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Post by zanygame on Oct 11, 2023 19:46:52 GMT
Market value is what you can get for a house in a location. More houses lowers competition and therefore market value. I live in Cambridge, you couldn't get a bigger growth area...
Yes very pretty.
Good question, I'll do a bit of research Well in my plan this goes on across the country, so you don't create that result. And us folks in the commuter belt no about it to. But that's because we have more people than houses Again its less houses than needed that creates this. And again. Again. If we built a billion? Not suggesting we do, just making a point. |
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Post by zanygame on Oct 11, 2023 19:49:04 GMT
...Low pay would become normal pay... And I'm sure you'd love that. Why? |
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Post by johnofgwent on Oct 11, 2023 19:56:52 GMT
No.
Stopping the torrent of freeloaders rocking up to steal a home from a citizen already here will do far more than ripping up more and more land to turn over to more and more ripoff opportunities for millionaire landlords.
If you want to undo fifty years of boom and bust house price insanity we need to go back to local authority key worker housing at subsidised rates. And i mean key WORKER housing for people with JOBS. You’d be amazed how fast bone idle loafers would take jobs if they came with such subsidised benefits. That’s how New Towns found the workers they needed for the industries they were built to provide a local workforce for in the fifties
The last thing we should do is provide an even bigger income stream for the multi millionaires currently funded from their idle tenant’s housing benefits paid for from my bloody tax
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Oct 11, 2023 20:04:57 GMT
If we built a billion? Not suggesting we do, just making a point. And as I said: And even if we could, we couldn't do it while meeting all of our environmental and other obligations. You can't have it all. |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Oct 11, 2023 20:06:17 GMT
And I'm sure you'd love that. Why? Because you have a personal financial interest in cheap labour. |
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Post by sandypine on Oct 11, 2023 20:07:55 GMT
No. Stopping the torrent of freeloaders rocking up to steal a home from a citizen already here will do far more than ripping up more and more land to turn over to more and more ripoff opportunities for millionaire landlords. If you want to undo fifty years of boom and bust house price insanity we need to go back to local authority key worker housing at subsidised rates. And i mean key WORKER housing for people with JOBS. You’d be amazed how fast bone idle loafers would take jobs if they came with such subsidised benefits. That’s how New Towns found the workers they needed for the industries they were built to provide a local workforce for in the fifties The last thing we should do is provide an even bigger income stream for the multi millionaires currently funded from their idle tenant’s housing benefits paid for from my bloody tax I can recall one our technicians moving to our construction site and being classed as a key worker and getting a local authority house for his family back in about 1972. |
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Post by Bentley on Oct 11, 2023 20:08:43 GMT
Well we do need more houses .
If we can build then without importing cheap labour to live in them ,the employees who build them already live here and the whole project has an inbuilt decent apprentice/ training scheme then it would go some way to save the UK.
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Post by zanygame on Oct 11, 2023 20:25:41 GMT
If we built a billion? Not suggesting we do, just making a point. And as I said: And even if we could, we couldn't do it while meeting all of our environmental and other obligations. You can't have it all. Sorry missed this. I think we could build environmentally friendly houses (And I don't mean extremes.) Afterall, all those people have to live somewhere now. |
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Post by zanygame on Oct 11, 2023 20:32:33 GMT
Well we do need more houses . If we can build then without importing cheap labour to live in them ,the employees who build them already live here and the whole project has an inbuilt decent apprentice/ training scheme then it would go some way to save the UK. I think we all agree that we want immigration dramatically cut. An interesting side effect of bringing down house prices is you might not need to keep increasing the population to get enough tax to run the country. Someone paying £700 a month less on their mortgage/rent might not complain about paying £200 a month more in tax? |
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Post by Orac on Oct 11, 2023 20:33:32 GMT
I have a park home in Shropshire, a really pretty county. Housebuilding is destroying much of the area with as many little boxes as possible being squeezed into some very small plots. If we regard a house as a home then many people both now and in the future will be very disappointed. to do this properly. Thus making us even more dependent |
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Post by zanygame on Oct 11, 2023 20:40:27 GMT
We need to give up some farm land to do this properly. Thus making us even more dependent We could always have a cull instead. 🙄 But I find it amusing that you don't mind us being dependent on unstable countries for our energy but wouldn't give up a tiny bit of food security to give people homes. |
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Post by bancroft on Oct 11, 2023 20:42:37 GMT
I think we need more detail on where the houses are to be built.
We had a proposal to change the local retail shopping centre and this included building 10 tower blocks with 16 storeys and people said WTF and stopped it.
In the right places might work, yet if this is to house asylum seekers there will be trouble ahead.
I suspect they want to build new neighbourhoods on green land on the periphery close to existing cities and large towns.
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Oct 11, 2023 20:43:07 GMT
Thus making us even more dependent We could always have a cull instead. 🙄 But I find it amusing that you don't mind us being dependent on unstable countries for our energy but wouldn't give up a tiny bit of food security to give people homes. Homes where they can starve?
Excellent idea. Not.
And that brings us to the other issue: Supporting infrastructure. And too many modern houses are built without as it is. Nope, sorry but building our way out of over-population just isn't going to work.
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Post by Orac on Oct 11, 2023 20:46:30 GMT
Thus making us even more dependent We could always have a cull instead. 🙄 But I find it amusing that you don't mind us being dependent on unstable countries for our energy but wouldn't give up a tiny bit of food security to give people homes. Cull? So, you feel the number of people is a problem? Who said i'n happy relying on unstable countries for our energy? It's better than relying on the wind, but i would rather we didn't have to rely on either |
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Post by Bentley on Oct 11, 2023 20:47:58 GMT
Well we do need more houses . If we can build then without importing cheap labour to live in them ,the employees who build them already live here and the whole project has an inbuilt decent apprentice/ training scheme then it would go some way to save the UK. I think we all agree that we want immigration dramatically cut. An interesting side effect of bringing down house prices is you might not need to keep increasing the population to get enough tax to run the country. Someone paying £700 a month less on their mortgage/rent might not complain about paying £200 a month more in tax? I’m not sure whether that would happen but if it did then I would welcome it . As an aside , I remember that inflation was your friend regarding mortgages in the late 70 / early 80s . You could take out a mortgage that left you with just enough money for beans on toast for tea and be confident that it would be much more affordable in two years because you wages would be more . |
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