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Post by Pacifico on Oct 22, 2023 14:02:59 GMT
does it matter how many babies were beheaded? It does when it is exposed as propaganda that people are using to excuse IDF war crimes. |
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Post by wapentake on Oct 22, 2023 14:07:37 GMT
Nobody is going to destroy Israel with or without the USA,they have nuclear capability and if push came to shove they’d use it without question. So the chanting about rivers and seas etc etc, is all just 'poetic rhetoric' or forlorn? I think it's important that people understand what they are asking for. The chanting about the rivers and the sea the Palestinians declare to be a free state of their own,the Israelis interpret it as Israel being destroyed. It depends on who is interpreting it and I cannot say either way what the aim is. However I did point out there are some Palestinians who would see Israel destroyed and some Israelis with the same end for Palestine,the difference is Israel has the means to achieve that Palestinians don’t do they? |
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Post by Orac on Oct 22, 2023 14:20:22 GMT
So the chanting about rivers and seas etc etc, is all just 'poetic rhetoric' or forlorn? I think it's important that people understand what they are asking for. The chanting about the rivers and the sea the Palestinians declare to be a free state of their own,the Israelis interpret it as Israel being destroyed. It depends on who is interpreting it and I cannot say either way what the aim is. However I did point out there are some Palestinians who would see Israel destroyed and some Israelis with the same end for Palestine,the difference is Israel has the means to achieve that Palestinians don’t do they? The song describes a situation in which Israel doesn't exist. Not sure how that can be open to much interpretation. |
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Post by Montegriffo on Oct 22, 2023 14:27:24 GMT
It does when it is exposed as propaganda that people are using to excuse IDF war crimes. That doesn't refute my point. Recycling propaganda from either side to justify atrocities is immoral who ever is doing it. As ever it is innocents who pay the price. I'm not the one taking sides here, you are. |
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Post by wapentake on Oct 22, 2023 14:28:35 GMT
It does when it is exposed as propaganda that people are using to excuse IDF war crimes. It should be pointed out on another thread where the claim of 500 killed at the hospital you made multiple posts to downgrade and downplay the numbers,Did you hear yourself? Just asking? |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2023 14:58:45 GMT
The growing Jew hatred coincides with Labour's magical growth in the polls. But then we knew the left have been tapping into multiculturalism with pure hate for years to form these evil alliances. They are truely shameless. But the Jew hatred is growing all over the world. In fact hatred of all descriptions and directions, which had been bubbling under the surface seems to be spitting its venom all around the globe. I'm not a Jew, but if I was, I'd be pretty fearful almost anywhere, except in Israel, right now. Israel is probably the safest place for Jews. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2023 15:03:57 GMT
There are parallels between the scapegoating of Jews in Nazi Germany and the present day scapegoating of Muslims. I don't suppose the left like threads about anti-Semitism, do they? So they'll divert as far as possible. Hitler would be proud of Hamas. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2023 15:06:37 GMT
The chanting about the rivers and the sea the Palestinians declare to be a free state of their own,the Israelis interpret it as Israel being destroyed. It depends on who is interpreting it and I cannot say either way what the aim is. However I did point out there are some Palestinians who would see Israel destroyed and some Israelis with the same end for Palestine,the difference is Israel has the means to achieve that Palestinians don’t do they? The song describes a situation in which Israel doesn't exist. Not sure how that can be open to much interpretation. Exactly. When they chant "free" they clearly mean free of Jews, because they are all dead. It's what Hamas want in their charter. They wrote it all down, just so we don't have to guess. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2023 15:08:55 GMT
That doesn't refute my point. Recycling propaganda from either side to justify atrocities is immoral who ever is doing it. As ever it is innocents who pay the price. I'm not the one taking sides here, you are. What, you mean you've been denouncing the Palestinian propaganda about Israel bombing the hospital, Israel bombing the church and thousands of children being killed? |
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Post by see2 on Oct 22, 2023 15:47:51 GMT
So the chanting about rivers and seas etc etc, is all just 'poetic rhetoric' or forlorn? I think it's important that people understand what they are asking for. The chanting about the rivers and the sea the Palestinians declare to be a free state of their own,the Israelis interpret it as Israel being destroyed. It depends on who is interpreting it and I cannot say either way what the aim is. However I did point out there are some Palestinians who would see Israel destroyed and some Israelis with the same end for Palestine,the difference is Israel has the means to achieve that Palestinians don’t do they? Err, what happened to the two state solution? "Some Palestinians"? That will be some Palestinian Arabs. Enough to ensure that the Jews will never live in peace peace in Palestine, and have been working to that end for well over 100years. Even though the Jews in Palestine are Palestinian. |
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Post by wapentake on Oct 22, 2023 15:51:32 GMT
From the river to the sea two opposing sets of nutters with the same idea.
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Post by Montegriffo on Oct 22, 2023 16:06:59 GMT
That doesn't refute my point. Recycling propaganda from either side to justify atrocities is immoral who ever is doing it. As ever it is innocents who pay the price. I'm not the one taking sides here, you are. What, you mean you've been denouncing the Palestinian propaganda about Israel bombing the hospital, Israel bombing the church and thousands of children being killed? I'm still on the fence about who bombed the hospital and I haven't heard about Israel bombing a church. |
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Post by see2 on Oct 22, 2023 16:15:37 GMT
What scapegoating of Muslims are you referring to? Seriously? Have you not seen all the demonization of all Muslims since 9/11? Are you claiming that no Muslims were involved in 9/11? Of course there were concerns over Muslim Terrorism at that time, just a handful short of 3,000 people died. I don't see any endless demonization of Muslims in terms of the never ending demonization of the Jews. I am not against any good people and I mean that in all honesty, but I do have serious concerns about the self-indoctrination that is the main basis of Islam the religion. I have this concern because probably unlike most people I have done a lot of personal research into the Human Condition. Clue: The human brain does not and cannot feel anything at all. The one guideline the brain has is that it is hard wired to be wary which allows it to unconsciously learn actual and perceived danger. |
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Post by see2 on Oct 22, 2023 16:24:31 GMT
From the river to the sea two opposing sets of nutters with the same idea. Benjamin Netanyahu is the most right-wing PM in Israeli history. IMO he is best described as a Fascist. I had not seen anything of the words of the song related to Netanyahu, do you have any evidence of it? |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2023 16:50:56 GMT
What, you mean you've been denouncing the Palestinian propaganda about Israel bombing the hospital, Israel bombing the church and thousands of children being killed? I'm still on the fence about who bombed the hospital and I haven't heard about Israel bombing a church. OK. Israel were accused of bombing a church in Gaza. They had actually bombed a building about 150? metres from the church, but the Hamas terrorists and liars used the slight fallout to make a huge drama out of a crisis. Then you may not have heard about the accidental damage to the Egyptians from a tank round near the border. Which, the IDF admitted and apologised and are investigating. When they get it wrong they care enough to admit it. They are trying not to kill the wrong people. |
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