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Post by Pacifico on Oct 15, 2023 6:41:13 GMT
This is exactly the point. People like you are suggesting that there is some kind of equivalence - to the extent that you are lying about history. I can assure you that the Germans did not suggest to the population of Lidice that there were 2 routes that they could use to leave the town.. If you want to support Hamas or whoever go ahead - if you just want to demonise Jews go ahead - but please stop with the crass rewriting of history. Why are the two routes out not very safe then? If the Israelis want to let the Palestinians get to safety they must stop bombing the routes. They have been putting obstacles in the way of the civilians leaving since the bombing started. You are really getting carried away. Calm down and start thinking. To make legitimate criticisms of the Israeli actions does not equate to supporting Hamas. I, however, am in total sympathy with the Palestinian people who are caught up in Israel's outrageous behaviour. In mentioning Lidice I am in no way rewriting history and am in no way suggesting it is totally comparable to what is happening now. But, let's just look at the history: Heydrich was killed and the Germans retaliated by killing the menfolk, deporting the women and children and raising the town to the ground. Fast forward to October 7th and Hamas carried out mass killings to which the Israelis retaliated by obliterating many areas of Gaza, killing (not only men) and maiming thousands while forcing hundreds and thousands to leave their homes, probably never to return. Sound familiar? For gods sake - try and learn some history. Lidice was the deliberate complete extermination of every man in the town - your suggestion of equivalence with Gaza is pointless and offensive. |
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Post by om15 on Oct 15, 2023 9:06:39 GMT
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Post by morayloon on Oct 15, 2023 10:44:36 GMT
Why are the two routes out not very safe then? If the Israelis want to let the Palestinians get to safety they must stop bombing the routes. They have been putting obstacles in the way of the civilians leaving since the bombing started. You are really getting carried away. Calm down and start thinking. To make legitimate criticisms of the Israeli actions does not equate to supporting Hamas. I, however, am in total sympathy with the Palestinian people who are caught up in Israel's outrageous behaviour. In mentioning Lidice I am in no way rewriting history and am in no way suggesting it is totally comparable to what is happening now. But, let's just look at the history: Heydrich was killed and the Germans retaliated by killing the menfolk, deporting the women and children and raising the town to the ground. Fast forward to October 7th and Hamas carried out mass killings to which the Israelis retaliated by obliterating many areas of Gaza, killing (not only men) and maiming thousands while forcing hundreds and thousands to leave their homes, probably never to return. Sound familiar? For gods sake - try and learn some history. Lidice was the deliberate complete extermination of every man in the town - your suggestion of equivalence with Gaza is pointless and offensive. And Gaza is the attempted genocide of the Palestinians - and not only men! As for offensive and pointless it is neither. You don't like the comparison? Tough |
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Post by om15 on Oct 15, 2023 13:59:00 GMT
Absolute nonsense, firstly the attacks started from Gaza and were carried out by Hamas, this has been going on for years, I spent a couple of days in Tel Aviv once when the rockets were coming over for two days and there wasn't a mention of this on the BBC, but on the third day when the IDF destroyed a launch site causing a fatality from the civilian population it was all over the news.
Israel has to either live with it, being attacked constantly, with this latest atrocity designed to start a war, or has to go in and eliminate the terrorists, they have stated that they will take all practical measures to keep civilian casualties to a minimum.
You cannot compare the unrestrained butchery of Israeli civilians carried out by Hamas to the responses of the IDF.
To say there is an attempted genocide of the Palestinians is breathtaking naivety or completely anti semitic, or both. The Israelis are defending their Country and their citizens.
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Oct 15, 2023 14:06:59 GMT
Yep, the anti-Semitic false equivalence rears its head again.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2023 14:12:05 GMT
Absolute nonsense, firstly the attacks started from Gaza and were carried out by Hamas, this has been going on for years, I spent a couple of days in Tel Aviv once when the rockets were coming over for two days and there wasn't a mention of this on the BBC, but on the third day when the IDF destroyed a launch site causing a fatality from the civilian population it was all over the news. Israel has to either live with it, being attacked constantly, with this latest atrocity designed to start a war, or has to go in and eliminate the terrorists, they have stated that they will take all practical measures to keep civilian casualties to a minimum. You cannot compare the unrestrained butchery of Israeli civilians carried out by Hamas to the responses of the IDF. To say there is an attempted genocide of the Palestinians is breathtaking naivety or completely anti semitic, or both. The Israelis are defending their Country and their citizens. Did the trouble only start on Saturday? |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2023 14:12:33 GMT
Yep, the anti-Semitic false equivalence rears its head again. Where is the false equivalence? |
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Post by Fairsociety on Oct 15, 2023 14:51:47 GMT
Yep, the anti-Semitic false equivalence rears its head again. Where is the false equivalence? Don't you ever have a day off?
if you think making posters go round in circles will make you look like you know what you're talking about ....... think again, it's just gobbledygook.
