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Post by andrewbrown on Jan 9, 2024 12:46:30 GMT
First major test for Reform is Ben Habib, deputy leader, running in the by election in Wellingborough. Seat up for grabs after Peter Bone's recall petition. Tories had chosen a candidate, Peter Bone then said if they didn't swap them for his girlfriend, he'd run as an independent. So his girlfriend is the new candidate... 🙄 Wellingborough seems to be a fairly safe Tory seat (Since 2010), having said that, Ben Habib is very good and Reform seem to be on a roll. Cant see Labour being much of a threat, I suppose a lot could change over the next ten months.  Indeed. It should stay Tory, but it looks quite close. Reform predicted on 12% here, but haven't achieved their polling in any by election yet. www.newstatesman.com/politics/uk-politics/2024/01/who-will-win-the-wellingborough-by-election |
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Post by jonksy on Jan 9, 2024 12:50:53 GMT
Wellingborough seems to be a fairly safe Tory seat (Since 2010), having said that, Ben Habib is very good and Reform seem to be on a roll. Cant see Labour being much of a threat, I suppose a lot could change over the next ten months. Indeed. It should stay Tory, but it looks quite close. Reform predicted on 12% here, but haven't achieved their polling in any by election yet. www.newstatesman.com/politics/uk-politics/2024/01/who-will-win-the-wellingborough-by-electionTooting Conservative candidate tells voters to 'go on strike' and don't vote......Yet another fucking pillock.
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Post by andrewbrown on Jan 9, 2024 13:36:33 GMT
Tooting Conservative candidate tells voters to 'go on strike' and don't vote......Yet another fucking pillock.
Interesting link, thank you. Him telling people not to vote may grab the headline, but for me the real issue was that he had no Tory branding and didn't even say he was a Tory. Sounds like he's trying to distance himself from the party. |
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Post by zanygame on Jan 9, 2024 17:49:29 GMT
Tory nerves will be jangling today after a poll showed Reform UK moving into third place amid rumours of a Nigel Farage comeback. Research by Redfield & Wilton Strategies put the insurgent party on 11 per cent - above the Lib Dems on 10 per cent. It is the joint highest recorded for Reform UK by the firm, and will heighten anxiety in Conservative circles about the right-wing vote being split at the election.
linkYou shouldn't trust polls. No one on here does, Well, the ones that say 60% are in favour of re-joining the EU anyway. |
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Post by Pacifico on Jan 9, 2024 18:04:00 GMT
Tory nerves will be jangling today after a poll showed Reform UK moving into third place amid rumours of a Nigel Farage comeback. Research by Redfield & Wilton Strategies put the insurgent party on 11 per cent - above the Lib Dems on 10 per cent. It is the joint highest recorded for Reform UK by the firm, and will heighten anxiety in Conservative circles about the right-wing vote being split at the election.
linkYou shouldn't trust polls. No one on here does, Well, the ones that say 60% are in favour of re-joining the EU anyway. It doesn't say that |
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Post by jonksy on Jan 9, 2024 18:13:02 GMT
Tory nerves will be jangling today after a poll showed Reform UK moving into third place amid rumours of a Nigel Farage comeback. Research by Redfield & Wilton Strategies put the insurgent party on 11 per cent - above the Lib Dems on 10 per cent. It is the joint highest recorded for Reform UK by the firm, and will heighten anxiety in Conservative circles about the right-wing vote being split at the election.
linkYou shouldn't trust polls. No one on here does, Well, the ones that say 60% are in favour of re-joining the EU anyway. And according to you I am the one who cannot read. Its doesn't state that. Just another zany strawman. |
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Post by andrewbrown on Jan 9, 2024 18:15:06 GMT
He didn't say it did! 😂
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Post by zanygame on Jan 9, 2024 19:06:10 GMT
You shouldn't trust polls. No one on here does, Well, the ones that say 60% are in favour of re-joining the EU anyway. It doesn't say that Oh good you take notice of polls now? So what does it say. |
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Post by Pacifico on Jan 9, 2024 22:29:47 GMT
Oh good you take notice of polls now? So what does it say. Unlike the remainers I take a lot of notice of the polls that matter... |
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Post by zanygame on Jan 10, 2024 9:50:41 GMT
Oh good you take notice of polls now? So what does it say. Unlike the remainers I take a lot of notice of the polls that matter... The polls that matter. Says it all. Matter to you. 2023 would you rejoin the EU 51% in favour 31% against 2024 Do you think the UK was wrong to leave the EU. 58% Yes 42% No. I can see why you would want to ignore those polls. |
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Post by sandypine on Jan 10, 2024 11:19:30 GMT
Unlike the remainers I take a lot of notice of the polls that matter... The polls that matter. Says it all. Matter to you. 2023 would you rejoin the EU 51% in favour 31% against 2024 Do you think the UK was wrong to leave the EU. 58% Yes 42% No. I can see why you would want to ignore those polls. It just shows how effective propaganda can be. If one keeps repeating the scenario that negative effects on x,y and z are primarily due to Brexit then some people will start believing it. It seems that the information disseminators are largely in the control of those who prefer EU membership. It is like the BBC during the referendum where 'Brexit' was used as a punchline in many attempts at humour and for a period afterwards. If one instils negative connotations on something then many will have a negative view on it. We always thought there would be a concerted plan to pull us back into the fold in one way or another and slowly and surely they are drawing their plans against us. |
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Post by Pacifico on Jan 10, 2024 11:39:47 GMT
Unlike the remainers I take a lot of notice of the polls that matter... The polls that matter. Says it all. Matter to you. 2023 would you rejoin the EU 51% in favour 31% against 2024 Do you think the UK was wrong to leave the EU. 58% Yes 42% No. I can see why you would want to ignore those polls. The Poll in 2016 was the only one that mattered - you know, that one you are so desperate to ignore. As for your polls - those figures are wrong. |
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Post by see2 on Jan 10, 2024 16:50:19 GMT
Oh good you take notice of polls now? So what does it say. Unlike the remainers I take a lot of notice of the polls that matter... As someone who voted remain, it is fair comment for me to say you have an ability to ignore the lies. If you didn't many of your posts would at least be slightly different. |
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Post by zanygame on Jan 10, 2024 19:20:03 GMT
The polls that matter. Says it all. Matter to you. 2023 would you rejoin the EU 51% in favour 31% against 2024 Do you think the UK was wrong to leave the EU. 58% Yes 42% No. I can see why you would want to ignore those polls. If one keeps repeating the scenario that negative effects on x,y and z are primarily due to Brexit then some people will start believing it. It seems that the information disseminators are largely in the control of those who prefer EU membership. It is like the BBC during the referendum where 'Brexit' was used as a punchline in many attempts at humour and for a period afterwards. If one instils negative connotations on something then many will have a negative view on it. We always thought there would be a concerted plan to pull us back into the fold in one way or another and slowly and surely they are drawing their plans against us. It certainly does. The promises of cuts in immigration and 1950's style sunlight uplands have never materialised so man people wanting those things now feel cheated. |
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Post by zanygame on Jan 10, 2024 19:22:01 GMT
Oh good you take notice of polls now? So what does it say. Unlike the remainers I take a lot of notice of the polls that matter... But polls are not to be trusted. Unless they say what you want to hear. |
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