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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2023 15:49:22 GMT
How so, I have always supported the police, who in the main do an excellent job. They have made a decision based on their best evidence but our home secretary is undermining them. This sort of thing is common in 3rd world countries. I'm sure that you believe that.
Meanwhile many on the left pursue a narrative that the police are institutionally racist and corrupt.
Based on a report by Baroness Louise Casey. I think left and right acknowledge there is a problem in the police but please just credit the left, if you must. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2023 15:50:10 GMT
That was the conclusion of a year long investigation leading to a conclusion which I daresay was much better informed than yours or mine. We saw it with our own eyes. Shame you didn't I'm not denying it, my intellectually challenged friends, I was reacting to this: Braverman is attempting to turn certain sections of the public against the police, very Trumpian. And pointing out that Braverman isn't the only one. Who else is? |
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Post by zanygame on Nov 9, 2023 15:52:20 GMT
No, its lies as being the cause of division and strife. Or to translate - "Disagreeing with me causes division and strife" My words required no translation. You just couldn't answer them. So as usual you made some up for me. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2023 15:52:29 GMT
Why was it turned in to a lefty point scoring agenda?
Sarah wasn't black, and neither was the copper, so why the hell was racism brought in to it, that was for a different day, a different inquiry, the opportunists jumped on the racist bandwagon, and using the murder of a innocent young girl to get a leg up on the political ladder, they have no shame.
If an investigation also revealed problems with homophobia and racism isn't that a good thing? The first step to fixing a problem is admitting that you have a problem. Fixing cultural problems in the Met will hopefully avoid another tragedy like the murder of Sarah Everard. Just stop recruiting white people into the police, which will end all racism. As for homophobia, whatever that means, that can be solved by labelling one of them as the opposite sex, which will make them a straight couple. |
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Post by happyhornet on Nov 9, 2023 15:56:31 GMT
If an investigation also revealed problems with homophobia and racism isn't that a good thing? The first step to fixing a problem is admitting that you have a problem. Fixing cultural problems in the Met will hopefully avoid another tragedy like the murder of Sarah Everard. Just stop recruiting white people into the police, which will end all racism. As for homophobia, whatever that means, that can be solved by labelling one of them as the opposite sex, which will make them a straight couple. Or one could be grown up about a problematic institution, a member of which abducted, raped and murdered an innocent woman. |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Nov 9, 2023 15:59:20 GMT
I'm not denying it, my intellectually challenged friends, I was reacting to this: And pointing out that Braverman isn't the only one. Who else is? Ooh, just basically every lefty race baiter. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2023 16:00:48 GMT
No white people = no racism. Iran likes to boast that they don't have homosexuals. They openly condemn and punish homosexuality (you may have seen them hanging from cranes), whilst the Left in this country are paid to appear on their state TV to bash Jews. Iran does, however, support gender reassignment surgery and will formally recognise them by their new gender. This is the only way gays can survive under the Marxist Theocracy.
No gays = no homophobia. |
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Post by happyhornet on Nov 9, 2023 16:05:58 GMT
No white people = no racism. Iran likes to boast that they don't have homosexuals. They openly condemn and punish homosexuality (you may have seen them hanging from cranes), whilst the Left in this country are paid to appear on their state TV to bash Jews. Iran does, however, support gender reassignment surgery and will formally recognise them by their new gender. This is the only way gays can survive under the Marxist Theocracy.
No gays = no homophobia. Ok........ |
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Post by Fairsociety on Nov 9, 2023 16:08:15 GMT
No white people = no racism. Iran likes to boast that they don't have homosexuals. They openly condemn and punish homosexuality (you may have seen them hanging from cranes), whilst the Left in this country are paid to appear on their state TV to bash Jews. Iran does, however, support gender reassignment surgery and will formally recognise them by their new gender. This is the only way gays can survive under the Marxist Theocracy.
No gays = no homophobia. A great many who are claiming asylum in the UK is because they claim they are fleeing their country for fear of persecution because they are 'gay'.
So why would the lefties accuse the UK of being homophobic, when the majority of asylum seekers are claiming asylum here because they will be 'safe', so in other words the UK is very tolerant of gay men?
The lefties just can't get it right, they can't call the UK racists or homophobic when every asylum seeker under the sun is saying ....... WE ARE NOT.
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Post by Orac on Nov 9, 2023 16:12:35 GMT
Why was it turned in to a lefty point scoring agenda?
Sarah wasn't black, and neither was the copper, so why the hell was racism brought in to it, that was for a different day, a different inquiry, the opportunists jumped on the racist bandwagon, and using the murder of a innocent young girl to get a leg up on the political ladder, they have no shame.
