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Post by Fairsociety on Jan 27, 2024 14:37:45 GMT
I assume that addressed to fair sheepwash and no me. Yeah but you jumped in between. Not like he would have a clue how to even read the Parliament acts anyway. Ok dopey what has the Parliament act got to do with Sunak/Tories not being in control? The HoL are in control, the Rwanda bill has just confirmed that for us.
Just because you keep repeating the same twaddle over and over again doesn't make it true, and doesn't make it look like you know what you are talking about.
And 'We' can see through it.
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Post by sheepy on Jan 27, 2024 14:39:12 GMT
eh? I voted remain in 2016 yes , that's correct. Where have I said I oppose scotland having closer ties to the eu? is everyone going mental on this forum today or what? You Seem to be mocking Stanmer for wanting to have Closer ties to the EU. Thomas is a Scottish nationalist, he sees no advantage in taking Scotland back into the EU via the UK parliament, it would pretty much destroy the last few years on what Scottish nationalism has stood on. It just politics Einstein not rocket science. |
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Post by sheepy on Jan 27, 2024 14:40:19 GMT
^^^ we? you don't have a clue what they even are until I told you.
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Post by thomas on Jan 27, 2024 14:40:52 GMT
starmer is right wing , according to many with in the Labour Party , and his policy and views on many issues , such as we know, are barely a fag papers width to the left of the tories. you do talk some utter guff on this forum at times. Haha the Communist that seen the overthrow of The then. Labour Government in the later 70s with Strikes that lead to a tory Government for 20yr . Called the labour Government at that time Right wing .Do you think they have something in Common? The other day on here , srb said to me I sounded like a tory regarding the minimum wage , today lefty implies im a communist. The mind boggles. all things to all men at all times, depending on the argument of course. |
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Post by Fairsociety on Jan 27, 2024 14:42:05 GMT
^^^ we? you don't have a clue what they even are until I told you. LOL.... oh ok  |
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Post by thomas on Jan 27, 2024 14:42:15 GMT
You Seem to be mocking Stanmer for wanting to have Closer ties to the EU. Thomas is a Scottish nationalist, he sees no advantage in taking Scotland back into the EU via the UK parliament, it would pretty much destroy the last few years on what Scottish nationalism has stood on. It just politics Einstein not rocket science. im coming around to it sheepy. It could be fun having a laugh with Vinny on how's the European citizenship going , no surrender to the eu that sort of thing. |
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Post by Totheleft on Jan 27, 2024 14:44:09 GMT
You Seem to be mocking Stanmer for wanting to have Closer ties to the EU. I am. It's not me though you have to convince about the eu , it's your fellow countrymen. You know , the people starmer tried to shaft after the 2016 democratic referendum by trying to stop Brexit happening via parliament. He is a duplicitous fool , who didnt even want to honour his own countries democratic vote. Of course Stanmer wanted to delay the result of the referendum he had forsight what Damage Brexit would do to the Country. And he's proven right has we will see when we get another Labour Government. |
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Post by sheepy on Jan 27, 2024 14:47:07 GMT
Thomas is a Scottish nationalist, he sees no advantage in taking Scotland back into the EU via the UK parliament, it would pretty much destroy the last few years on what Scottish nationalism has stood on. It just politics Einstein not rocket science. im coming around to it sheepy. It could be fun having a laugh with Vinny on how's the European citizenship going , no surrender to the eu that sort of thing. I reckon the Westminster party are relying on it, done deal in the background I am told. |
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Post by Fairsociety on Jan 27, 2024 14:52:47 GMT
Thomas is a Scottish nationalist, he sees no advantage in taking Scotland back into the EU via the UK parliament, it would pretty much destroy the last few years on what Scottish nationalism has stood on. It just politics Einstein not rocket science. im coming around to it sheepy. It could be fun having a laugh with Vinny on how's the European citizenship going , no surrender to the eu that sort of thing. I actually thought the people of Scotland had a case to answer for Independence, in 2014 they came the closest they'd ever come to almost securing it.
That was under Alex Salmond, I didn't really like the guy, but his heart was in the right place, and he wasn't anti-British but passionate about Independence.
