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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Jan 20, 2024 17:06:48 GMT
Purchase price isn't everything. For example, there are perfectly good and reliable wristwatches for a tenner, but people spend £50, £100, £500 and even thousands to own particular brands and/or technologies... And there are perfecty good ICE vehicles out there that are faf far cheaper than EV's and there is no que to fill them up at the pumps. BYD have just launched one for $11k. It's a 4-seater basic family car. |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Jan 20, 2024 17:09:51 GMT
That's down to long-term industrial planning. The CPC saw the way the market was going to go years ago, so the whole of China geared up to automotive production, like I even saw it some years ago with Chinese chip makers. Between them they have all the manufacturers to make the various parts and all the industry to supply them as well. It's called vertical integration. and im sure the Chinese are sitting laughing at the stupidity of the western nations. They must be. They are master strategists, like Russian chess players but even more so.
I notice Ford and GM have some prissy women to run them.
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Post by Pacifico on Jan 20, 2024 18:25:29 GMT
Purchase price isn't everything. For example, there are perfectly good and reliable wristwatches for a tenner, but people spend £50, £100, £500 and even thousands to own particular brands and/or technologies... but nobody pays a premium for Chinese goods - they are experts at cheap and cheerful |
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Post by jonksy on Jan 20, 2024 19:33:11 GMT
And there are perfecty good ICE vehicles out there that are faf far cheaper than EV's and there is no que to fill them up at the pumps. BYD have just launched one for $11k. It's a 4-seater basic family car. With a range of 170 miles providing you do not users the heater, wipers and lights. |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Jan 20, 2024 19:42:34 GMT
BYD have just launched one for $11k. It's a 4-seater basic family car. With a range of 170 miles providing you do not users the heater, wipers and lights. 170 miles is pretty good. How much further would you want to drive in this godforsaken county? |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Jan 20, 2024 19:44:08 GMT
Purchase price isn't everything. For example, there are perfectly good and reliable wristwatches for a tenner, but people spend £50, £100, £500 and even thousands to own particular brands and/or technologies... but nobody pays a premium for Chinese goods - they are experts at cheap and cheerful We were once cheap, but now we are expensive misery. |
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Post by jonksy on Jan 20, 2024 19:45:34 GMT
With a range of 170 miles providing you do not users the heater, wipers and lights. 170 miles is pretty good. How much further would you want to drive in this godforsaken county? I would have to drive that distance to find a bloody charger. And in a freezing lemon with a misted up windscreen to boot. |
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Post by jonksy on Jan 20, 2024 19:47:54 GMT
but nobody pays a premium for Chinese goods - they are experts at cheap and cheerful We were once cheap, but now we are expensive misery. Made in hong kong was stamped onto the trash you found in a christmas cracker. |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Jan 20, 2024 20:34:17 GMT
170 miles is pretty good. How much further would you want to drive in this godforsaken county? I would have to drive that distance to find a bloody charger. And in a freezing lemon with a misted up windscreen to boot. If you were visiting a friend then chances are in the age of EVs he would have a charger. I can't see you doing over 170m in a day just by going shopping. If you commute to work the the firm should have chargers. Anyway, it is a bloody good deal for that money. Also with house charging, people are getting into setting up large solar arrays so you can travel with free leccy. All these things are coming down in price, such as batteries, solar panels. Production is heavily automated. |
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Post by Bentley on Jan 20, 2024 21:12:43 GMT
Imo EVs will be generally accepted when there is no other choice but to drive an EV
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Post by jonksy on Jan 20, 2024 22:12:21 GMT
I would have to drive that distance to find a bloody charger. And in a freezing lemon with a misted up windscreen to boot. If you were visiting a friend then chances are in the age of EVs he would have a charger. I can't see you doing over 170m in a day just by going shopping. If you commute to work the the firm should have chargers. Anyway, it is a bloody good deal for that money. Also with house charging, people are getting into setting up large solar arrays so you can travel with free leccy. All these things are coming down in price, such as batteries, solar panels. Production is heavily automated. So not only a potencial bomb on the drive another on the roof for good measure..
EDIT and BTW my friends are not stupid enough to purchase a lemon.
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Jan 20, 2024 22:21:51 GMT
If you were visiting a friend then chances are in the age of EVs he would have a charger. I can't see you doing over 170m in a day just by going shopping. If you commute to work the the firm should have chargers. Anyway, it is a bloody good deal for that money. Also with house charging, people are getting into setting up large solar arrays so you can travel with free leccy. All these things are coming down in price, such as batteries, solar panels. Production is heavily automated. So not only a potencial bomb on the drive another on the roof for good measure..
EDIT and BTW my friends are not stupid enough to purchase a lemon.
This was my friend's workshop.
He's called Rob and I met him this Christmas and he was showing me some of the photos.
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Post by jonksy on Jan 20, 2024 22:24:57 GMT
So not only a potencial bomb on the drive another on the roof for good measure..
EDIT and BTW my friends are not stupid enough to purchase a lemon.
This was my friend's workshop.
He's called Rob and I met him this Christmas and he was showing me some of the photos.
But it wasn't on his roof or his drive was it BVL? FFS cow can you comapre an industrial fire to a resedential fire...? The mind boggles.. |
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Post by Pacifico on Jan 20, 2024 22:44:05 GMT
I would have to drive that distance to find a bloody charger. And in a freezing lemon with a misted up windscreen to boot. If you were visiting a friend then chances are in the age of EVs he would have a charger. I can't see you doing over 170m in a day just by going shopping. If you commute to work the the firm should have chargers. Anyway, it is a bloody good deal for that money. Also with house charging, people are getting into setting up large solar arrays so you can travel with free leccy. All these things are coming down in price, such as batteries, solar panels. Production is heavily automated. Total delusion..  |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Jan 20, 2024 22:46:59 GMT
This was my friend's workshop.
He's called Rob and I met him this Christmas and he was showing me some of the photos.
But it wasn't on his roof or his drive was it BVL? FFS cow can you comapre an industrial fire to a resedential fire...? The mind boggles.. Solar batteries should be perfectly safe if you are not a complete idiot and use them according to the instructions. By the way, those gas canisters were launching like rockets. It was like Baghdad that morning! (home made Scuds) |
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