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Post by happyhornet on Nov 9, 2023 16:25:13 GMT
Since when was mysoginy, racism or homophobia political? Of course they are political (a matter of a political opinion). You and i (for instance) are not going to agree on what constitutes racism or what constitutes important racism - and what 'racism' is the public's business and what is not. Entirely Political The point I made is that, if it actually amounts to misconduct, it will fall into another (non-political) category. Not every disagreement is political. But if your definition is correct that would mean we couldn't investigate a police force for institutional mysoginy, essentially rolling out the welcome mat for the next Wayne Couzens. |
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Post by happyhornet on Nov 9, 2023 16:28:00 GMT
Yeah, with racists bashing up poppy sellers, your bar is lower than a snakes belly. Not sure what that has to do with homophobia or if the incident was racially motivated. "Poppy seller: Police probing attack claim find 'insufficient evidence'" www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-67363648 |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2023 16:28:40 GMT
Of course they are political (a matter of a political opinion). You and i (for instance) are not going to agree on what constitutes racism or what constitutes important racism - and what 'racism' is the public's business and what is not. Entirely Political The point I made is that, if it actually amounts to misconduct, it will fall into another (non-political) category. Not every disagreement is political. But if your definition is correct that would mean we couldn't investigate a police force for institutional mysoginy, essentially rolling out the welcome mat for the next Wayne Couzens. Islamic law relies on gender segregation, so the UK could adopt something similar for the police. Since we're also using the police as social workers a morality division could also be set up. |
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Post by Orac on Nov 9, 2023 16:31:26 GMT
Of course they are political (a matter of a political opinion). You and i (for instance) are not going to agree on what constitutes racism or what constitutes important racism - and what 'racism' is the public's business and what is not. Entirely Political The point I made is that, if it actually amounts to misconduct, it will fall into another (non-political) category. Not every disagreement is political. But if your definition is correct that would mean we couldn't investigate a police force for institutional mysoginy, essentially rolling out the welcome mat for the next Wayne Couzens. I don't think inventing and 'investigating' political crimes stops psychopaths. If anything, such inflexible horse-radish gives them a welcome boost. Psychopaths are good at learning and using baroque rules. The best defense against such people is an honest culture in which people can be straight-forward. |
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Post by Fairsociety on Nov 9, 2023 16:33:52 GMT
Yeah, with racists bashing up poppy sellers, your bar is lower than a snakes belly. Not sure what that has to do with homophobia or if the incident was racially motivated. "Poppy seller: Police probing attack claim find 'insufficient evidence'" www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-67363648
A TESCO shopper has been slammed for confronting a poppy seller and ranting about how "it's not acceptable" to sell them.
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Post by happyhornet on Nov 9, 2023 16:34:25 GMT
Not every disagreement is political. But if your definition is correct that would mean we couldn't investigate a police force for institutional mysoginy, essentially rolling out the welcome mat for the next Wayne Couzens. Islamic law relies on gender segregation, so the UK could adopt something similar for the police. Since we're also using the police as social workers a morality division could also be set up. Nobody is advocating gender separation. I'm advocating reforms to police culture and internal operations to prevent another tragedy like Sarah Everard. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2023 16:34:30 GMT
No I would not The EDL are a far right organisation of whom THE MAJORITY of its followers have extremist, racist views, and everywhere they went ( usually in areas with high Muslim populations ), they caused trouble, violence, vandalism and hatred. For what possible reason would the EDL want to march for ? .... other than as a provocation Just like Hamas then. But Hamas are not proposing to march in London are they ? |
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Post by happyhornet on Nov 9, 2023 16:35:42 GMT
Not every disagreement is political. But if your definition is correct that would mean we couldn't investigate a police force for institutional mysoginy, essentially rolling out the welcome mat for the next Wayne Couzens. I don't thinking inventing and 'investigating' political crimes stops psychopaths. If anything, such inflexible horse-radish gives them a welcome boost. Psychopaths are good at learning and using baroque rules. The best defense against such people is an honest culture in which people can be straight-forward. You think a zero tolerance policy towards mysoginy would have given Wayne Couzens a "welcome boost"? |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2023 16:35:50 GMT
Ooh, just basically every lefty race baiter. Example? |
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Post by happyhornet on Nov 9, 2023 16:39:31 GMT
A TESCO shopper has been slammed for confronting a poppy seller and ranting about how "it's not acceptable" to sell them.
That's awful, she seems to be reading an awful lot into someone simply doing a good deed. |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Nov 9, 2023 16:42:18 GMT
But Hamas are not proposing to march in London are they ? Not overtly, but their sympathisers are. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2023 16:43:55 GMT
I see now reading this afternoons news, that Braverman HAS acted outside of the Ministerial Code in publishing her hate filled statement without making ammendments which apparently the Prime Minister demanded.
However, the weak, wish washy Sunak has not got the guts to sack her, he's spineless.
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Post by Orac on Nov 9, 2023 16:44:26 GMT
I don't thinking inventing and 'investigating' political crimes stops psychopaths. If anything, such inflexible horse-radish gives them a welcome boost. Psychopaths are good at learning and using baroque rules. The best defense against such people is an honest culture in which people can be straight-forward. You think a zero tolerance policy towards mysoginy would have given Wayne Couzens a "welcome boost"? Yes possibly - or some other psychopath. No culture has completely reliable defences in this respect, but worst defence is an overly official, alienated, inorganic culture in which people dare not use their common sense. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2023 16:44:30 GMT
Not every disagreement is political. But if your definition is correct that would mean we couldn't investigate a police force for institutional mysoginy, essentially rolling out the welcome mat for the next Wayne Couzens. I don't thinking inventing and 'investigating' political crimes stops psychopaths. If anything, such inflexible horse-radish gives them a welcome boost. Psychopaths are good at learning and using baroque rules. The best defense against such people is an honest culture in which people can be straight-forward.Simpler times that allows individuals to function as grown ups. The tyranny of insane laws and bureaucracy, which will most likely lead to the absolute authoritarian utopia of nutjobs, requires people to be treated as children from cradle to grave. |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Nov 9, 2023 16:45:41 GMT
Ooh, just basically every lefty race baiter. Example?
Ok, Wonky Donks...
And there's many, many more but you can do your own Googling.
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