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Post by happyhornet on Oct 28, 2023 10:11:52 GMT
LOL! My prediction: If Starmer's PM in 2025, Farage will be by 2030. And I'm seldom wrong. That's bold considering Farrage's electoral history. 7 failed attempts to win a seat in parliament including on one occasion losing to a bloke dressed as a dolphin. His popularity is a myth IMHO. |
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Post by happyhornet on Oct 28, 2023 11:41:22 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2023 11:43:48 GMT
Johnson is a lefty, whats he doing on GB news? He okayed net zero etc. He's more of a centrist. I believe he dabbled with the left when he was young, but like most people with more than two braincells he quickly discovered their shameless hypocrisy, double standards, insanity and hate so found a new home. |
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Post by andrewbrown on Oct 28, 2023 11:57:45 GMT
Johnson is a lefty, whats he doing on GB news? He okayed net zero etc. He's more of a centrist. I believe he dabbled with the left when he was young, but like most people with more than two braincells he quickly discovered their shameless hypocrisy, double standards, insanity and hate so found a new home. He's probably more socially liberal than most of his cabinet, grant you that, but he allowed them to drag him to the right, hence why we get a lot of very mixed messaging but noone wants. As for Piglet's statement that he was a "Leftie"® because he believes in net zero, that's the kind of vacant binary thinking that pervades this forum unfortunately. Remember Alok Sharma, who I'm not particularly a fan of, had the good grace to resign when our commitments were watered down. Noone is going to describe him as a "Leftie". Net zero is not a left / right issue the same as Brexit never was. |
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Post by happyhornet on Oct 28, 2023 12:04:52 GMT
He's more of a centrist. I believe he dabbled with the left when he was young, but like most people with more than two braincells he quickly discovered their shameless hypocrisy, double standards, insanity and hate so found a new home. He's probably more socially liberal than most of his cabinet, grant you that, but he allowed them to drag him to the right, hence why we get a lot of very mixed messaging but noone wants. As for Piglet's statement that he was a "Leftie"® because he believes in net zero, that's the kind of vacant binary thinking that pervades this forum unfortunately. Remember Alok Sharma, who I'm not particularly a fan of, had the good grace to resign when our commitments were watered down. Noone is going to describe him as a "Leftie". Net zero is not a left / right issue the same as Brexit never was. I think that the only thing Boris Johnson believes in is Boris Johnson. |
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Post by andrewbrown on Oct 28, 2023 12:34:37 GMT
He's probably more socially liberal than most of his cabinet, grant you that, but he allowed them to drag him to the right, hence why we get a lot of very mixed messaging but noone wants. As for Piglet's statement that he was a "Leftie"® because he believes in net zero, that's the kind of vacant binary thinking that pervades this forum unfortunately. Remember Alok Sharma, who I'm not particularly a fan of, had the good grace to resign when our commitments were watered down. Noone is going to describe him as a "Leftie". Net zero is not a left / right issue the same as Brexit never was. I think that the only thing Boris Johnson believes in is Boris Johnson. I think the only thing Boris Johnson likes is Boris Johnson. I'm not sure he actually believes in himself too much, which was why he went out of his way to avoid scrutiny when he ran for Tory leadership and then went out of his way to avoid the scrutiny committee as PM. |
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Post by Bentley on Oct 28, 2023 12:46:29 GMT
He's more of a centrist. I believe he dabbled with the left when he was young, but like most people with more than two braincells he quickly discovered their shameless hypocrisy, double standards, insanity and hate so found a new home. He's probably more socially liberal than most of his cabinet, grant you that, but he allowed them to drag him to the right, hence why we get a lot of very mixed messaging but noone wants. As for Piglet's statement that he was a "Leftie"® because he believes in net zero, that's the kind of vacant binary thinking that pervades this forum unfortunately. Remember Alok Sharma, who I'm not particularly a fan of, had the good grace to resign when our commitments were watered down. Noone is going to describe him as a "Leftie". Net zero is not a left / right issue the same as Brexit never was. Only if you believe that the case for Net Zero is both compelling and extremely urgent . As for Brexit . Has the ex remainer position changed from the remainer position that brexiters were old , racist , right wingers ? |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Oct 28, 2023 12:53:01 GMT
LOL! My prediction: If Starmer's PM in 2025, Farage will be by 2030. And I'm seldom wrong. That's bold considering Farrage's electoral history. 7 failed attempts to win a seat in parliament including on one occasion losing to a bloke dressed as a dolphin. His popularity is a myth IMHO. He failed under fptp because it's weighted against smaller parties.
Under PR, however, he was very popular.
As leader of the Tories, he'd win a landslide IMHO.
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Post by borchester on Oct 28, 2023 13:03:07 GMT
I think it reflects very well on Boris that he's willing to open himself up to public scrutiny like this. Do you not think we may have been better served if he'd been a little more open to the idea of public scrutiny when he was PM? Have you been living under a rock?
