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Post by dappy on Oct 11, 2023 11:59:26 GMT
Carney was appointed by a Tory chancellor and plainly is experienced in matters affecting the economy. He is entitled to hold and express his opinion on the economic plans of the two parties. It is voters choice whether to take much notice (I suspect few will in truth)
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Post by ratcliff on Oct 11, 2023 12:07:42 GMT
Carney was appointed by a Tory chancellor and plainly is experienced in matters affecting the economy. He is entitled to hold and express his opinion on the economic plans of the two parties. It is voters choice whether to take much notice (I suspect few will in truth) He was appointed by a coalition chancellor
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Post by dappy on Oct 11, 2023 12:28:38 GMT
Oh please.....
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Post by dodgydave on Oct 12, 2023 13:11:21 GMT
Endorsing somebody that got caught using a parliamentary credit card for personal use, allowing her to borrow thousands of pounds interest free... why wouldn't you want somebody like that in charge of the public purse lol.
That aside, we all know Labour's sums don't add up. They keep telling us they are the grown ups... just make a positive case for higher taxes and stop telling lies as to why things are the way they are.
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Post by ratcliff on Oct 12, 2023 13:46:42 GMT
Endorsing somebody that got caught using a parliamentary credit card for personal use, allowing her to borrow thousands of pounds interest free... why wouldn't you want somebody like that in charge of the public purse lol. That aside, we all know Labour's sums don't add up. They keep telling us they are the grown ups... just make a positive case for higher taxes and stop telling lies as to why things are the way they are. Don't forget the photoshopped (then deleted) tweet trying to hide that she flies business class www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/rachel-reeves-new-york-first-class-flight-b2343360.html
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Post by Fairsociety on Oct 12, 2023 13:56:01 GMT
Endorsing somebody that got caught using a parliamentary credit card for personal use, allowing her to borrow thousands of pounds interest free... why wouldn't you want somebody like that in charge of the public purse lol. That aside, we all know Labour's sums don't add up. They keep telling us they are the grown ups... just make a positive case for higher taxes and stop telling lies as to why things are the way they are. Don't forget the photoshopped (then deleted) tweet trying to hide that she flies business class www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/rachel-reeves-new-york-first-class-flight-b2343360.htmlYes, their double standard hypocrisy knows no bounds.
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Post by steppenwolf on Oct 14, 2023 7:05:33 GMT
When Tony Blair left office in 2007, prior to the International Banking Crisis and the recession which followed, the economy of this country was absolutely fine. Growth was good, inflation low, living standards rising, and all combined with much improved public services. In 2007 the NHS was in very good shape, waiting lists had come down, waiting times were down, the numbers of NHS procedures was up, cancer treatments and out comes improved, and the same with heart desease. ALL WITHOUT EXCESS BORROWING Supporters of the Conservatives ( strange that there still is any ) cannot use the excuse of "borrowing", firstly because the Blair government DID NOT borrow large sums of money, but also because the government in 2020 had to borrow heavily due to the Pandemic ... precisely the same as what Gordon Brown had to do post The Financial Meltdown and Recession, and the same as John Major had to do in the early 1990s recession. The period 1997 - 2008, was the last time where the UK economy was in a good state, and where living standards improved at the same time. Since 2010, the UK economy has flopped or bounced along the bottom, living standards have fallen, and all public services have deteriorated. Simple, basic, facts Simplistic, basic facts, Sid. You need to look a bit deeper to see why the Brown/Blair years did so much damage to the economy. Brown used two tricks to create this mirage. Firstly he kept borrowing off the balance sheet - he was an expert accountant. So borrowing was done by PFIs whose only purpose was to deceive. These were very bad deals for the taxpayer. Secondly Brown kept the GDP growing year after year by the simple trick of expanding the state - e.g. the civil service and public employees generally. This is an easy way to create apparent growth (because it's added to GDP) but it's very bad for productivity and it costs the taxpayer a lot to run. So by the time that Brown was booted out he was running a state that accounted for about 50% of the GDP. Which is a disaster. It's generally reckoned that economies like ours can sustain a state of between 37% and 40% of GDP. Anything much over that and we plunge into deficit. Which is exactly what happened. By 2010 we were running the largest peacetime deficit in history (£150,000 pa) and the Treasury coffers were empty - as Liam Byrne's note to his successor said. This is why the Coalition had to cut spending so drastically and borrow large amounts of money.
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