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Post by Bentley on Mar 8, 2024 21:48:49 GMT
Insurance for all electric vehicles is substantially more than an ice why do you think that is? Because of the lack of claim history regarding them. lol. |
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Post by jonksy on Mar 8, 2024 21:53:21 GMT
Nope the pickup bed. which is dual layered. No, you showed a video on Navara towing. Can you show the video of the 5 ton dual layered Navara. Oh wait, ofcourse you can't coz it don't exist. Not playing you game zany. You tried to make out I suggested that a trailer was the boot of a nevara. |
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Post by Pacifico on Mar 8, 2024 22:08:40 GMT
Interesting story from the US - guy rented an EV in California and had a bit of a nightmare. Seems it doesn't matter what country you are in the public recharging infrastructure is inadequate. If you cant make EV's work in California then they are not going to work anywhere. Just look at the cover screen, if you squint you can actually see the words clickbait. Another few thousand earnt from the idiots. So are you claiming that the queue for the chargers, the broken and out of action chargers and the slow charging were all invented? Or perhaps you never bothered to look at the report and so have absolutely no idea what you are talking about... |
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Post by steppenwolf on Mar 9, 2024 7:49:55 GMT
Insurance for all electric vehicles is substantially more than an ice why do you think that is? Because of the lack of claim history regarding them. I think it's more because the battery is a very expensive component and it can be damaged even in minor shunts. And any possible damage to the battery means the car has to be written off. It's just too dangerous to take chances with these batteries because if they catch fire they can't be put out.. And the brake problems are probably because BEVs have radically different brake design because of the requirement to recover kinetic energy by charging the battery rather than using the brakes. The drivers who've had this problem have said that the brake pedal "pushed back" preventing braking. The car was trying to bypass the brake system and engage the battery charging system instead. Looks like there's a bit more work to be done on the kinetic recovery system. Still that's just a matter of correcting a design fault - which can easily be done. It's different from all the other problems with BEVs which need a number of (highly unlikely) technological advances to put right. |
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Post by steppenwolf on Mar 9, 2024 8:02:54 GMT
all addressed with your usual fantasy predictions of what technology might possibly be available in the future.. More generic nothing words bought to you from Pacifico. Fantasy predictions such as range will increase. Lol. Every time the range increases a you tube twat claims he has to drive further. And apparently every ICE owner knows someone who drives from Lands end to John of Groats every day without a break. Its so petty its laughable. It's very easy to increase the range of a BEV of course - just stick in a bigger battery. Unfortunately there are a few problems with this: - The cost of bigger batteries is HUGE - They're very HEAVY - They're very BIG - They take much LONGER to charge It's not like an ICE car where you just stick in a bigger tank (which costs a few quid). The only REAL solution to the range problem is to crack the problem with the length of time needed to charge the battery. And that is a massive problem. |
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Post by zanygame on Mar 9, 2024 8:35:41 GMT
Because of the lack of claim history regarding them. Are you saying it’s not the price of parts and complexity also? No. I agree that is part of the issue, but according to the insurers it lack of data. They are worried about the cost of repairing/replacing the batteries because they have no data on how many accidents cause battery damage. |
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Post by zanygame on Mar 9, 2024 8:39:34 GMT
No, you showed a video on Navara towing. Can you show the video of the 5 ton dual layered Navara. Oh wait, ofcourse you can't coz it don't exist. Not playing you game zany. You tried to make out I suggested that a trailer was the boot of a nevara. Best to run away. I said: Good luck getting 2 tons in your boot. You said: I can get 5 tons in mine. And it doesn't decrease the range even with the heater wipes and headlight on plus towing a trailer.. See that. "5 tons in your boot plus towing a trailer.." |
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Post by zanygame on Mar 9, 2024 8:40:20 GMT
Just look at the cover screen, if you squint you can actually see the words clickbait. Another few thousand earnt from the idiots. So are you claiming that the queue for the chargers, the broken and out of action chargers and the slow charging were all invented? Or perhaps you never bothered to look at the report and so have absolutely no idea what you are talking about... I say it was staged. |