If an investigation also revealed problems with homophobia and racism isn't that a good thing? The first step to fixing a problem is admitting that you have a problem. Fixing cultural problems in the Met will hopefully avoid another tragedy like the murder of Sarah Everard. I don't think investigating a police force for political crimes is a good idea. This sort of thing happened in soviet Union and it didn't end well. If there is an actual act of misconduct, it should fit into another category. |
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Post by happyhornet on Nov 9, 2023 16:15:39 GMT
If an investigation also revealed problems with homophobia and racism isn't that a good thing? The first step to fixing a problem is admitting that you have a problem. Fixing cultural problems in the Met will hopefully avoid another tragedy like the murder of Sarah Everard. I don't think investigating a police force for political crimes is a good idea. This sort of thing happened in soviet Union and it didn't end well. If there is an actual act of misconduct, it should fit into another category. Since when was mysoginy, racism or homophobia political? |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2023 16:17:45 GMT
No white people = no racism. Iran likes to boast that they don't have homosexuals. They openly condemn and punish homosexuality (you may have seen them hanging from cranes), whilst the Left in this country are paid to appear on their state TV to bash Jews. Iran does, however, support gender reassignment surgery and will formally recognise them by their new gender. This is the only way gays can survive under the Marxist Theocracy.
No gays = no homophobia. A great many who are claiming asylum in the UK is because they claim they are fleeing their country for fear of persecution because they are 'gay'.
So why would the lefties accuse the UK of being homophobic, when the majority of asylum seekers are claiming asylum here because they will be 'safe', so in other words the UK is very tolerant of gay men?
The lefties just can't get it right, they can't call the UK racists or homophobic when every asylum seeker under the sun is saying ....... WE ARE NOT.
They don't address the complete picture and break everything down into groups. It's how Communism infiltrates the education system. The contraditions and hypocrisy are to be expected.
Science works in a similar way to understand the elements, but it's always wise to keep the bigger picture in mind, like how we understand that methods and variables are all parts of a singular program.
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Post by happyhornet on Nov 9, 2023 16:18:00 GMT
No white people = no racism. Iran likes to boast that they don't have homosexuals. They openly condemn and punish homosexuality (you may have seen them hanging from cranes), whilst the Left in this country are paid to appear on their state TV to bash Jews. Iran does, however, support gender reassignment surgery and will formally recognise them by their new gender. This is the only way gays can survive under the Marxist Theocracy.
No gays = no homophobia. A great many who are claiming asylum in the UK is because they claim they are fleeing their country for fear of persecution because they are 'gay'.
So why would the lefties accuse the UK of being homophobic, when the majority of asylum seekers are claiming asylum here because they will be 'safe', so in other words the UK is very tolerant of gay men?
The lefties just can't get it right, they can't call the UK racists or homophobic when every asylum seeker under the sun is saying ....... WE ARE NOT.
"In 2022, 2% of asylum claims in the UK (1,334 claims) included sexual orientation as part of the basis for the claim (LGB asylum applications)." www.gov.uk/government/statistics/immigration-system-statistics-year-ending-june-2023/asylum-claims-on-the-basis-of-sexual-orientation-2022There is no state persecution of gay people in the UK, that doesn't mean there can't be any societal or institutional homophobia. Being less homophobic than Iran is a pretty low bar, I have a bit more faith than you it seems that this country can and will aim higher. |
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Post by Orac on Nov 9, 2023 16:19:52 GMT
I don't think investigating a police force for political crimes is a good idea. This sort of thing happened in soviet Union and it didn't end well. If there is an actual act of misconduct, it should fit into another category. Since when was mysoginy, racism or homophobia political? Of course they are political (a matter of a political opinion). You and i (for instance) are not going to agree on what constitutes racism or what constitutes important racism - and what 'racism' is the public's business and what is not. Entirely Political The point I made is that, if it actually amounts to misconduct, it will fall into another (non-political) category. |
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Post by Fairsociety on Nov 9, 2023 16:22:42 GMT
A great many who are claiming asylum in the UK is because they claim they are fleeing their country for fear of persecution because they are 'gay'.
So why would the lefties accuse the UK of being homophobic, when the majority of asylum seekers are claiming asylum here because they will be 'safe', so in other words the UK is very tolerant of gay men?
The lefties just can't get it right, they can't call the UK racists or homophobic when every asylum seeker under the sun is saying ....... WE ARE NOT.
There is no state persecution of gay people in the UK, that doesn't mean there can't be any societal or institutional homophobia. "In 2022, 2% of asylum claims in the UK (1,334 claims) included sexual orientation as part of the basis for the claim (LGB asylum applications)." www.gov.uk/government/statistics/immigration-system-statistics-year-ending-june-2023/asylum-claims-on-the-basis-of-sexual-orientation-2022Being less homophobic than Iran is a pretty low bar, I have a bit more faith than you it seems that this country can and will aim higher.Yeah, with racists bashing up poppy sellers, your bar is lower than a snakes belly. |
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