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Post by Vinny on Oct 6, 2023 14:38:10 GMT
The Scottish "government" is no more a government than Sadiq Khan's devolved London Assembly (which actually represents far more people than the Holyrood junta does).
Devolution just wastes money churning out needless legislation whilst drawing money away from frontline public services.
Abolish devolution.
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Post by sheepy on Oct 6, 2023 16:44:03 GMT
They couldn't even get near 40% of voters between the lot of them. Nobody in their right mind turns up for their own downfall.
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Post by om15 on Oct 6, 2023 16:54:16 GMT
I don't think so, the concept of devolution presumes that local matters will be decided by people who have competence and integrity, this is manifestly not the case in Scotland, London and Wales, all this mess has to be funded and those that fund it are aghast at how their money is being squandered, wasted, stolen and can't be accounted for, therefore if Whitehall decides to scrap devolution it will receive overwhelming support.
You might not like it, but that doesn't matter, it is the responsibility of Whitehall to look after their citizens, and morally Whitehall can't sit back and watch citizens in Scotland sink into third world standards.
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Post by morayloon on Oct 6, 2023 17:13:18 GMT
The Scottish "government" is no more a government than Sadiq Khan's devolved London Assembly (which actually represents far more people than the Holyrood junta does). Devolution just wastes money churning out needless legislation whilst drawing money away from frontline public services. Abolish devolution. Talking bollocks again. |
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Post by morayloon on Oct 6, 2023 17:26:52 GMT
I don't think so, the concept of devolution presumes that local matters will be decided by people who have competence and integrity, this is manifestly not the case in Scotland, London and Wales, all this mess has to be funded and those that fund it are aghast at how their money is being squandered, wasted, stolen and can't be accounted for, therefore if Whitehall decides to scrap devolution it will receive overwhelming support. You might not like it, but that doesn't matter, it is the responsibility of Whitehall to look after their citizens, and morally Whitehall can't sit back and watch citizens in Scotland sink into third world standards. 344 You have to persuade the Scots that Devolution is not worth it. So far only 8% back doing away with Holyrood. Your fanciful dreaming will come to nought if Scots can't/won't be persuaded. Opinion polls show thT Scots are satisfied with the settlement. You would cause a lot of problems if your government tried to force Holyrood into abeyance. You really must widen your reading material. Less of the Tory/Brit Nat ramblings of the rìabid right wing Mail, Express. Sum, Telegraph. If you must, get a little balance with the National |
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Post by om15 on Oct 6, 2023 17:43:55 GMT
Really?  |
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Post by morayloon on Oct 6, 2023 18:48:03 GMT
Pointing out the bloody obvious. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2023 21:42:23 GMT
They couldn't even get near 40% of voters between the lot of them. Nobody in their right mind turns up for their own downfall. It could be a coincidence, but didn't Scotland recently open a load of drug consumption rooms? |
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Post by morayloon on Oct 7, 2023 3:15:23 GMT
They couldn't even get near 40% of voters between the lot of them. Nobody in their right mind turns up for their own downfall. It could be a coincidence, but didn't Scotland recently open a load of drug consumption rooms? No! |
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Post by jonksy on Oct 7, 2023 6:11:53 GMT
to abolish devolution, all we need is a Westminster parliament, from which the acts giving it were issued, to take them off the statute. That’s it. Those who want it may not be happy but they can do it Nobody's saying they can't do it. What I am saying is that any government stupid enough to try it would in all probability cause a major backlash, resulting in the probability of even more people voting for retaining Devolution than did in 1997 for the re-formation of a Scottish Parliament Still pushing the same old agenda then fellow Brit.You havent got a government you have a county council...FFS |
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Post by Vinny on Oct 7, 2023 6:14:04 GMT
Devolution is a failure, a monumental waste of British taxes, duplicating governmental functions, legislating for the sake of spite against Westminster and for the sake of "devolved" legislation. Nothing good has come from the London Assembly, the Scottish "Parliament" or the Welsh Assembly.
Hold a referendum explaining this to taxpayers, get a mandate to abolish, and do so.
Scrap devolution it doesnae work.
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Post by morayloon on Oct 7, 2023 11:24:55 GMT
Nobody's saying they can't do it. What I am saying is that any government stupid enough to try it would in all probability cause a major backlash, resulting in the probability of even more people voting for retaining Devolution than did in 1997 for the re-formation of a Scottish Parliament Still pushing the same old agenda then fellow Brit.You havent got a government you have a county council...FFS What County Council has the power to alter taxation. What County Council looks after its own NHS. What County Council has its own legal and justice systems. What County Council has power over certain welfare payments. The list goes on. |
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Post by jonksy on Oct 7, 2023 12:43:47 GMT
Still pushing the same old agenda then fellow Brit.You havent got a government you have a county council...FFS What County Council has the power to alter taxation. What County Council looks after its own NHS. What County Council has its own legal and justice systems. What County Council has power over certain welfare payments. The list goes on. Simple fellow Brit....The SNATS |
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Post by jonksy on Oct 7, 2023 12:44:37 GMT
Yee hah SNATS's Humza Yousaf warned he has just days left after shambolic by-election result. Miss you already NOT.
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Post by Vinny on Oct 7, 2023 15:50:45 GMT
Any government sensible enough to try it would win a huge majority at the subsequent election for saving us all an absolute fortune.
If Labour were to put a referendum on the abolition of devolution in their manifesto they'd win by a fucking LANDSLIDE.
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