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Post by jonksy on Mar 9, 2024 8:44:24 GMT
Not playing you game zany. You tried to make out I suggested that a trailer was the boot of a nevara. From what zany? |
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Post by jonksy on Mar 9, 2024 8:45:35 GMT
So are you claiming that the queue for the chargers, the broken and out of action chargers and the slow charging were all invented? Or perhaps you never bothered to look at the report and so have absolutely no idea what you are talking about... I say it was staged. And when have you ever been correct? |
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Post by zanygame on Mar 9, 2024 8:49:51 GMT
More generic nothing words bought to you from Pacifico. Fantasy predictions such as range will increase. Lol. Every time the range increases a you tube twat claims he has to drive further. And apparently every ICE owner knows someone who drives from Lands end to John of Groats every day without a break. Its so petty its laughable. It's very easy to increase the range of a BEV of course - just stick in a bigger battery. Unfortunately there are a few problems with this: - The cost of bigger batteries is HUGE - They're very HEAVY - They're very BIG - They take much LONGER to charge It's not like an ICE car where you just stick in a bigger tank (which costs a few quid). That's the easy way. Truth is battery range has almost tripled but batteries have not got 3 times bigger or heavier. Its about energy density. Yes they're getting there to. "The Nyobolt EV weighs closer to one tonne than two, uses a 35kWh battery and is capable of fully charging with up to 250km range in under 6 mins with existing charging infrastructure, without sacrificing battery life." www.fleetnews.co.uk/news/latest-fleet-news/electric-fleet-news/2023/06/13/new-electric-vehicle-battery-tech-makes-six-minute-charge-possibleMore fantasy predictions from Zany coming true. Not because Zany is a magician, but because Zany bothers to read both sides of the equation. |
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Post by jonksy on Mar 9, 2024 8:54:22 GMT
It's very easy to increase the range of a BEV of course - just stick in a bigger battery. Unfortunately there are a few problems with this: - The cost of bigger batteries is HUGE - They're very HEAVY - They're very BIG - They take much LONGER to charge It's not like an ICE car where you just stick in a bigger tank (which costs a few quid). That's the easy way. Truth is battery range has almost tripled but batteries have not got 3 times bigger or heavier. Its about energy density. Yes they're getting there to. "The Nyobolt EV weighs closer to one tonne than two, uses a 35kWh battery and is capable of fully charging with up to 250km range in under 6 mins with existing charging infrastructure, without sacrificing battery life." www.fleetnews.co.uk/news/latest-fleet-news/electric-fleet-news/2023/06/13/new-electric-vehicle-battery-tech-makes-six-minute-charge-possibleMore fantasy predictions from Zany coming true. Not because Zany is a magician, but because Zany bothers to read both sides of the equation. Just another of the regular bullshit predictions about a wonder battery.....LOL |
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Post by wapentake on Mar 9, 2024 8:59:48 GMT
Are you saying it’s not the price of parts and complexity also? No. I agree that is part of the issue, but according to the insurers it lack of data. They are worried about the cost of repairing/replacing the batteries because they have no data on how many accidents cause battery damage. There are multiple links all say the same that slightest damage which can be a scratch on the battery and it has to be replaced,since the batteries are under the floor that’s likely so they are then written off because of cost. link |
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Post by zanygame on Mar 9, 2024 9:04:19 GMT
Just another of the regular bullshit predictions about a wonder battery.....LOL Thanks for that intelligent well researched answer. You bring so much to the forum. |
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Post by zanygame on Mar 9, 2024 9:05:34 GMT
No. I agree that is part of the issue, but according to the insurers it lack of data. They are worried about the cost of repairing/replacing the batteries because they have no data on how many accidents cause battery damage. There are multiple links all say the same that slightest damage which can be a scratch on the battery and it has to be replaced,since the batteries are under the floor that’s likely so they are then written off because of cost. linkIndeed, scare stories abound. What insurers lack is data. Your link says "For many electric vehicles, there is no way to repair or assess even slightly damaged battery packs after accidents" But not what percentage of accidents cause battery damage. Also the growing number of cars where individual battery cells can be replaced. But we've done this whole conversation before. Why do you guys never research both sides of any argument. |
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