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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Nov 8, 2023 18:23:32 GMT
Would be the obvious answer.
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Post by jonksy on Nov 8, 2023 18:33:49 GMT
The Hamas have killed many rr. Not just a few. If you feel so strong about it why are you not out there fighting with the Hamas? Errr! because I do not support Hamas. The only thing you support are vitual signallers from the left. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2023 21:41:23 GMT
 Suella Braverman created and manufactured a problem where there was no problem, because there is no reason what so ever why a march for peace and a ceasefire in Gaza cannot take place on Saturday the 11th November. She created the non-existent problem to fire a shot in the Culture Wars, with a crude attempt to portray the marchers as nasty pro-Hamas lefties, who are unpatriotic. She is playing a very dangerous game in hoping to inflame or ignite a reaction from Tommy Robinson types. The fact is that until she, and Sunak mentioned that the march was taking place on Armistice Day, hardly anyone would have given it a second thought - It is THEY who have stressed the fact, and highlighted it, deliberately making it an issue. All of the previous marches have passed off largely peacefull, with very few arrests considering the numbers who have taken part. If there are counter protests this weekend, or any trouble or violence caused by confrontation, the blame will lie fairly and 100% at the feet of the government. |
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Post by om15 on Nov 8, 2023 21:47:26 GMT
They weren't peaceful, and the reason there were few arrests was down to the Police ducking their duties.
We will see if they are so understanding with other peaceful groups on Sunday. I don't see how you can blame the Government for the Mayor and the Met Police letting this happen. The PM has expressed his doubts but Rowley has assured him there will be no problems. We'll see.
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Post by Bentley on Nov 8, 2023 23:38:06 GMT
View Attachment Suella Braverman created and manufactured a problem where there was no problem, because there is no reason what so ever why a march for peace and a ceasefire in Gaza cannot take place on Saturday the 11th November. She created the non-existent problem to fire a shot in the Culture Wars, with a crude attempt to portray the marchers as nasty pro-Hamas lefties, who are unpatriotic. She is playing a very dangerous game in hoping to inflame or ignite a reaction from Tommy Robinson types. The fact is that until she, and Sunak mentioned that the march was taking place on Armistice Day, hardly anyone would have given it a second thought - It is THEY who have stressed the fact, and highlighted it, deliberately making it an issue. All of the previous marches have passed off largely peacefull, with very few arrests considering the numbers who have taken part. If there are counter protests this weekend, or any trouble or violence caused by confrontation, the blame will lie fairly and 100% at the feet of the government. Yes . The fact that the pro Hamas march was happening on 11th November would have gone unnoticed by the great unwashed had the uppity Asians not pointed it out . Leftie bigotry at its best . 😁 |
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Post by Red Rackham on Nov 9, 2023 0:04:43 GMT
View Attachment Suella Braverman created and manufactured a problem where there was no problem, because there is no reason what so ever why a march for peace and a ceasefire in Gaza cannot take place on Saturday the 11th November. She created the non-existent problem to fire a shot in the Culture Wars, with a crude attempt to portray the marchers as nasty pro-Hamas lefties, who are unpatriotic. She is playing a very dangerous game in hoping to inflame or ignite a reaction from Tommy Robinson types. The fact is that until she, and Sunak mentioned that the march was taking place on Armistice Day, hardly anyone would have given it a second thought - It is THEY who have stressed the fact, and highlighted it, deliberately making it an issue. All of the previous marches have passed off largely peacefull, with very few arrests considering the numbers who have taken part. If there are counter protests this weekend, or any trouble or violence caused by confrontation, the blame will lie fairly and 100% at the feet of the government. Yes . The fact that the pro Hamas march was happening on 11th November would have gone unnoticed by the great unwashed had the uppity Asians not pointed it out . Leftie bigotry at its best . 😁 Yes indeed, but it's not just uppity Asians (lol) is it. It's clueless kids who thanks to a left wing education syllabus know nothing about their own history other than it's all bad and they should be ashamed of being white and English. The result is outraged lefties marching with Muslims in support of Hamas. |
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Post by zanygame on Nov 9, 2023 7:30:31 GMT
Yes . The fact that the pro Hamas march was happening on 11th November would have gone unnoticed by the great unwashed had the uppity Asians not pointed it out . Leftie bigotry at its best . 😁 Yes indeed, but it's not just uppity Asians (lol) is it. It's clueless kids who thanks to a left wing education syllabus know nothing about their own history other than it's all bad and they should be ashamed of being white and English. The result is outraged lefties marching with Muslims in support of Hamas. Actually, ignorant old men thinking its Muslims marching in support of Hamas. Young people being taught that we should stand up for the weak against bullies. Well Mr Ex soldier... I think it was Wellington who said a soldiers job is to fight for those who cannot fight for themselves. As far as I know he didn't add unless they weren't Christian. Israel is killing Palestinians on mass to get to Hamas. The world knows this, the Americans Know this, The EU know this. Its just you old farts and Braverman who remain ignorant. |
