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Post by zanygame on Jan 10, 2024 19:24:16 GMT
The polls that matter. Says it all. Matter to you. 2023 would you rejoin the EU 51% in favour 31% against 2024 Do you think the UK was wrong to leave the EU. 58% Yes 42% No. I can see why you would want to ignore those polls. The Poll in 2016 was the only one that mattered - you know, that one you are so desperate to ignore. As for your polls - those figures are wrong. Yet the one saying Reform are a new party contender are to be trusted. Hilarious hypocrisy. |
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Post by Pacifico on Jan 10, 2024 22:44:40 GMT
The Poll in 2016 was the only one that mattered - you know, that one you are so desperate to ignore. As for your polls - those figures are wrong. Yet the one saying Reform are a new party contender are to be trusted. Hilarious hypocrisy. What are you gibbering on about - I don't support Reform  |
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Post by zanygame on Jan 11, 2024 7:31:26 GMT
Yet the one saying Reform are a new party contender are to be trusted. Hilarious hypocrisy. What are you gibbering on about - I don't support Reform Well that's what happens when you answer a post not addressed to you. |
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Post by andrewbrown on Jan 15, 2024 8:21:54 GMT
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Post by sheepy on Jan 15, 2024 8:33:20 GMT
Like somehow it actually matters, representative democracy doesn't actually do what it says on the tin. |
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Post by Dogburger on Jan 15, 2024 8:35:38 GMT
There is a long way to go yet . I'm not sure great numbers of people will vote Labour even if they are fed up with Tory incompetence leading probably to a Labour majority with a very small turnout . Reform can take advantage of that and maybe nick a few seats which will give them a platform to push on at the next one . |
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Post by thomas on Jan 15, 2024 8:37:07 GMT
I don't doubt the tories are going to lose Andrew , as I think primarily Sunak is a complete liability , and his decision to employ Cameron as foreign sec a complete twos up to tory brexiters. Im not convinced though labour are going to hit anywhere near where they are currently polling. I think labour could end up ten percentage points below where they currently stand. There are so many variables , it's a hard one to call , despite the seemingly enormous lead for labour. Many folk in Scotland want to give the snp a bloody nose for example , not because support for scot indy is faltering , but because the nu snp have taken their eye off the ball , have been largely inactive under the sturgeon years in terms of advancing the indy cause , their disastrous coalition with the greens , the coronation of yousaf and their gender obsession with cocks in a frock (cheers for that bently that is a cracker!) If indy voters stay at home , labour could do fairly well in Scotland. On the other hand , the thought of a smirking starmer might be too much for many indy supporters to bear. Could similar happen in England? Regarding the tory support deserting to reform ? Has the English former red wall brexiters given up on Brexit ? There are so many things going on that make a return to what has been described as normal politics unlikely in my opinion. Im not convinced starmer is headed for a landslide , but perhaps that is just wishful thinking on my part. Mass immigration under labour , gender obsession , punitive green taxes , the general unfavourability regarding starmer as leader not to mention BRINO , which still sit like the elephant in the room labour is trying desperately to ignore. We used to laugh many many years ago that UKIPs only point was to take votes off the tories. Remember though , they did that too to labour. 62% of labour constituencies voted Brexit in 2016. Are we saying they have all changed their mind and want some BRINO? im not sure. |
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Post by thomas on Jan 15, 2024 8:47:33 GMT
There is a long way to go yet . I'm not sure great numbers of people will vote Labour even if they are fed up with Tory incompetence leading probably to a Labour majority with a very small turnout . Reform can take advantage of that and maybe nick a few seats which will give them a platform to push on at the next one . if projected turnout starts to rise (predicted to be around 50% ) starmer and his party could be in big trouble. I think we are seeing many lefties being suspect of starmer with his stance on Gaza for example ,and it has badly exposed him. No one trusts a thing the man says , and he appears to be throwing every social democratic policy that got him elected leader to the wind. 22% certain to vote labour of the electorate isn't a great endorsement after 14 years of disaster under the tories. Blairs percentage in the run up to 1997 was much higher. |
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Post by sheepy on Jan 15, 2024 8:50:09 GMT
