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Post by colbops on Nov 6, 2022 9:41:19 GMT
The illegal migrants are a big problem for this government and unless they get to grips with it they'll be punished at the next GE. I doubt it |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2022 9:56:55 GMT
The illegal migrants are a big problem for this government and unless they get to grips with it they'll be punished at the next GE. I doubt it There's nothing to punish them with on this issue. Out of the establishment parties this is as strong as it gets. |
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Post by Fairsociety on Nov 6, 2022 10:00:49 GMT
There's nothing to punish them with on this issue. Out of the establishment parties this is as strong as it gets. There is things they can do about it, but they are frightened of offending the Woke, they need to snap out of it, Macron and other leaders don't give a toss who they offend, the Tories need to remember it wont be the Woke Snowflakes who'll be voting for them anyway at the next GE, they need to start appeasing their core voters who want this abuse of illegal migrants stopping. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2022 10:32:48 GMT
There's nothing to punish them with on this issue. Out of the establishment parties this is as strong as it gets. There is things they can do about it, but they are frightened of offending the Woke, they need to snap out of it, Macron and other leaders don't give a toss who they offend, the Tories need to remember it wont be the Woke Snowflakes who'll be voting for them anyway at the next GE, they need to start appeasing their core voters who want this abuse of illegal migrants stopping. They keep letting their voters down. They can't even deal with the distruption in London caused by eco-warriors. People are literally dragging them off the roads while those who vandalise showrooms, shops and museums are encouraged by all of the coverage.
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Post by colbops on Nov 6, 2022 10:35:31 GMT
There's nothing to punish them with on this issue. Out of the establishment parties this is as strong as it gets. There is things they can do about it, but they are frightened of offending the Woke, they need to snap out of it, Macron and other leaders don't give a toss who they offend, the Tories need to remember it wont be the Woke Snowflakes who'll be voting for them anyway at the next GE, they need to start appeasing their core voters who want this abuse of illegal migrants stopping. I just don't see it. I don't think it is high enough up most people's agenda that it, as a single issue, will change who they choose to vote for. I don't think anyone else has a clear plan of action that would give anyone confidence that it will be swiftly dealt with by an alternative either. |
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Post by Handyman on Nov 6, 2022 10:49:56 GMT
The illegal migrants are a big problem for this government and unless they get to grips with it they'll be punished at the next GE. Having said that Starmer/Labour haven't come up with any plans either, yet again NO policies, they have the same stance with Brexit, the War in Ukraine, the cost of living crisis, soaring inflation, energy price hikes, mortgage/rent hikes ....... The Clueless Labour party. All they ever do is whinge, they never put their heads over the parapet and actually come up with a way forward themselves, if the Tories do come up with a good idea to address a problem last thing the Left will do is acknowledge it |
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Post by sheepy on Nov 6, 2022 10:52:13 GMT
LOL but they are looking good for new Labour I assume? who incidentally couldn't muster enough voters to fill a village hall before said crisis they all voted for, strange but true.
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Post by Handyman on Nov 6, 2022 10:54:17 GMT
I am fed up with all of them, most of them could not organise a shag in a free Brothel
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Post by Fairsociety on Nov 6, 2022 11:04:47 GMT
There is things they can do about it, but they are frightened of offending the Woke, they need to snap out of it, Macron and other leaders don't give a toss who they offend, the Tories need to remember it wont be the Woke Snowflakes who'll be voting for them anyway at the next GE, they need to start appeasing their core voters who want this abuse of illegal migrants stopping. I just don't see it. I don't think it is high enough up most people's agenda that it, as a single issue, will change who they choose to vote for. I don't think anyone else has a clear plan of action that would give anyone confidence that it will be swiftly dealt with by an alternative either. It will be now they are distributing the illegals to 5* Hotels throughout the Country, most people haven't been that bothered because the problem is mainly in Kent.
I can guarantee you it will go high on people's agenda once they are put up in Hotels near to where they live.
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Post by sheepy on Nov 6, 2022 11:11:09 GMT
I am fed up with all of them, most of them could not organise a shag in a free Brothel About the only thing they are good at is fecking everyone over, so it becomes more advantageous for themselves. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2022 11:18:34 GMT
The first Prime Minister of the current Tory reign was David Cameron, and it very much looks like Rishi Sunak will be the last. It will be Tory reign of 14 years. If we look at the nations most trusted Poll Tracker ( Electoral Calculous ), who track and plot every poll, their current predictions for November 2022 are that a General Election tomorrow would likely result in a Labour majority of 346 seats. On the probability of outcomes, they say that a Labour majority is 98% likely. This is what Electoral Calculous state ..... "If there were an imminent general election, then the Conservatives would be nearly wiped out, retaining fewer than 100 seats. Labour would be in government with a landslide majority, and all the other parties would be scrambling for relevance." Profressor Richard Rose has written a piece on why the "Sunak Bounce" has turned out to be not very big www.electoralcalculus.co.uk/blogs/ec_rrose_20221101.htmlI think that its possible for the Tories to make SOME headway, but I do not believe they can turn this around, and I think that the writing is on the wall for their demise at the next election. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2022 11:26:50 GMT
The people will then discover or rediscover that the opposition is just as bad or worse, and the cycle will continue. We need a new party.
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Post by Pacifico on Nov 6, 2022 11:28:19 GMT
There is things they can do about it, but they are frightened of offending the Woke, they need to snap out of it, Macron and other leaders don't give a toss who they offend, the Tories need to remember it wont be the Woke Snowflakes who'll be voting for them anyway at the next GE, they need to start appeasing their core voters who want this abuse of illegal migrants stopping. I just don't see it. I don't think it is high enough up most people's agenda that it, as a single issue, will change who they choose to vote for. I don't think anyone else has a clear plan of action that would give anyone confidence that it will be swiftly dealt with by an alternative either. I think there will be a lot of people who are natural Tory voters who are very annoyed that their taxes are going up to pay to keep illegal migrants in 4 star hotels. Whilst I doubt many would swap to Labour or the Libdems I can see quite a few voting Reform and many more sitting on their hands and not voting at all. |
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Post by totheleft3 on Nov 6, 2022 14:06:56 GMT
Whilst I doubt many would swap to Labour or the Libdems I can see quite a few voting Reform and many more sitting on their hands and not voting at all.
That can be said about the 2019 GE many labour voters switched there votes to ukip or couldn't be bothered voting to show there discontent at corbyn.
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Post by Toreador on Nov 6, 2022 15:09:57 GMT
I just don't see it. I don't think it is high enough up most people's agenda that it, as a single issue, will change who they choose to vote for. I don't think anyone else has a clear plan of action that would give anyone confidence that it will be swiftly dealt with by an alternative either. I think there will be a lot of people who are natural Tory voters who are very annoyed that their taxes are going up to pay to keep illegal migrants in 4 star hotels. Whilst I doubt many would swap to Labour or the Libdems I can see quite a few voting Reform and many more sitting on their hands and not voting at all. I think that's probably what will happen but Reform UK will have to put in more effort than at present that may need a change of leader and his deputy, unless of course the plan is to bide their time until things worsen but that's a dangerous game. |
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