Sturgeon has destroyed any Independence dream, I think it must be jaw-dropping the corruption and dirty tricks Sturgeon has played, right down to her Covid cover up, to think what she accused Johnson of and took the moral high ground, it's now coming to light she was breaking most Covid lockdown rules, and making up her own.
Sadly for Scotland their dream of Independence is now a pipe dream.
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Post by thomas on Jan 27, 2024 14:54:47 GMT
I am. It's not me though you have to convince about the eu , it's your fellow countrymen. You know , the people starmer tried to shaft after the 2016 democratic referendum by trying to stop Brexit happening via parliament. He is a duplicitous fool , who didnt even want to honour his own countries democratic vote. Of course Stanmer wanted to delay the result of the referendum he had forsight what Damage Brexit would do to the Country. And he's proven right has we will see when we get another Labour Government. He didnt want to delay the result. He died to undemocratically overturn it , and had his arse handed to him on a plate in 2019. You could argue starmers stupidity made Brexit even worse. |
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Post by thomas on Jan 27, 2024 14:56:38 GMT
im coming around to it sheepy. It could be fun having a laugh with Vinny on how's the European citizenship going , no surrender to the eu that sort of thing.
Sadly for Scotland their dream of Independence is now a pipe dream.
you must not conflate the inevitable collapse in snp support , with the end of Scottish independence. With 50 % on average , and growing. , support in the polls for scot indy , it's the highest level it's been in my lifetime. Only the over 65 age group in scotland have a unionist majority. it's a ticking time bomb , and the collapse of the snp isn't going to save the union. |
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Post by thomas on Jan 27, 2024 14:59:52 GMT
im coming around to it sheepy. It could be fun having a laugh with Vinny on how's the European citizenship going , no surrender to the eu that sort of thing. I reckon the Westminster party are relying on it, done deal in the background I am told. so im hearing too. When it dawns on England they are going to lose their independence , it's going to be fun watching starmers binfire burn out of control. Will they be singing no surrender to the EU on the terraces to the England fans in Germany this summer? |
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Post by sheepy on Jan 27, 2024 15:01:13 GMT
Sadly for Scotland their dream of Independence is now a pipe dream.
you must not conflate the inevitable collapse in snp support , with the end of Scottish independence. With 50 % on average , and growing. , support in the polls for scot indy , it's the highest level it's been in my lifetime. Only the over 65 age group in scotland have a unionist majority. it's a ticking time bomb , and the collapse of the snp isn't going to save the union. But I just told you the Westminster party has one of their compromise plans afoot, you get what you asked for, the EU gets what they want and as usual feck everybody else majority or not. It will all turn out to their advantage in the end. Risky but there you go its most definitely on the table, we all know once part of the EU they crush any signs of independence unless they see advantage for themselves in it. So once you are part of the EU again what point it be to divide the UK further, much easier to control under one roof. |
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Post by Fairsociety on Jan 27, 2024 15:01:36 GMT
Sadly for Scotland their dream of Independence is now a pipe dream.
you must not conflate the inevitable collapse in snp support , with the end of Scottish independence. With 50 % on average , and growing. , support in the polls for scot indy , it's the highest level it's been in my lifetime. Only the over 65 age group in scotland have a unionist majority. it's a ticking time bomb , and the collapse of the snp isn't going to save the union. The snp are going to get slaughtered at the next GE, the leader of the snp is almost as bad as the leader of the Tory party, this is the head scratching bit .... why do the snp and the Tories know the leaders they have are disastrous, and if they want a chance at the next GE just get shut of them NOW.
It's like a bad captain of a ship, you relieve them of their duties before they sink the ship.
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Post by Totheleft on Jan 27, 2024 15:01:51 GMT
You Seem to be mocking Stanmer for wanting to have Closer ties to the EU. Thomas is a Scottish nationalist, he sees no advantage in taking Scotland back into the EU via the UK parliament, it would pretty much destroy the last few years on what Scottish nationalism has stood on. It just politics Einstein not rocket science. Thomas attacks New labour on every front not just on the EU . He agrees with everything the right wingers say about labour party. I even remember having Conversation with him about the mess the NHS was and he even said that it was in a better state then when labour was in power. He's still insisting that labour was Responsible for Making Glasgow Bankrupt. I've asked him several times to provide proof but upto know he hasn't. He very strange for a so Called socialist taking right wingers side at every opportunity. His political views seem very twisted. |
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