I don't doubt the tories are going to lose Andrew , as I think primarily Sunak is a complete liability , and his decision to employ Cameron as foreign sec a complete twos up to tory brexiters. Im not convinced though labour are going to hit anywhere near where they are currently polling. I think labour could end up ten percentage points below where they currently stand. There are so many variables , it's a hard one to call , despite the seemingly enormous lead for labour. Many folk in Scotland want to give the snp a bloody nose for example , not because support for scot indy is faltering , but because the nu snp have taken their eye off the ball , have been largely inactive under the sturgeon years in terms of advancing the indy cause , their disastrous coalition with the greens , the coronation of yousaf and their gender obsession with cocks in a frock (cheers for that bently that is a cracker!) If indy voters stay at home , labour could do fairly well in Scotland. On the other hand , the thought of a smirking starmer might be too much for many indy supporters to bear. Could similar happen in England? Regarding the tory support deserting to reform ? Has the English former red wall brexiters given up on Brexit ? There are so many things going on that make a return to what has been described as normal politics unlikely in my opinion. Im not convinced starmer is headed for a landslide , but perhaps that is just wishful thinking on my part. Mass immigration under labour , gender obsession , punitive green taxes , the general unfavourability regarding starmer as leader not to mention BRINO , which still sit like the elephant in the room labour is trying desperately to ignore. We used to laugh many many years ago that UKIPs only point was to take votes off the tories. Remember though , they did that too to labour. 62% of labour constituencies voted Brexit in 2016. Are we saying they have all changed their mind and want some BRINO? im not sure. I thought you wanted to come in line with EU policies. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2024 8:52:36 GMT
Or maybe he's not anti-Israel, which would make sense considering he pledged to purge the party of anti-Semitism. Why would anyone be surprised that he's not bending over to Hamas in the media? After all, it's a proscribed terrorist organisation. If the SNP wants to bang the Hamas drum then they can challenge Scottish Labour with it and hope there's enough anti-Semitism up there to hold onto those seats.
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Post by sheepy on Jan 15, 2024 9:00:32 GMT
I guess that makes Jewish protesters in Israel antisemitic not anti-Jewish psychopaths. As you want to turn everything into Israel.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2024 9:06:41 GMT
I guess that makes Jewish protesters in Israel antisemitic not anti-Jewish psychopaths. As you want to turn everything into Israel. Please, that's the main driving force of the IslamoLeft which has been spamming this forum for months. Israel, just like the UK, has its own share of self-loathing fuckwits just not to the same extent. |
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Post by sheepy on Jan 15, 2024 9:13:44 GMT
Ah, I see so protesting against psychopaths is being a feckwit, but shooting peaceful protesters is all good, makes one wonder how keeping people safe from an angry backlash is ever worth the effort.
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Post by Dogburger on Jan 15, 2024 9:21:22 GMT
There is a long way to go yet . I'm not sure great numbers of people will vote Labour even if they are fed up with Tory incompetence leading probably to a Labour majority with a very small turnout . Reform can take advantage of that and maybe nick a few seats which will give them a platform to push on at the next one . if projected turnout starts to rise (predicted to be around 50% ) starmer and his party could be in big trouble. I think we are seeing many lefties being suspect of starmer with his stance on Gaza for example ,and it has badly exposed him. No one trusts a thing the man says , and he appears to be throwing every social democratic policy that got him elected leader to the wind. 22% certain to vote labour of the electorate isn't a great endorsement after 14 years of disaster under the tories. Blairs percentage in the run up to 1997 was much higher. I think people have lost faith in politicians across the board , its hard to find a good one whatever coloured rosette they wear .Reform would give those people somewhere to put their x . So we have a party that people have had enough of , a party who's policies have failed time and again led by Starmer (LOL) and a party that nobody really knows a lot about apart from they haven't got a history of fecking it up yet . I appreciate that Scotland has other choices with regard SNP Great choice eh ? |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2024 9:22:05 GMT
Has anyone else noticed how they're always trying paint themselves as victims whilst following the psychopaths who massacred unarmed civilian teenagers at a party? If they were even remotely concerned about the loss of life then they wouldn't be supporting the main instigator and death cult. Obviously, they don't give a damn, as highlighted by the fact that they never gave a shit about ISIS. They only jump around waving their arms when it's Jew bashing time.
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