Johnson could not blow his nose without the left squealing about some bloody rubbish or other.
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Post by andrewbrown on Oct 28, 2023 13:21:35 GMT
Only if you believe that the case for Net Zero is both compelling and extremely urgent . Why does that make it a left right issue? Sorry, not following you. As for Brexit . Has the ex remainer position changed from the remainer position that brexiters were old , racist , right wingers ? As an ex remainer... Brexit voters were generally older. That's demonstrable fact, rather than generalisation. Were there a lot of xenophobes in there? Sure. That doesn't mean everyone was. As for the right wingers, demonstrably not true. It was the working class vote in the Midlands and the North that won Brexit. The Tory government, with all it's austerity, campaigned against it. Jeremy Corbyn would have been a Brexiteer if he hadn't have been Labour leader. It was only Boris's GE campaign in 2019 that turned it into a party political issue. |
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Post by Bentley on Oct 28, 2023 14:13:11 GMT
Only if you believe that the case for Net Zero is both compelling and extremely urgent . Why does that make it a left right issue? Sorry, not following you. As for Brexit . Has the ex remainer position changed from the remainer position that brexiters were old , racist , right wingers ? As an ex remainer... Brexit voters were generally older. That's demonstrable fact, rather than generalisation. Were there a lot of xenophobes in there? Sure. That doesn't mean everyone was. As for the right wingers, demonstrably not true. It was the working class vote in the Midlands and the North that won Brexit. The Tory government, with all it's austerity, campaigned against it. Jeremy Corbyn would have been a Brexiteer if he hadn't have been Labour leader. It was only Boris's GE campaign in 2019 that turned it into a party political issue. I know that leavers were not racist right wingers but during and after the leave campaign, in the media and social media when leavers were mentioned by remainers they were usually accused of being old ,right wing , racist xenophobes.( including this forum) . The fact that you now deny that Brexit was not a left/ right issue doesn’t change that . Leavers have denied that the Brexit base were racist right wingers since the off . I don’t care about speculation of what Corbyn would or would not party been had he not led the Labour Party. |
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Post by patman post on Oct 28, 2023 14:35:57 GMT
Do you not think we may have been better served if he'd been a little more open to the idea of public scrutiny when he was PM? Have you been living under a rock?
Johnson could not blow his nose without the left squealing about some bloody rubbish or other.
Well, Johnson is the Left's bogey man...! |
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Post by om15 on Oct 28, 2023 15:09:00 GMT
I think GB News is inventing itself as it goes along, it has shed the deranged/unpleasant/nutcases in the past few months, and has some pretty serious and heavyweight experienced talent on board, Jacob Rees Mogg, Michael Portillo and Nigel Farage, all three encourage people with different views to put forward their point of view in a polite and courteous way.
I think Boris Johnson is a backward step, he is a bullshitter and will say anything he thinks the audience wants to hear, he will piss off Ofcom and bring the station into disrepute, they should be concentrating on getting good quality presenters that will enhance the station's reputation, not garrulous failures that are only there for money and ego.
Boris Johnson had his chance to earn our approval, he blew it and a period of silence from him would be most welcome.
Blowing out Dan Wooten, Fox and that strange Jock bloke improved the station, we don't want it going backwards again.
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Post by patman post on Oct 28, 2023 15:32:21 GMT
Par for the course for GBNews. A liar and a charlatan. Would Johnson have been signed by GB News if Andrew Neil was still chairman? I don't think so...
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Post by Fairsociety on Oct 28, 2023 15:33:25 GMT
I think GB News is inventing itself as it goes along, it has shed the deranged/unpleasant/nutcases in the past few months, and has some pretty serious and heavyweight experienced talent on board, Jacob Rees Mogg, Michael Portillo and Nigel Farage, all three encourage people with different views to put forward their point of view in a polite and courteous way. I think Boris Johnson is a backward step, he is a bullshitter and will say anything he thinks the audience wants to hear, he will piss off Ofcom and bring the station into disrepute, they should be concentrating on getting good quality presenters that will enhance the station's reputation, not garrulous failures that are only there for money and ego. Boris Johnson had his chance to earn our approval, he blew it and a period of silence from him would be most welcome. Blowing out Dan Wooten, Fox and that strange Jock bloke improved the station, we don't want it going backwards again. Wootton/Fox and a few others are privy to information the general public will never know, unlike this forum where to a degree we can express ourselves, something we could never do on any mainstream media outlet, or we would find ourselves in some court or another, Fox has tried it, and we've seen what happened to him, Wootton has had a witch hunt since he crossed paths with Whinge Ginge Cringe Harry, his cards have been marked.
Boris Johnson is just a eccentric nut job, but he was stitched up like a kipper, we all know that, these are just a few people who've been gagged, like them or loath them, they are gagged from free speech, something the loony lefties will never be deprived of.
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