of this to the UK? We are doing exactly what France are doing, pushing the problem somewhere else. Do you think it would be a good idea if we forced the French government to keep asylum seekers that want to come here?
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Post by Fairsociety on Nov 17, 2023 10:18:32 GMT
We are doing exactly what France are doing, pushing the problem somewhere else. Do you think it would be a good idea if we forced the French government to keep asylum seekers that want to come here? They aren't asylum seekers you fool, they are using FOM which is a totally different thing, they cant use FOM in the UK so it's then they rebrand themselves as 'Asylum Seekers', they aren't Asylum seekers in France ........ you clown.
freedom of movement The right to freedom of movement includes the right to move freely within a country for those who are lawfully within the country, the right to leave any country and the right to enter a country of which you are a citizen.
.... except the UK
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Post by happyhornet on Nov 17, 2023 10:42:29 GMT
Any advocates for the Rwanda scheme care to explain the benefits of this to the UK? We are doing exactly what France are doing, pushing the problem somewhere else. If it's a reciprocal arrangement we aren't even doing that.
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Post by Fairsociety on Nov 17, 2023 10:43:24 GMT
We are doing exactly what France are doing, pushing the problem somewhere else. If it's a reciprocal arrangement we aren't even doing that. True, at least France are having success.
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Post by jonksy on Nov 17, 2023 10:48:56 GMT
Total bollocks. This shit started with blairs illegal war and FOM. Its about time you started to own your own shit hh. I never voted for or supported Blair, never trusted him even in the heady days of 1997 there was something about him that made me uneasy. I don't recall small boats being an issue when he was PM however. You are just a lefty virtual signaller who is best ignored hh.
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Post by happyhornet on Nov 17, 2023 10:52:32 GMT
I never voted for or supported Blair, never trusted him even in the heady days of 1997 there was something about him that made me uneasy. I don't recall small boats being an issue when he was PM however. You are just a lefty virtual signaller who is best ignored hh. Again, you have nothing in response but childish name calling.
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Post by jonksy on Nov 17, 2023 10:55:07 GMT
You are just a lefty virtual signaller who is best ignored hh. Again, you have nothing in response but childish name calling. Nothing childish about speaking the truth hh.
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Nov 17, 2023 10:59:38 GMT
So you think a Tory Lib Dem coalition is left leaning? Wow, I've read it all now. I think that the current Conservative Party is left leaning.
Never mind the Fib Dims.
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