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Post by om15 on Oct 28, 2023 16:19:29 GMT
It depends what GB News is aspiring to be, if it just wants to be an edgy right wing protest station with a minority following it would be a shame, it has the opportunity to join the top league if it raises the game and gives professional coverage which would then attract a wider audience.
Over on Talk TV I enjoy Kevin O Sullivan and Mike Graham, but would never endure Piers Morgan, I am selective, if GB News wants success it needs to get more people to be interested, Boris may well be a good comedy act, but most people will be fed up with his bollocks, much of our present ills stems from him not doing his job as PM, so he is hardly in a good position to comment on those doing the job now.
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Post by see2 on Oct 28, 2023 19:33:24 GMT
Johnson is a lefty, whats he doing on GB news? He okayed net zero etc. He's more of a centrist. I believe he dabbled with the left when he was young, but like most people with more than two braincells he quickly discovered their shameless hypocrisy, double standards, insanity and hate so found a new home. Your post is a good example of the right-wings main political strength i.e. the 'art' of denigration, insults and insinuations in place of reasoned debate. |
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Post by see2 on Oct 28, 2023 19:39:38 GMT
He's probably more socially liberal than most of his cabinet, grant you that, but he allowed them to drag him to the right, hence why we get a lot of very mixed messaging but noone wants. As for Piglet's statement that he was a "Leftie"® because he believes in net zero, that's the kind of vacant binary thinking that pervades this forum unfortunately. Remember Alok Sharma, who I'm not particularly a fan of, had the good grace to resign when our commitments were watered down. Noone is going to describe him as a "Leftie". Net zero is not a left / right issue the same as Brexit never was. Only if you believe that the case for Net Zero is both compelling and extremely urgent . As for Brexit . Has the ex remainer position changed from the remainer position that brexiters were old , racist , right wingers ? Net zero was introduced by the Tories. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2023 19:51:01 GMT
It depends what GB News is aspiring to be, if it just wants to be an edgy right wing protest station with a minority following it would be a shame, it has the opportunity to join the top league if it raises the game and gives professional coverage which would then attract a wider audience. Over on Talk TV I enjoy Kevin O Sullivan and Mike Graham, but would never endure Piers Morgan, I am selective, if GB News wants success it needs to get more people to be interested, Boris may well be a good comedy act, but most people will be fed up with his bollocks, much of our present ills stems from him not doing his job as PM, so he is hardly in a good position to comment on those doing the job now. It'll create interest and I doubt he'll be on it for long. He's going to be peddling a lot of Tory bollocks. There maybe some good debates and an opportunity to pull it all apart. |
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Post by ratcliff on Oct 28, 2023 20:56:03 GMT
Johnson is a lefty, whats he doing on GB news? He okayed net zero etc. He's more of a centrist. I believe he dabbled with the left when he was young, but like most people with more than two braincells he quickly discovered their shameless hypocrisy, double standards, insanity and hate so found a new home. nah , he's a lefty a la Cleggy |
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Post by Bentley on Oct 28, 2023 20:58:26 GMT
Only if you believe that the case for Net Zero is both compelling and extremely urgent . As for Brexit . Has the ex remainer position changed from the remainer position that brexiters were old , racist , right wingers ? Net zero was introduced by the Tories. Which does nothing to refute , support or anything else to do with the post that you replied to. |
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Post by piglet on Oct 29, 2023 12:16:46 GMT
Johnson admitted to being a good listener to what people are expressing, then championing that, like Brexit, it was his tilt for the top. He is influenced by those around him, especially the last person he talked too, like his partner. He has vacancies when it comes to having beliefs. Johnson wrote paper articles for remaining in Europe.
When he was prime minister, hard work was foreign to him, lots got not done, he was more interested in social events, those around him had to be good. Hes good at containment, in psychiatry there are a lot of difficult moments, that being able to remain calm when all else is kicking off is priceless, it helps the staff and the patient that no matter how difficult things are, its copable with.
Like Brexit, he saw it as an oppurtunity while all others were gobsmacked, he was unfazed, believed in it, and enacted it. Hes a snake oil salesman, with beliefs to match, he will adopt a belief that suits. Look at all the lies over downing street parties. Its showbiz for him, the Tories can benefit from his performances if they can get him shooting at the enemy.
Anyway, Johnson is part of the red infiltration of the tories, like Cameron, his side kick, May, Tugenhadt etc. Would not trust Johnson....ever.
