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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2023 5:45:46 GMT
And that's a large part of "What's wrong with the left?" - the cynical exploitation of those that they purport to protect. The left exploit black people by calling out racism?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2023 5:53:00 GMT
Most people are hypocritical on many points that is not a left trait it is a human trait. They hate racism but are racist is an odd remark, here I assume you are talking about 'white' privilege or more accurately the denial that it exists, please correct me if I am wrong but you give no example. It just sounds like you are reading off a list with no context or example, so I have to say that could apply to all wings of politics. Many people are hypocritical, it is the left that make it an art form. I am more than willing to give examples but if you could indulge me for a moment could you define racism for me please so I know exactly what example to reference. As regards hating ideologies but demanding respect for belief we have a very broad left view that Islamophobia is a hate crime which is very much taken to be anyone who dislikes or criticises Islam strongly and Islam is only a belief. The same people organise anti fascist marches, disruptive action and insulting name calling (scum) against members of other legal political parties which are only beliefs not even clearly definable beliefs. This is actually also against human rights in that the free dissemination and discussion of a belief is held to be a human right. Logic is rarely present when they're involved. It's all about sponsored violence and other emotional outbursts, which is why they get along with other backwards. The Left have been using terrorism for years.
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Oct 13, 2023 6:17:23 GMT
And that's a large part of "What's wrong with the left?" - the cynical exploitation of those that they purport to protect. The left exploit black people by calling out racism? Yep. By calling out faux racism in order to sow societal division. It's their stock in trade.
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Oct 13, 2023 6:27:42 GMT
So what have we learned?
Well, apart from being a bunch of terrorist sympathising, anti-Semitic, race baiting, politics of envy merchants with absolutely no moral compass, the left are just fine and dandy.
Well, apart from the smell.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2023 7:53:43 GMT
Many people are hypocritical, it is the left that make it an art form. I am more than willing to give examples but if you could indulge me for a moment could you define racism for me please so I know exactly what example to reference. As regards hating ideologies but demanding respect for belief we have a very broad left view that Islamophobia is a hate crime which is very much taken to be anyone who dislikes or criticises Islam strongly and Islam is only a belief. The same people organise anti fascist marches, disruptive action and insulting name calling (scum) against members of other legal political parties which are only beliefs not even clearly definable beliefs. This is actually also against human rights in that the free dissemination and discussion of a belief is held to be a human right. Logic is rarely present when they're involved. It's all about sponsored violence and other emotional outbursts, which is why they get along with other backwards. The Left have been using terrorism for years. When have the left sponsored violence? You are making claims you have no evidence for. Are you attempting to cancel emotions as well?
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Post by johnofgwent on Oct 13, 2023 8:08:05 GMT
I know I am opening a can of worms here and will get no sensible comments but I am going to give it a go. I hear the left is this and the left is that but never any sensible reasons for disliking them. Typical. The left spends other peoples money - and so do all political parties. The left are champagne socialists - the left has no problem with some amongst them being well off. The left are woke - we are all woke to one degree or another, so what? The left want to defund the police - they don't. The left are in the pockets of the unions - the unions are made up of working people. The left support BLM - they do they believe all lives matter. The left call out things like food bank use - they do but why doesn't everyone? Just a few. Ok that’s quite a list. Here’s a thought for you then. Lets start with one narrow aspect of old style hard left politics I presume you remember Dennis Healey’s 98% tax rate. Do you think that was a good thing ?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2023 8:26:29 GMT
The left exploit black people by calling out racism? Yep. By calling out faux racism in order to sow societal division. It's their stock in trade. Faux racism? You do not believe racism happens?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2023 8:30:38 GMT
I know I am opening a can of worms here and will get no sensible comments but I am going to give it a go. I hear the left is this and the left is that but never any sensible reasons for disliking them. Typical. The left spends other peoples money - and so do all political parties. The left are champagne socialists - the left has no problem with some amongst them being well off. The left are woke - we are all woke to one degree or another, so what? The left want to defund the police - they don't. The left are in the pockets of the unions - the unions are made up of working people. The left support BLM - they do they believe all lives matter. The left call out things like food bank use - they do but why doesn't everyone? Just a few. Ok that’s quite a list. Here’s a thought for you then. Lets start with one narrow aspect of old style hard left politics I presume you remember Dennis Healey’s 98% tax rate. Do you think that was a good thing ? Do you mean when the UK was near to insolvency, which was, as I seem to remember, avoided. It was never meant as a permanent feature of the tax system.
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Oct 13, 2023 8:53:54 GMT
Yep. By calling out faux racism in order to sow societal division. It's their stock in trade. Faux racism? You do not believe racism happens? To the extent pretended by the left, no
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2023 9:21:26 GMT
Faux racism? You do not believe racism happens? To the extent pretended by the left, no So, at what level do you think racism is acceptable in the western world before it becomes faux?
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Post by Fairsociety on Oct 13, 2023 9:33:41 GMT
To the extent pretended by the left, no So, at what level do you think racism is acceptable in the western world before it becomes faux? I gave you a prime example yesterday, Fiona Bruce was accused of racism because she called a black man a black man, I am sure we can define that as 'faux' racism.
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Oct 13, 2023 9:47:27 GMT
To the extent pretended by the left, no So, at what level do you think racism is acceptable in the western world before it becomes faux? Remind us, when did you stop beating your wife?
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Post by ratcliff on Oct 13, 2023 10:12:01 GMT
Ok that’s quite a list. Here’s a thought for you then. Lets start with one narrow aspect of old style hard left politics I presume you remember Dennis Healey’s 98% tax rate. Do you think that was a good thing ? Do you mean when the UK was near to insolvency, which was, as I seem to remember, avoided. It was never meant as a permanent feature of the tax system. Income tax was supposed to be temporary feature , over 200 years later it's still here
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2023 10:58:17 GMT
So, at what level do you think racism is acceptable in the western world before it becomes faux? I gave you a prime example yesterday, Fiona Bruce was accused of racism because she called a black man a black man, I am sure we can define that as 'faux' racism. She was not accused of racism, at what level does an accusation start in your mind? Why did she call him a black man instead of saying the colour or style of his clothes which she had for other guest? Because it was easier?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2023 10:58:39 GMT
So, at what level do you think racism is acceptable in the western world before it becomes faux? Remind us, when did you stop beating your wife? Idiot.
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