Mark Carney endorses Labour Shadow Chancellor

What Mark Carney means is that he agrees with what Ms Reeves says - but I don't think that necessarily makes her a "serious economist". Mark Carney was a very political economist whose economic judgements were heavily influenced by his political dogma - which is not a good thing. The thing is that we've already got plenty of this type of economist in the Treasury. The last thing we need is a Chancellor who agrees with the Treasury.

Well of course, those bloody Tories have had at it with the spoils, where are our spoils? the EU were always good at sharing some out. 

The Tories are frothing at the mouth over this one.🤣

Sue Gray, Johnson's ex wife and now Carney.

I think that it could. Much, much worse.  Socialism simply doesn't work. By the way, you haven't told me a single prediction of Carney's that was right.

When Tony Blair left office in 2007, prior to the International Banking Crisis and the recession which followed, the economy of this country was absolutely fine. Growth was good, inflation low, living standards rising, and all combined with much improved public services.

In 2007 the NHS was in very good shape, waiting lists had come down, waiting times were down, the numbers of NHS procedures was up, cancer treatments and out comes improved, and the same with heart desease.

ALL WITHOUT EXCESS BORROWING

Supporters of the Conservatives ( strange that there still is any ) cannot use the excuse of "borrowing", firstly because the Blair government DID NOT borrow large sums of money, but also because the government in 2020 had to borrow heavily due to the Pandemic ... precisely the same as what Gordon Brown had to do post The Financial Meltdown and Recession, and the same as John Major had to do in the early 1990s recession.

The period 1997 - 2008, was the last time where the UK economy was in a good state, and where living standards improved at the same time.

Since 2010, the UK economy has flopped or bounced along the bottom, living standards have fallen, and all public services have deteriorated.

Simple, basic, facts

Thinking just like a Conservative

and at the very heart of Conservative thinking is the concept of "The Free Market"

So, just as a customer, consumer, service user or client can choose based on such things as cost, value, quality or convenience, so can a doctor or a nurse, or any NHS worker, they can go and work somewhere else, and unfortunately they are doing.

Those that feel NHS workers are on too good a thing, must realize that the reason why there is a staff shortage, which is affecting the delivery of services, is because staff (A) are leaving, and (B) qualified people dont want to work in the NHS.

13 years of effectively LOWER pay and worse terms and conditions are to blame, so how would a person with very traditional Conservative views suggest we put things right. ?

I agree that asking for a 35% pay increase is unreasonable, especially in the current economic climate, but on the other hand, this is the figure which would restore pay back to where it was.

Would it not help if the government kept on talking with doctors, to see if there can be a way throght, to attempt to find a compromise. ?

Why cannot the government restore some of the lost real terms pay over a number of years, via both wages and other non-financial incentives.