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Oct 29, 2023 13:19:26 GMT
Johnson admitted to being a good listener to what people are expressing, then championing that, like Brexit, it was his tilt for the top. He is influenced by those around him, especially the last person he talked too, like his partner. He has vacancies when it comes to having beliefs. Johnson wrote paper articles for remaining in Europe. When he was prime minister, hard work was foreign to him, lots got not done, he was more interested in social events, those around him had to be good. Hes good at containment, in psychiatry there are a lot of difficult moments, that being able to remain calm when all else is kicking off is priceless, it helps the staff and the patient that no matter how difficult things are, its copable with. Like Brexit, he saw it as an oppurtunity while all others were gobsmacked, he was unfazed, believed in it, and enacted it. Hes a snake oil salesman, with beliefs to match, he will adopt a belief that suits. Look at all the lies over downing street parties. Its showbiz for him, the Tories can benefit from his performances if they can get him shooting at the enemy. Anyway, Johnson is part of the red infiltration of the tories, like Cameron, his side kick, May, Tugenhadt etc. Would not trust Johnson....ever. He's a politician, and I wouldn't trust any of them.
Look at these imbeciles that want to vote for Starmer - who does a U Turn every bloody week. They have no idea what they're voting for.
Dickheads the lot of them. And so are the rest of us who keep voting for the same Punch & Judy show every five years.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2023 15:02:06 GMT
Johnson admitted to being a good listener to what people are expressing, then championing that, like Brexit, it was his tilt for the top. He is influenced by those around him, especially the last person he talked too, like his partner. He has vacancies when it comes to having beliefs. Johnson wrote paper articles for remaining in Europe. When he was prime minister, hard work was foreign to him, lots got not done, he was more interested in social events, those around him had to be good. Hes good at containment, in psychiatry there are a lot of difficult moments, that being able to remain calm when all else is kicking off is priceless, it helps the staff and the patient that no matter how difficult things are, its copable with. Like Brexit, he saw it as an oppurtunity while all others were gobsmacked, he was unfazed, believed in it, and enacted it. Hes a snake oil salesman, with beliefs to match, he will adopt a belief that suits. Look at all the lies over downing street parties. Its showbiz for him, the Tories can benefit from his performances if they can get him shooting at the enemy. Anyway, Johnson is part of the red infiltration of the tories, like Cameron, his side kick, May, Tugenhadt etc. Would not trust Johnson....ever. He's a politician, and I wouldn't trust any of them.
Look at these imbeciles that want to vote for Starmer - who does a U Turn every bloody week. They have no idea what they're voting for.
Dickheads the lot of them. And so are the rest of us who keep voting for the same Punch & Judy show every five years.
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Oct 29, 2023 16:22:32 GMT
He's a politician, and I wouldn't trust any of them.
Look at these imbeciles that want to vote for Starmer - who does a U Turn every bloody week. They have no idea what they're voting for.
Dickheads the lot of them. And so are the rest of us who keep voting for the same Punch & Judy show every five years.
What was the last Starmer U-turn? There you go, Wonky. Google is your friend:
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2023 17:46:24 GMT
What was the last Starmer U-turn? There you go, Wonky. Google is your friend:
As I thought you do not understand the 'idea' of a U-turn. None of what Greg Hands, a Conservative and why would they not call it U-turns, has pointed out is actually a U-turn when you consider Starmer is not in power and therefore can only make 'commitments' that he can U-turn on in his manifesto. People will look at labour and realise getting the country back in the black is a long term project and Labour will not be able to make the 'stupid' monetary decisions the Conservatives have. When you have a government as irresponsible as the Conservatives have been with our money, Starmer has had to be pragmatic and cut his cloth accordingly. You would be one of the first to call him out if he made promises he could not keep. |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Oct 29, 2023 18:25:48 GMT
When evidence is provided just move the goal posts. Wondrous, Wonky. Wondrous.
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Post by distant on Oct 31, 2023 0:29:58 GMT
What a stupid mistake by GBNews to sign up Bozo. They are probably going to get something they didn't bargain for. Don't they know that Bozo hates Sunak and will do all in his power to bring him down which will entail the Tories losing the coming election.
As for Bozo OKaying net zero, I think that was Carrie's influence.
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Post by Red Rackham on Oct 31, 2023 1:16:39 GMT
What a stupid mistake by GBNews to sign up Bozo. They are probably going to get something they didn't bargain for. Don't they know that Bozo hates Sunak and will do all in his power to bring him down which will entail the Tories losing the coming election.
As for Bozo OKaying net zero, I think that was Carrie's influence.
Not a chance, this is a massive coup for GB News. Boris is a globally recognised figure who connects with people. He has a personality that people like. Even his detractors, well some of them, say Boris is good company. He attracts people, he's earned an absolute fortune since leaving office because people want to listen to him. Of course, lefty Boris haters will always be lefty Boris haters, hey it's their problem. What really pisses off the outraged left who continually try to close down GB News is the fact that it goes from strength to strength. |
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Post by jonksy on Nov 1, 2023 9:28:02 GMT
I think that the only thing Boris Johnson believes in is Boris Johnson. I think the only thing Boris Johnson likes is Boris Johnson. I'm not sure he actually believes in himself too much, which was why he went out of his way to avoid scrutiny when he ran for Tory leadership and then went out of his way to avoid the scrutiny committee as PM. Boris got brexit done, did he not? And the usual left tenants hate the fact. |
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