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Post by sheepy on Nov 9, 2023 8:47:06 GMT
Does it well we shall see what happens this time after the blood letting is over. I think , whatever happens, it's clear that what you are presenting is pretty artificial. You mean I won't get drawn in, nothing new, you will get used to it. Flag waving is for amateurs. |
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Post by Orac on Nov 9, 2023 9:00:57 GMT
I think , whatever happens, it's clear that what you are presenting is pretty artificial. You mean I won't get drawn in, nothing new, you will get used to it. Flag waving is for amateurs. I'm not using flags. It seems to me the obvious proximate lesson drawn from a bunch of scrotums climbing over your wall and burning people in cars is that your security is insufficient. |
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Post by dappy on Nov 9, 2023 9:19:04 GMT
Just hours after Sunak attempted to take the heat out of the manufactured row, Braverman has sought to reignite the row by yet more inflammatory comments. Its an open challenge to the Prime Minister's authority and a blatant attempt to use fear and division and now conflict on the streets to climb the greasy pole. Is Sunak really so weak that he will not get rid of this woman?
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Post by Orac on Nov 9, 2023 9:26:09 GMT
It's funny how the left consider expressing any disagreement with them as being the cause of division and strife.
Many of these people seem to to have a large mental blind-spot.
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Post by sheepy on Nov 9, 2023 9:34:27 GMT
You mean I won't get drawn in, nothing new, you will get used to it. Flag waving is for amateurs. I'm not using flags. It seems to me the obvious proximate lesson drawn from a bunch of scrotums climbing over your wall and burning people in cars is that your security is insufficient. Take it from me I have seen every cleverly worded argument for flag waving going,it still doesn't changed the fact both sides have been badly led to the edge of Armageddon. |
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Post by zanygame on Nov 9, 2023 9:46:20 GMT
I think the wider picture is becoming much clearer, by siding with bad leaders is much more likely to get you killed than represented. But surely such an observation wouldn't be especially prompted by one side deciding to tie people in cars and burn them alive. It feels like an artificial (pre-arranged) insight to me. That rather depends what the other side do. If one side burn people in cars and the other side burn children in flats, which is better? |
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Post by zanygame on Nov 9, 2023 9:47:50 GMT
It's funny how the left consider expressing any disagreement with them as being the cause of division and strife. Many of these people seem to to have a large mental blind-spot. No, its lies as being the cause of division and strife. Always has been. |
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Post by Bentley on Nov 9, 2023 9:52:04 GMT
Israeli soldiers were not hiding behind the civilians that Hamas murdered.
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Nov 9, 2023 10:04:28 GMT
It's funny how the left consider expressing any disagreement with them as being the cause of division and strife. Many of these people seem to to have a large mental blind-spot. No, its lies as being the cause of division and strife. Always has been. Stop telling them then. |
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Post by Orac on Nov 9, 2023 10:04:48 GMT
It's funny how the left consider expressing any disagreement with them as being the cause of division and strife. Many of these people seem to to have a large mental blind-spot. No, its lies as being the cause of division and strife. Always has been. But this has been covered before. Inadvertent collateral damage is not morally the same as setting out to target people in such a way. ....or, it isn't usually considered as such. Tell me, do you only employ this bizarre equivalence in this particular case or do you consider much of the UK's efforts against the Nazis to be also serial killer type criminality? |
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Post by Orac on Nov 9, 2023 10:08:41 GMT
It's funny how the left consider expressing any disagreement with them as being the cause of division and strife. Many of these people seem to to have a large mental blind-spot. No, its lies as being the cause of division and strife. Or to translate - "Disagreeing with me causes division and strife" |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2023 10:30:14 GMT
The precise word for what Braverman is attempting to do is SUPPRESION
Its not the pro peace rally participants who are "anti British" or "unpatriotic", it is Suella Braverman, because to ban a protest simply because you do not agree with them, or because you believe a large percentage are of "The Left" goes against every value and principle we hold in this country.
Now, she is causing further division by accusing the police of political bias, a claim she makes with absolutely no foundation or evidence what so ever ... she is utterly disgusting, a thoroughly evil woman who should be sacked.
I read this morning that Tory MPs are now furious, but by far the very best comment comes from Keir Starmer who made this VERY RELEVANT point "Rishi Sunak cannot be a serious Prime Minister with Braverman in office".
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Post by Bentley on Nov 9, 2023 10:34:56 GMT
The precise word for what Braverman is attempting to do is SUPPRESION Its not the pro peace rally participants who are "anti British" or "unpatriotic", it is Suella Braverman, because to ban a protest simply because you do not agree with them, or because you believe a large percentage are of "The Left" goes against every value and principle we hold in this country. Now, she is causing further division by accusing the police of political bias, a claim she makes with absolutely no foundation or evidence what so ever ... she is utterly disgusting, a thoroughly evil woman who should be sacked. I read this morning that Tory MPs are now furious, but by far the very best comment comes from Keir Starmer who made this VERY RELEVANT point "Rishi Sunak cannot be a serious Prime Minister with Braverman in office". When the ‘ pro peace ‘ participants demand that Hamas release the hostages , stop hiding behind human shields and that the terrorists responsible for the murders of Israeli civilians give themselves up then come back. Until then ..pull the other one … |
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Post by Orac on Nov 9, 2023 10:50:14 GMT
Everyone thinks their side is the side of peace. Some are unable to see this
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Post by Orac on Nov 9, 2023 10:52:49 GMT
The precise word for what Braverman is attempting to do is SUPPRESION Its not the pro peace rally participants who are "anti British" or "unpatriotic", it is Suella Braverman, because to ban a protest simply because you do not agree with them, You would then be in favour of the proposed EDL march being allowed? |
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