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Post by Orac on Oct 22, 2023 11:35:46 GMT
It looks to me like perhaps 30s Germany was just a dress rehearsal. In what respect? In the rather obvious one. It would take a triple six dice role to dissolve Israel without a widespread pogram or world war. |
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Post by steppenwolf on Oct 22, 2023 11:38:05 GMT
A few weeks back the Palestinian regime launched a barbaric and almost unprecedented terrorist attack on Israel. But after an initial, very short, period of condemnation the main stream media is now full or reports about the plight of Palestine and, by implication if not outright accusation, how terrible Israel is.How short are their memories? Have they already forgotten the atrocities, of just a few weeks ago, that resulted the current situation? Because they seem to be engaged in some epic victim-blaming. Do they not care? Or are they simply institutionally anti-Semitic? My own opinion is that our MSM are afraid of offending the muslims. They're quite happy to attack Israel and the Jews but if they attack the muslim countries they make themselves a target. The Jews in the UK are pretty law abiding but the muslims are not interested in our law. They do exactly what they like and no one (least of all the police) ever touches them. The BBC, in particular, are very happy to give the representatives of Israel a hard time (especially Mishal Hussein) but when it's some crazed muslim they're very careful what they say - because it's dangerous to offend the muslims. |
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Post by Dan Dare on Oct 22, 2023 11:42:33 GMT
In the rather obvious one. It would take a triple six dice role to dissolve Israel without a widespread pogram or world war. While what you state may be true there doesn't appear to be an obvious parallel to 1930s Germany with the current situation in Israel/Palestine. Can you elaborate? |
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Post by Orac on Oct 22, 2023 11:51:31 GMT
In the rather obvious one. It would take a triple six dice role to dissolve Israel without a widespread pogram or world war. While what you state may be true there doesn't appear to be an obvious parallel to 1930s Germany with the current situation in Israel/Palestine. Can you elaborate? I'm not sure what you looking for here. You feel a Jewish pogrom / world war bears no significant resemblance to what happened in mid 20c Germany? |
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Post by Dan Dare on Oct 22, 2023 12:00:12 GMT
Well there could be if there were any serious risk of either, but that is unlikely not to say impossible as long as Israel has Uncle Sam for a bodyguard. It seems to me that if there is any prospect of a pogrom in the region the victims are more likely to be Palestinians rather than Jews.
And neither Israel nor the non-oil producing Arab states in the Middle East are important enough for major powers to go to war with each other about.
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Oct 22, 2023 12:01:46 GMT
A few weeks back the Palestinian regime launched a barbaric and almost unprecedented terrorist attack on Israel. But after an initial, very short, period of condemnation the main stream media is now full or reports about the plight of Palestine and, by implication if not outright accusation, how terrible Israel is.How short are their memories? Have they already forgotten the atrocities, of just a few weeks ago, that resulted the current situation? Because they seem to be engaged in some epic victim-blaming. Do they not care? Or are they simply institutionally anti-Semitic? My own opinion is that our MSM are afraid of offending the muslims. They're quite happy to attack Israel and the Jews but if they attack the muslim countries they make themselves a target. The Jews in the UK are pretty law abiding but the muslims are not interested in our law. They do exactly what they like and no one (least of all the police) ever touches them. The BBC, in particular, are very happy to give the representatives of Israel a hard time (especially Mishal Hussein) but when it's some crazed muslim they're very careful what they say - because it's dangerous to offend the muslims. That may well be true but if so is it not then more evidence of Institutional anti-Semitism? |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2023 12:03:28 GMT
While what you state may be true there doesn't appear to be an obvious parallel to 1930s Germany with the current situation in Israel/Palestine. Can you elaborate? I'm not sure what you looking for here. You feel a Jewish pogrom / world war bears no significant resemblance to what happened in mid 20c Germany? I guess it depends on how you look at it. The perceived problem the Nazis had was within Germany at the time. The difference, in my opinion, comes down to Pan-Islamism (a big part at least), which would explain why it all ignites in a timely fashion. The world is also more connected today. The Left are once again fuelling it, and I agree there is a lot of similarities in the actions we see.
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Post by Montegriffo on Oct 22, 2023 12:40:41 GMT
There are parallels between the scapegoating of Jews in Nazi Germany and the present day scapegoating of Muslims.
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Post by see2 on Oct 22, 2023 12:55:40 GMT
There are parallels between the scapegoating of Jews in Nazi Germany and the present day scapegoating of Muslims. What scapegoating of Muslims are you referring to? |
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Post by see2 on Oct 22, 2023 12:58:37 GMT
Why did Israel remove their army from Gaza pre-attack? Did Israeli intelligence leak this to Hamas? Where were the hang gliders the Hamas gunmen used to enter Israel or is this just a fake story? Why were stories leaked of babies being slaughtered and later retracted? When was the Israeli army removed from Gaza? |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Oct 22, 2023 13:06:18 GMT
There are parallels between the scapegoating of Jews in Nazi Germany and the present day scapegoating of Muslims. No there aren't.
There are however parallels between the modern left and the Nazis.
As becomes more apparent every day.
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Post by Montegriffo on Oct 22, 2023 13:21:00 GMT
There are parallels between the scapegoating of Jews in Nazi Germany and the present day scapegoating of Muslims. What scapegoating of Muslims are you referring to? Seriously? Have you not seen all the demonization of all Muslims since 9/11? |
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Post by Orac on Oct 22, 2023 13:21:40 GMT
There are parallels between the scapegoating of Jews in Nazi Germany and the present day scapegoating of Muslims. You mean the notion that they would refuse to integrate and instead form relentless fifth columns and voting blocks in western countries? |
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Post by wapentake on Oct 22, 2023 13:50:59 GMT
It looks to me like perhaps 30s Germany was just a dress rehearsal. Nobody is going to destroy Israel with or without the USA,they have nuclear capability and if push came to shove they’d use it without question. There are the nutters in Palestine would see Israel destroyed there are also nutters in Israel who would destroy what’s left of the Palestinian people too make no mistake on that either and Israel have the upper hand and have had for decades. Somebody I think Bancroft mentioned the nakba when in 1948 the Jews declared Israel and took their land,have no doubt the settlers are taking more and more of the West Bank and driving out Jews and Christian’s whilst the Israeli govt stands by,the ultimate aim is to take the promised land…..all of it. In the following clip you will see some of said nutters shouting death to all Arabs and may your villages burn,one particular charming specimen warns laughing the second nakba is coming and you will all end up in camps,given living history of the Jewish people why another Jew would laugh and celebrate others going in to camps is beyond me. |
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Post by Orac on Oct 22, 2023 13:55:38 GMT
It looks to me like perhaps 30s Germany was just a dress rehearsal. Nobody is going to destroy Israel with or without the USA,they have nuclear capability and if push came to shove they’d use it without question. So the chanting about rivers and seas etc etc, is all just 'poetic rhetoric' or forlorn? I think it's important that people understand what they are asking for. |
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