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Post by Fairsociety on Nov 9, 2023 14:50:36 GMT
It doesn't make sense why the police are 'clearly' taking sides, why would they choose to let a bunch of Hamas sympathizers openly go about their protests waving their flags, spouting their hatred, openly attacking police and any objectors, where are the families of these police officers to remind them that no doubt their family members fought in WW1 - WW2, why aren't these families giving these coppers a clip round the earhole for allowing this disrespect. It reflects the same management hijacking seen in many of our institutions - they use some bogus ethical or procedural cause to smuggle in a stream shitty, incompetent perverts and then those plants use their influence to hire more of the same and hobble normal people trying to do their job. Bit by bit the institution itself becomes detached from reality and unable to internally rectify the situation. Systematically our Civil Service and Public Sector have been infiltrated by the far-left, it's as plain as day they blatantly ignore any orders from the Tories, the banks are the same, it's happened in plain sight, the police are now under control of the lefties, having said that this lame government have the powers to pull rank and declare a state of emergency and draft in the army to deal with it, but it's becoming clear they are a bunch of shithouses.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2023 14:54:43 GMT
I watched a video of two coppers telling old soldiers to take their Union Jack flags away from a barrier . They complained that coppers were letting protestors wave Palestinian flags . The copper just shrugged and said ‘ that weren’t me ‘. The police are openly more bias towards the protesters. Well done Braverman for pointing this out . It doesn't make sense why the police are 'clearly' taking sides, why would they choose to let a bunch of Hamas sympathizers openly go about their protests waving their flags, spouting their hatred, openly attacking police and any objectors, where are the families of these police officers to remind them that no doubt their family members fought in WW1 - WW2, why aren't these families giving these coppers a clip round the earhole for allowing this disrespect. Are they taking sides though? The protests are calling for a ceasefire in Gaza, a protest for a ceasefire on the anniversary of a ceasefire sounds like sense. It is true, unfortunately, that some are against a ceasefire and they would rathe Israel slaughter as many Palestinians they can, there are already 4000+ children dead and over a thousand under the rubble of their homes. It is the polices job to assess the risk of any demonstration whether we like it or not and they should not be influenced by a, clearly, partisan government. This country is supporting the murder of children.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2023 14:57:11 GMT
Braverman is attempting to turn certain sections of the public against the police, very Trumpian. That's ironic, coming from a lefty. How so, I have always supported the police, who in the main do an excellent job. They have made a decision based on their best evidence but our home secretary is undermining them. This sort of thing is common in 3rd world countries.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2023 15:02:28 GMT
It reflects the same management hijacking seen in many of our institutions - they use some bogus ethical or procedural cause to smuggle in a stream shitty, incompetent perverts and then those plants use their influence to hire more of the same and hobble normal people trying to do their job. Bit by bit the institution itself becomes detached from reality and unable to internally rectify the situation. Systematically our Civil Service and Public Sector have been infiltrated by the far-left, it's as plain as day they blatantly ignore any orders from the Tories, the banks are the same, it's happened in plain sight, the police are now under control of the lefties, having said that this lame government have the powers to pull rank and declare a state of emergency and draft in the army to deal with it, but it's becoming clear they are a bunch of shithouses. Another ridiculous point. If as you say the civil service had " latantly ignore any orders from the Tories", we would never had austerity, we would not have had a banking crash, we would not be spending billions on hotels for asylum seekers, we would not have a small boats problem - for none of these things happened before the Tories got into power. You use of the word "blatantly ignore any orders from the Tories", is a very telling assessment of what you think a government should be.
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Post by happyhornet on Nov 9, 2023 15:05:57 GMT
It reflects the same management hijacking seen in many of our institutions - they use some bogus ethical or procedural cause to smuggle in a stream shitty, incompetent perverts and then those plants use their influence to hire more of the same and hobble normal people trying to do their job. Bit by bit the institution itself becomes detached from reality and unable to internally rectify the situation. Systematically our Civil Service and Public Sector have been infiltrated by the far-left, it's as plain as day they blatantly ignore any orders from the Tories, the banks are the same, it's happened in plain sight, the police are now under control of the lefties, having said that this lame government have the powers to pull rank and declare a state of emergency and draft in the army to deal with it, but it's becoming clear they are a bunch of shithouses. Yeah the Met police seemed really lefty in their handling of the Sarah Everard vigil. Then there's this: "The Metropolitan Police is institutionally racist, sexist and homophobic and may have more officers like killer Wayne Couzens and serial rapist David Carrick, a damning report has found." news.sky.com/story/metropolitan-police-is-institutionally-racist-sexist-and-homophobic-and-may-have-more-officers-like-couzens-and-carrick-review-finds-12838717
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Nov 9, 2023 15:06:49 GMT
That's ironic, coming from a lefty. How so, I have always supported the police, who in the main do an excellent job. They have made a decision based on their best evidence but our home secretary is undermining them. This sort of thing is common in 3rd world countries. I'm sure that you believe that.
Meanwhile many on the left pursue a narrative that the police are institutionally racist and corrupt.
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Nov 9, 2023 15:08:01 GMT
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Post by happyhornet on Nov 9, 2023 15:13:34 GMT
That was the conclusion of a year long investigation leading to a conclusion which I daresay was much better informed than yours or mine.