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Post by morayloon on Oct 15, 2023 15:27:19 GMT
Absolute nonsense, firstly the attacks started from Gaza and were carried out by Hamas, this has been going on for years, I spent a couple of days in Tel Aviv once when the rockets were coming over for two days and there wasn't a mention of this on the BBC, but on the third day when the IDF destroyed a launch site causing a fatality from the civilian population it was all over the news. Israel has to either live with it, being attacked constantly, with this latest atrocity designed to start a war, or has to go in and eliminate the terrorists, they have stated that they will take all practical measures to keep civilian casualties to a minimum. You cannot compare the unrestrained butchery of Israeli civilians carried out by Hamas to the responses of the IDF. To say there is an attempted genocide of the Palestinians is breathtaking naivety or completely anti semitic, or both. The Israelis are defending their Country and their citizens. The Israelis are murdering and maiming thousands of Palestinians through their indiscriminate missile attacks and bombings. If you believe that they are acting with restraint then you are breathtakingly naive. There is nothing antisemitic about criticising Israel and the country's inhuman behaviour |
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Post by Fairsociety on Oct 15, 2023 15:54:59 GMT
Absolute nonsense, firstly the attacks started from Gaza and were carried out by Hamas, this has been going on for years, I spent a couple of days in Tel Aviv once when the rockets were coming over for two days and there wasn't a mention of this on the BBC, but on the third day when the IDF destroyed a launch site causing a fatality from the civilian population it was all over the news. Israel has to either live with it, being attacked constantly, with this latest atrocity designed to start a war, or has to go in and eliminate the terrorists, they have stated that they will take all practical measures to keep civilian casualties to a minimum. You cannot compare the unrestrained butchery of Israeli civilians carried out by Hamas to the responses of the IDF. To say there is an attempted genocide of the Palestinians is breathtaking naivety or completely anti semitic, or both. The Israelis are defending their Country and their citizens. The Israelis are murdering and maiming thousands of Palestinians through their indiscriminate missile attacks and bombings. If you believe that they are acting with restraint then you are breathtakingly naive. There is nothing antisemitic about criticising Israel and the country's inhuman behaviour The Jews have been persecuted since records began, this particular race of people for whatever reason have spent their lives in fear of one persecution or another, it's a testimony to them they haven't given up their religion culture, they are still battling on, Hitler failed but many are there to take his place ........ WHY? |
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Post by morayloon on Oct 15, 2023 16:02:13 GMT
The Israelis are murdering and maiming thousands of Palestinians through their indiscriminate missile attacks and bombings. If you believe that they are acting with restraint then you are breathtakingly naive. There is nothing antisemitic about criticising Israel and the country's inhuman behaviour The Jews have been persecuted since records began, this particular race of people for whatever reason have spent their lives in fear of one persecution or another, it's a testimony to them they haven't given up their religion culture, they are still battling on, Hitler failed but many are there to take his place ........ WHY? And that gives the Israelis the right to persecute the Palestinians? The Israeli government should recognise where their actions could lead |
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Post by Fairsociety on Oct 15, 2023 16:04:26 GMT
The Jews have been persecuted since records began, this particular race of people for whatever reason have spent their lives in fear of one persecution or another, it's a testimony to them they haven't given up their religion culture, they are still battling on, Hitler failed but many are there to take his place ........ WHY? And that gives the Israelis the right to persecute the Palestinians? The Israeli government should recognise where their actions could lead Answer the question I asked
"The Jews have been persecuted since records began, this particular race of people for whatever reason have spent their lives in fear of one persecution or another, it's a testimony to them they haven't given up their religion culture, they are still battling on, Hitler failed but many are there to take his place" ........ WHY?
Answer required.
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Post by Pacifico on Oct 15, 2023 17:05:57 GMT
For gods sake - try and learn some history. Lidice was the deliberate complete extermination of every man in the town - your suggestion of equivalence with Gaza is pointless and offensive. And Gaza is the attempted genocide of the Palestinians - and not only men! As for offensive and pointless it is neither. You don't like the comparison? Tough Oh don't be silly - if you want to commit genocide you dont ask the 'victims' to leave the area.. |
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Post by Pacifico on Oct 15, 2023 17:07:41 GMT
Absolute nonsense, firstly the attacks started from Gaza and were carried out by Hamas, this has been going on for years, I spent a couple of days in Tel Aviv once when the rockets were coming over for two days and there wasn't a mention of this on the BBC, but on the third day when the IDF destroyed a launch site causing a fatality from the civilian population it was all over the news. Israel has to either live with it, being attacked constantly, with this latest atrocity designed to start a war, or has to go in and eliminate the terrorists, they have stated that they will take all practical measures to keep civilian casualties to a minimum. You cannot compare the unrestrained butchery of Israeli civilians carried out by Hamas to the responses of the IDF. To say there is an attempted genocide of the Palestinians is breathtaking naivety or completely anti semitic, or both. The Israelis are defending their Country and their citizens. Did the trouble only start on Saturday? Well arguably it started on 15th May 1948 when the Arab armies invaded... |
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Post by Fairsociety on Oct 15, 2023 17:27:32 GMT
Serious question here
Why are we supposed to hate the Jews?
I know it's a typical 'joke' we should laugh, but seriously, why are the Jews hated so much.
A bigger question, if they were 'Black' or 'Muslims' this kind of racism would not be allowed, ...... come on I need help here, what is going on?
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