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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Dec 17, 2023 7:52:48 GMT
This is why support for Reform is surging. Only 4 years ago he was an ex-Minister in a 'Conservative' government and standing for leadership of the Party. Now he is begging for a job in a Labour government.. Anyone who has voted Tory in the past 13 years has been conned. Proof, if any more were needed, that they are all exactly the same.
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Post by jonksy on Dec 17, 2023 8:11:08 GMT
Sunak faces Tory rebellion over ‘plan to stitch up’ candidate selection. Sunak is facing a revolt from the Right of his party over alleged plans to impose shortlists of parliamentary candidates on Tory associations. More than 40 MPs, including Liz Truss, Suella Braverman, Sir John Hayes, and Jonathan Gullis, have written to the Prime Minister urging Mr Sunak to stop an attempt to impose a “shortened” selection process for prospective MPs.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2023 18:57:45 GMT
Reform UK have about as much chance of forming the next government as the Monster Raving Loony Party, its not even worth debating. There is only one possible contender as an alternative to the chaos of the Tory government, and most voters know it. And that very fact betrays a larger problem - how limited our choices actually are in our pitiful excuse for a democracy. Most people live in seats so safe that voting itself is literally a waste of time and for them changes nothing. If one set of establishmentarian stooges is the only alternative to another set of establishmentarian stooges, democracy itself in this country is a total sham. I do though promise you something. However much it is guaranteed to be a wasted vote, neither will be getting my vote.
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Dec 19, 2023 19:31:04 GMT
Reform UK have about as much chance of forming the next government as the Monster Raving Loony Party, its not even worth debating. There is only one possible contender as an alternative to the chaos of the Tory government, and most voters know it. And that very fact betrays a larger problem - how limited our choices actually are in our pitiful excuse for a democracy. Most people live in seats so safe that voting itself is literally a waste of time and for them changes nothing. If one set of establishmentarian stooges is the only alternative to another set of establishmentarian stooges, democracy itself in this country is a total sham. I do though promise you something. However much it is guaranteed to be a wasted vote, neither will be getting my vote. Is the right answer.
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Post by borchester on Dec 20, 2023 0:38:11 GMT
I does not matter. Currently the Tories have 24% of the votes and Reform 10%, which makes a total of 34%.
Meanwhile Labour has 42%.
So if an election were held today the Tories and their allies would still get their dials wiped
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Post by see2 on Dec 20, 2023 9:17:49 GMT
This is why support for Reform is surging. Only 4 years ago he was an ex-Minister in a 'Conservative' government and standing for leadership of the Party. Now he is begging for a job in a Labour government.. Anyone who has voted Tory in the past 13 years has been conned. Proof, if any more were needed, that they are all exactly the same. Wrong, exposing your over simplistic Senile approach to politics.
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Post by jonksy on Dec 22, 2023 13:35:41 GMT
'Nigel Farage mania' set to dominate 2024 as new poll gives Reform UK its highest rating.
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Dec 22, 2023 14:59:55 GMT
I does not matter. Currently the Tories have 24% of the votes and Reform 10%, which makes a total of 34%.
Meanwhile Labour has 42%.
So if an election were held today the Tories and their allies would still get their dials wiped
So the establishment has 66% of the vote. And there's our problem.
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Post by jonksy on Dec 24, 2023 21:39:39 GMT
Nigel Farage’s Reform UK vows to fight the Tories in every seat at next year’s general election.
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Post by Einhorn on Dec 24, 2023 21:45:34 GMT
Nigel Farage’s Reform UK vows to fight the Tories in every seat at next year’s general election.
Divide and Conquer! Vote Reform!!!! You can give Labour their biggest majority ever, Nigel. We believe in you!
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Post by Pacifico on Dec 24, 2023 22:06:35 GMT
Labour already have their biggest majority ever...
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Post by Deleted on Dec 25, 2023 9:41:26 GMT
"Tory voters are deserting to Reform UK - not Labour"
That's a relief.
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Post by sheepy on Dec 25, 2023 9:53:23 GMT
"Tory voters are deserting to Reform UK - not Labour" That's a relief. I somehow doubt that labour HQ think that.
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Post by jonksy on Dec 25, 2023 18:32:20 GMT
"Tory voters are deserting to Reform UK - not Labour" That's a relief. I somehow doubt that labour HQ think that.
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Post by see2 on Dec 25, 2023 22:33:31 GMT
And that very fact betrays a larger problem - how limited our choices actually are in our pitiful excuse for a democracy. Most people live in seats so safe that voting itself is literally a waste of time and for them changes nothing. If one set of establishmentarian stooges is the only alternative to another set of establishmentarian stooges, democracy itself in this country is a total sham. I do though promise you something. However much it is guaranteed to be a wasted vote, neither will be getting my vote. Is the right answer. Only fools will support any party out of spite for another.
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