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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2023 9:03:51 GMT
I agree with you "fuck Hamas" I hope they are all caught, those that survive, taken out and hung drawn and quartered. But that will not solve the problem, by then Israel will have slaughtered 10s of thousands and an even more extremist group will rise from the ashes. I don't know about one set of murders justifying another set of murders, none of my family, friends and colleagues have been killed but I do know that if my 'country' was invaded I would fight back by any means possible but it appears you would not. If you really want to see what is happening to Gaza just look at the West Bank for they, undoubtably will be next. There are armed civilian Israeli settlers killing Palestinians with impunity, Israeli snipers kill children that throw stones at them Palestinians are considered a sub-species of human when stood up against western values. No, Palestinians are used as pawns in the grand game of trying to destroy Israel and have been for 70 years. Restricting refugees and keeping the camps going is largely down to Arabs. As a comparison if we had kept Ugandan and Kenyan Asians in camps pending a right of return would that have been right? Why does a special designation of refugee exist in the ME, Surely refugees are refugees fleeing despotic governments and/or war. Arabs are not blockading Gaza, Arabs are not stealing Land from Palestinians. Israel are. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2023 10:54:33 GMT
No, Palestinians are used as pawns in the grand game of trying to destroy Israel and have been for 70 years. Restricting refugees and keeping the camps going is largely down to Arabs. As a comparison if we had kept Ugandan and Kenyan Asians in camps pending a right of return would that have been right? Why does a special designation of refugee exist in the ME, Surely refugees are refugees fleeing despotic governments and/or war. Arabs are not blockading Gaza, Arabs are not stealing Land from Palestinians. Israel are. Hamas are Arabic. They have 240+ hostages. Should they release them and surrender to prevent more collateral damage? |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2023 13:35:02 GMT
Arabs are not blockading Gaza, Arabs are not stealing Land from Palestinians. Israel are. Hamas are Arabic. They have 240+ hostages. Should they release them and surrender to prevent more collateral damage? Israel have 2000+ hostages and have been blockading Gaza for 56 years, well before most of those involved in Hamas were born. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2023 14:44:02 GMT
Hamas are Arabic. They have 240+ hostages. Should they release them and surrender to prevent more collateral damage? Israel have 2000+ hostages and have been blockading Gaza for 56 years, well before most of those involved in Hamas were born. Wrong. They have no hostages. Wrong, they have not been blockading Gaza for 56 years. How many times do you need to be told about the Israeli withdrawal from Gaza, the period of time when borders were open, then Hamas, PIJ and the likes started "misbehaving" so Israel closed them down Land for peace, remember? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Land_for_peaceThey had the land. Then started attacking civilians in Israel. Then the borders were closed down. I'll copy and paste this to a file so I can easily repeat it for the hard of understanding. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2023 15:09:45 GMT
Israel have 2000+ hostages and have been blockading Gaza for 56 years, well before most of those involved in Hamas were born. Wrong. They have no hostages. Wrong, they have not been blockading Gaza for 56 years. How many times do you need to be told about the Israeli withdrawal from Gaza, the period of time when borders were open, then Hamas, PIJ and the likes started "misbehaving" so Israel closed them down Land for peace, remember? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Land_for_peaceThey had the land. Then started attacking civilians in Israel. Then the borders were closed down. I'll copy and paste this to a file so I can easily repeat it for the hard of understanding. I see, the Gaza blockade has been in place for 16 years in it's current form but they have been blockading Gaza for 56 years. Gaza is an occupied territory according to the UN, maybe we should leave the UN. Troops do not need to be in place in Gaza as long as you control the borders, water, electricity, power, food and medicines going in you are occupying. "The provision is that if there is an adequate withdrawal, a ll states in the area must be free to live within secure and recognized boundaries, free from force and threat of force. So it is an acceptance that Israel has a right to exist, just as they would have a right to their homeland, and have a right to exist. This is the essential bargain that we are proposing. It's not a new thing, it's been going since 1967. Look at the West Bank to see how free the Palestinians are. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2023 15:18:30 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2023 15:51:40 GMT