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Post by zanygame on Nov 9, 2023 15:13:46 GMT
We saw it with our own eyes. Shame you didn't
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Post by Fairsociety on Nov 9, 2023 15:28:15 GMT
Systematically our Civil Service and Public Sector have been infiltrated by the far-left, it's as plain as day they blatantly ignore any orders from the Tories, the banks are the same, it's happened in plain sight, the police are now under control of the lefties, having said that this lame government have the powers to pull rank and declare a state of emergency and draft in the army to deal with it, but it's becoming clear they are a bunch of shithouses. Yeah the Met police seemed really lefty in their handling of the Sarah Everard vigil. Then there's this: "The Metropolitan Police is institutionally racist, sexist and homophobic and may have more officers like killer Wayne Couzens and serial rapist David Carrick, a damning report has found." news.sky.com/story/metropolitan-police-is-institutionally-racist-sexist-and-homophobic-and-may-have-more-officers-like-couzens-and-carrick-review-finds-12838717Forgive me if I have no faith in inquiries, after witnessing the Kangaroo court of Johnson, and the Beergate cover up of Starmers illegal breaching lockdown rules knees-up. What did racist, sexist, homophobic have to do with a murdering copper? Why was it even mentioned?
The investigation was to do with why police aren't vetted properly for any sexual complaints against them, or do they have criminal records, the fact the lefties hijacked it for their own agenda, was just disrespectful for the Everard family, yet again the left trying to score political points by using the murder of poor innocent girl, they really do exploit misery to gain votes.
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Nov 9, 2023 15:34:02 GMT
That was the conclusion of a year long investigation leading to a conclusion which I daresay was much better informed than yours or mine. We saw it with our own eyes. Shame you didn't I'm not denying it, my intellectually challenged friends, I was reacting to this: Braverman is attempting to turn certain sections of the public against the police, very Trumpian. And pointing out that Braverman isn't the only one.
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Post by happyhornet on Nov 9, 2023 15:37:37 GMT
Forgive me if I have no faith in inquiries, after witnessing the Kangaroo court of Johnson, and the Beergate cover up of Starmers illegal breaching lockdown rules knees-up. What did racist, sexist, homophobic have to do with a murdering copper? Why was it even mentioned?
The investigation was to do with why police aren't vetted properly for any sexual complaints against them, or do they have criminal records, the fact the lefties hijacked it for their own agenda, was just disrespectful for the Everard family, yet again the left trying to score political points by using the murder of poor innocent girl, they really do exploit misery to gain votes.
So basically you have no faith in any investigation that leads to a conclusion you don't like? "What did racist, sexist, homophobic have to do with a murdering copper?" A culture of mysoginy lead to several red flags being missed on a rapist, murdering copper.
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Post by Vinny on Nov 9, 2023 15:42:35 GMT
Vinny .... The catalyst for the creation of the EDL was a small group of Islamist extremists who shouted insults and obscenities at a parade of returning soldiers of the Anglian Regiment, quite a few years ago somewhere in the Midlands, the place I cannot remember. The point is that those extremists did not represent the views of most Muslims, just the same as the EDL do not represent the views of most "English" or "British" people of whichever faith. Some people hold extreme views, most people do not - Some people are ignorant, like for example those Islamists who once burnt poppies, I would love to show those idiots the many V.C s won by Muslim soldiers fighting for this country in two world wars, or to take them to one of many Commonwealth War Grave cemetaries to show them the rows of Muslim grave stones. How many extremists did it take to murder 22 concert goers at the Manchester arena in 2017? 1. How many extremists did it take to murder 11 people on London Bridge in 2017? 3. How many extremists did it take to murder 52 people on London public transport on the 7th July 2005? 4. How many extremists did it take to murder 2997 people on the 11th September 2001? 19. How many extremists did it take to groom and rape teenagers in Rotherham and Rochdale? How many extremists are there in Gaza? How many extremists took part in Boko Haram's kidnapping of schoolgirls 9 years ago? 90 of those girls are still missing from their families. How many extremists does it take to get lefties to sit up and realise there is a problem of Islamist extremists which needs speaking out against?
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Post by Fairsociety on Nov 9, 2023 15:42:41 GMT
Forgive me if I have no faith in inquiries, after witnessing the Kangaroo court of Johnson, and the Beergate cover up of Starmers illegal breaching lockdown rules knees-up. What did racist, sexist, homophobic have to do with a murdering copper? Why was it even mentioned?
The investigation was to do with why police aren't vetted properly for any sexual complaints against them, or do they have criminal records, the fact the lefties hijacked it for their own agenda, was just disrespectful for the Everard family, yet again the left trying to score political points by using the murder of poor innocent girl, they really do exploit misery to gain votes.
So basically you have no faith in any investigation that leads to a conclusion you don't like? "What did racist, sexist, homophobic have to do with a murdering copper?" A culture of mysoginy lead to several red flags being missed on a rapist, murdering copper. Why was it turned in to a lefty point scoring agenda?
Sarah wasn't black, and neither was the copper, so why the hell was racism brought in to it, that was for a different day, a different inquiry, the opportunists jumped on the racist bandwagon, and using the murder of a innocent young girl to get a leg up on the political ladder, they have no shame.
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Post by happyhornet on Nov 9, 2023 15:47:26 GMT
So basically you have no faith in any investigation that leads to a conclusion you don't like? "What did racist, sexist, homophobic have to do with a murdering copper?" A culture of mysoginy lead to several red flags being missed on a rapist, murdering copper. Why was it turned in to a lefty point scoring agenda?
Sarah wasn't black, and neither was the copper, so why the hell was racism brought in to it, that was for a different day, a different inquiry, the opportunists jumped on the racist bandwagon, and using the murder of a innocent young girl to get a leg up on the political ladder, they have no shame.
If an investigation also revealed problems with homophobia and racism isn't that a good thing? The first step to fixing a problem is admitting that you have a problem. Fixing cultural problems in the Met will hopefully avoid another tragedy like the murder of Sarah Everard.
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