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Post by sheepy on Nov 9, 2023 7:33:40 GMT
Yes indeed, but it's not just uppity Asians (lol) is it. It's clueless kids who thanks to a left wing education syllabus know nothing about their own history other than it's all bad and they should be ashamed of being white and English. The result is outraged lefties marching with Muslims in support of Hamas. Actually, ignorant old men thinking its Muslims marching in support of Hamas. Young people being taught that we should stand up for the weak against bullies. Well Mr Ex soldier... I think it was Wellington who said a soldiers job is to fight for those who cannot fight for themselves. As far as I know he didn't add unless they weren't Christian. Israel is killing Palestinians on mass to get to Hamas. The world knows this, the Americans Know this, The EU know this. Its just you old farts and Braverman who remain ignorant. Well actually the fastest growing opinion, is that people feel for both sides of this conflict, both have been badly led and a lot of people are dying over it. |
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Post by zanygame on Nov 9, 2023 7:39:45 GMT
Actually, ignorant old men thinking its Muslims marching in support of Hamas. Young people being taught that we should stand up for the weak against bullies. Well Mr Ex soldier... I think it was Wellington who said a soldiers job is to fight for those who cannot fight for themselves. As far as I know he didn't add unless they weren't Christian. Israel is killing Palestinians on mass to get to Hamas. The world knows this, the Americans Know this, The EU know this. Its just you old farts and Braverman who remain ignorant. Well actually the fastest growing opinion, is that people feel feel for both sides of this conflict, both have been badly led and a lot of people are dying over it. Yes of course. Israeli's are suffering in this forever war. But those marching in support of Palestine should have the right to do so. But the world is awake to Israel's behaviour, not just during this current months conflict, but in the years that lead up to it. I think the excuse of being Jews and having been persecuted is now wearing very thin. |
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Post by sheepy on Nov 9, 2023 7:52:19 GMT
Well actually the fastest growing opinion, is that people feel feel for both sides of this conflict, both have been badly led and a lot of people are dying over it. Yes of course. Israeli's are suffering in this forever war. But those marching in support of Palestine should have the right to do so. But the world is awake to Israel's behaviour, not just during this current months conflict, but in the years that lead up to it. I think the excuse of being Jews and having been persecuted is now wearing very thin. As I have already said the fastest growing opinion is for the suffering of ordinary people caught in the middle of a battle by bad leadership. Being Jewish or Palestinian is just the outcome. The right to march in a peaceful fashion and show you won't have it in your name was won after much the same situation, millions upon millions were slaughtered first. |
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Post by Orac on Nov 9, 2023 8:25:38 GMT
Actually, ignorant old men thinking its Muslims marching in support of Hamas. Young people being taught that we should stand up for the weak against bullies. Well Mr Ex soldier... I think it was Wellington who said a soldiers job is to fight for those who cannot fight for themselves. As far as I know he didn't add unless they weren't Christian. Israel is killing Palestinians on mass to get to Hamas. The world knows this, the Americans Know this, The EU know this. Its just you old farts and Braverman who remain ignorant. Well actually the fastest growing opinion, is that people feel for both sides of this conflict, both have been badly led and a lot of people are dying over it. A bit of an odd opinion to draw simply from one side deciding to tie people in cars and burn them alive. |
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Post by sheepy on Nov 9, 2023 8:29:23 GMT
Well actually the fastest growing opinion, is that people feel for both sides of this conflict, both have been badly led and a lot of people are dying over it. A bit of an odd opinion to draw simply from one side deciding to tie people in cars and burn them alive. I think the wider picture is becoming much clearer, by siding with bad leaders is much more likely to get you killed than represented. |
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Post by Orac on Nov 9, 2023 8:36:00 GMT
A bit of an odd opinion to draw simply from one side deciding to tie people in cars and burn them alive. I think the wider picture is becoming much clearer, by siding with bad leaders is much more likely to get you killed than represented. But surely such an observation wouldn't be especially prompted by one side deciding to tie people in cars and burn them alive. It feels like an artificial (pre-arranged) insight to me. |
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Post by sheepy on Nov 9, 2023 8:43:46 GMT
I think the wider picture is becoming much clearer, by siding with bad leaders is much more likely to get you killed than represented. But surely such an observation wouldn't be especially prompted by one side deciding to tie people in cars and burn them alive. It feels like an artificial (pre-arranged) insight to me. Does it well we shall see what happens this time after the blood letting is over. |
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Post by Orac on Nov 9, 2023 8:45:03 GMT
But surely such an observation wouldn't be especially prompted by one side deciding to tie people in cars and burn them alive. It feels like an artificial (pre-arranged) insight to me. Does it well we shall see what happens this time after the blood letting is over. I think , whatever happens, it's clear that what you are presenting is pretty artificial. |
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