Lawful? 😂 When did Hamas make an unlawful war on Israel? |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2023 15:53:57 GMT
Lawful? 😂 When did Hamas make an unlawful war on Israel? I'll ignore that. That's three times you have avoided the issue of the hostages. You'll be telling me keeping hostages is not a war crime next. |
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Post by Vinny on Nov 9, 2023 15:54:24 GMT
Hamas are not defending their homes they're killing civilians. Where is the fucking difference between murdering Israeli civilians and murdering Gazans? There isn't. So either condemn both or shut up and let the grown ups take over the discussion. I have not said that Hamas are defending their homes, why lie. I have condemned Hamas while talking to you, why are you attempting to say I have not? The difference: Hamas are a terrorist organisation, Israel's military are on a state sanctioned mission to wipe out the Palestinians with the UK's blessing. We, like Israel want Hamas destroyed and we, like Israel know when they are another group will take their place, meanwhile Israel will have killed 10s of thousands of innocents. I agree, Hamas are 'tw*ts' but that does not justify killing innocent civilians. The IDF are not on a mission to wipe out the Palestinians. They Israelis are phoning Palestinians and telling them to get out. "He told me he wanted to bomb three towers… and ordered me to evacuate the surrounding area.
That's a warning. A warning that gets civilians clear in time but not missiles or bombs.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2023 16:38:32 GMT
Lawful? 😂 When did Hamas make an unlawful war on Israel? I'll ignore that. That's three times you have avoided the issue of the hostages. You'll be telling me keeping hostages is not a war crime next. No I have not. Are Israel going to release their hostages taken from the West Bank since time began on the 7th? |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2023 16:39:13 GMT
I have not said that Hamas are defending their homes, why lie. I have condemned Hamas while talking to you, why are you attempting to say I have not? The difference: Hamas are a terrorist organisation, Israel's military are on a state sanctioned mission to wipe out the Palestinians with the UK's blessing. We, like Israel want Hamas destroyed and we, like Israel know when they are another group will take their place, meanwhile Israel will have killed 10s of thousands of innocents. I agree, Hamas are 'tw*ts' but that does not justify killing innocent civilians. The IDF are not on a mission to wipe out the Palestinians. They Israelis are phoning Palestinians and telling them to get out. "He told me he wanted to bomb three towers… and ordered me to evacuate the surrounding area.
That's a warning. A warning that gets civilians clear in time but not missiles or bombs.
"They Israelis are phoning Palestinians and telling them to get out." correct and then bombing them. |
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Post by Vinny on Nov 9, 2023 16:48:45 GMT
Two hour warnings, clearing buildings and reducing casualties.
What warning did Hamas give when they murdered 1400? None.
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Post by Pacifico on Nov 9, 2023 18:26:46 GMT
The IDF are not on a mission to wipe out the Palestinians. They Israelis are phoning Palestinians and telling them to get out. "He told me he wanted to bomb three towers… and ordered me to evacuate the surrounding area.
That's a warning. A warning that gets civilians clear in time but not missiles or bombs.
"They Israelis are phoning Palestinians and telling them to get out." correct and then bombing them. what warnings do the Palestinians give before they attack Israel? |
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Post by Bentley on Nov 9, 2023 18:43:34 GMT
The only way to defeat a group like Hamas is to talk to them. Good point . Maybe all those civilians they raped , tortured and murdered should have spoken up ….ffs. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2023 5:11:23 GMT
Two hour warnings, clearing buildings and reducing casualties. What warning did Hamas give when they murdered 1400? None. Hang on, who is living in the largest open air prison in the world? Who is constantly being harassed by an apartheid state? Who has it's citizens arrested and imprisoned for no reason? Who is murdering civilians and stealing land? And you expect manners, grow up. |
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