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Post by thomas on Oct 21, 2023 15:12:16 GMT
he was realeased without charge. no crime commited. If you have evidence to the contrary please post a link , but make it brief. I dont have all day to wade through the latest guff in the delirious mind of yours.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2023 15:15:17 GMT
People can watch the researched video. It mentions it. The fact that Thomas can only respond with personal abuse just goes to show how pathetic a debater he really is. It's the behaviour of the loony far-left today, but the fascists of old also behaved in a similar way as part of their shut down methods.
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Post by thomas on Oct 21, 2023 15:15:29 GMT
Hardly, I was merely drawing attention to the speech made by the person that you have chosen to be your First Minister, don't blame me because it contained absurd nonsense. Is that the best person you can find to be FM, still at least he hasn't been arrested by the Police yet, unlike the last two. no not hardly ommy. Facts mate. Facts.
Humza is free to say anything he likes , as are you. Neither he , nor you can control immigration to the uk as it stands today.
well there is this wee thing in scotland ommy , called criminal law. In our law system , you are innocent until proven guilty. Arrest by the polis isnt proof of a crime.
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Post by thomas on Oct 21, 2023 15:18:19 GMT
People can watch the researched video. It mentions it. The fact that Thomas can only respond with personal abuse just goes to show how pathetic a debater he really is. It's the behaviour of the loony far-left today, but the fascists of old also behaved in a similar way as part of their shut down methods. dont you see though (probably not ) that you might have a point if arthur donaldson was tried and convicted ? They let him go , b4 , as he hadnt done anythig wrong.
Meanwhile , we had a real nazi sympathiser in the british king eddie the 8th , who did support hitler , and according to the liberal mp norman baker in his book "and what do you do" actively encouraged hitler to bomb "england" into submission .
Not a word though , from our right wing nazi hunter b4 though.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2023 15:20:09 GMT
I didn't see the point in posting the same things again only for the liars to deny it all over again.
Still, it's apparently popular today:
You may now post personal insults and make demands for my removal.
The video mentions it, Thomas. Posting personal abuse and repeating the same line doesn't make it go away. The SNP today is really no different. They don't have a German Nazi government to suck up to, but they have the same anti-English mentality, the same Hitlerite and Fascist desire for Europe a Nation and the growing anti-semitism that's now become somewhat popular.
EDIT: I've imposed on om15's post enough. I did what was requested and find the personal abuse I am receiving only validates my position. It's out there.
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Post by thomas on Oct 21, 2023 15:23:25 GMT
I didn't see the point in posting the same things again only for the liars to deny it all over again.
Still, it's apparently popular today:
You may now post personal insults and make demands for my removal.
The video mentions it, Thomas. Posting personal abuse and repeating the same line doesn't make it go away. The SNP today is really no different. They don't have a German Nazi government to suck up to, but they have the same anti-English mentality, the same Hitlerite and Fascist desire for Europe a Nation and the same anti-semitism that's now become somewhat popular. we have all posted links over years on this issue , and there is claim and counter claim in various videos and links , books and by different historians.
The fact though is this. Whatever you want to believe in that murky head of yours , arthur donaldson was never even tried , let alone found guilty of any wrongdoing. As i told ommy up the thread, the very basis of western democracy is innocence until proven guilt.
You would think if you has a bit of mother wit you would pick an example of someone doing something wrong and being found guilty of it to have a solid base to attack from , but you cant even get that correct can you?
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Post by johnofgwent on Oct 25, 2023 18:42:02 GMT
Both Saudi Arabia and Egypt refuse to admit Palestinians due to security concerns. Humza has no such concerns, which is rather worrying if you happen to live in Scotland. i guess bis parents can vouch for those in the queue….
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Post by morayloon on Oct 25, 2023 20:46:04 GMT
People can watch the researched video. It mentions it. The fact that Thomas can only respond with personal abuse just goes to show how pathetic a debater he really is. It's the behaviour of the loony far-left today, but the fascists of old also behaved in a similar way as part of their shut down methods. Yes, the chairman, Andrew Dewar Gibb was sympathetic, but the chairman is not the Party. It is the National Conference that is the "supreme governing body of the Party". The chairman can have his opinions but policy is down to delegates at Conference. Anyway, like most members of the Scottish Party (which joined with the NPS in 1934) Gibb was fundamentally a Tory. He stood twice as a Tory candidate (1924 & 1929). Given his political background, could it be said that his fascistic views are understandable? In his book "Scottish Nationalism", HJ Hanham says (p 166) that: "From 1936 onwards party conferences were continually agitated by the possibility of war and by the dangers represented by the rise of Nazism in Germany and (more alarmingly)in England. The Party rank and file came out extremely strongly for 'unswerving opposition to all forms of undemocratic government' in 1937 and has remained hostile to fascism ever since"Arthur Donaldson was not a Fascist nor was he a Nazi sympathiser, he was a Scottish patriot who supported the call for no Scottish conscription. Ewen Angus Cameron (in the book "Scottish national Party Leaders" p221) expands somewhat on Felton's comments about Donaldson's arrest pointing to the inconsistency in the official government statements e.g. the denial that an army Major rather than a ranking police officer led the arresting group. Donaldson was one of three men held by the state, from 17 who were questioned. Donaldson had a lot of support, not least from James Maxton MP. He raised Donaldson's plight twice in HoC and got the Secretary of State for Scotland to look into the matter. Tom Johnston then said "I have fully considered all the available information relating to this case and while I am satisfied that that the information then available was sufficient to justify the making of an Order for provisional detention I have reached the conclusion after reviewing all the circumstances that this man's indefinite detention is not necessary in the interests of national security and I have accordingly authorised his release" (p220)
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Post by Vinny on Oct 25, 2023 21:38:17 GMT
Wrong.
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Post by morayloon on Oct 25, 2023 22:53:09 GMT
In what way? What I posted is factual.
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Post by Vinny on Oct 26, 2023 10:22:38 GMT
In every way. You post distortions and lies.
Donaldson was a Nazi sympathiser who tried to betray Britain.
It's a shame he wasn't hanged for treason.
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Post by morayloon on Oct 26, 2023 13:36:09 GMT
In every way. You post distortions and lies. Donaldson was a Nazi sympathiser who tried to betray Britain. It's a shame he wasn't hanged for treason. The post sourced material which was researched by historians who had access to SNP papers, minutes of meetings, letters etc. Are you, for instance, saying the Tom Johnston, Secretary of State for Scotland, quote wasn't factual? Your position is laughable
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Post by Vinny on Oct 26, 2023 13:48:54 GMT
I am saying the authorities were right to arrest the Nazi sympathising bastard and throw him in prison. You know full well that if his Nazi sympathies had been minuted he'd have hanged.
He was good at covering his tracks but he was a Hitler loving bastard just like the others.
And I'm so glad mad Angus is no longer an MP.
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Post by morayloon on Oct 26, 2023 14:50:42 GMT
I am saying the authorities were right to arrest the Nazi sympathising bastard and throw him in prison. You know full well that if his Nazi sympathies had been minuted he'd have hanged. He was good at covering his tracks but he was a Hitler loving bastard just like the others. And I'm so glad mad Angus is no longer an MP. All the info was logged. What do you think made Tom Johnston come to the decision that Donaldson was no risk to National Security
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Post by Vinny on Oct 26, 2023 14:51:59 GMT
No, most of the information wasn't logged. As a result sadly Donaldson ultimately got let off instead of hanging.
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