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Post by jonksy on Sept 28, 2023 21:10:04 GMT
Sunak expected to limit powers of councils in England to curb car use
Rishi Sunak is to prioritise the interests of millions of car owners with a series of measures that will provoke environmentalists and curb the power of local councils.
In a package expected to be announced at the Tory conference on Monday, the prime minister will set out his “plan for motorists” that limits the number of 20mph speed restrictions and favours drivers over bus passengers.
The move would be hugely controversial, setting ministers on a collision course with local authorities, who rely on their powers to keep bus lanes traffic free.
Sunak’s plan is the latest in a recent series of contentious policy ideas, such as his watering down of net zero targets, designed to revive his government and create clear dividing lines with Labour.
He has also raised the prospect of paring back the hugely over-budget HS2 rail line – though he refused to provide clarity on his plans on Thursday.
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Post by dappy on Sept 28, 2023 22:09:28 GMT
Sunak does appear to have got off the fence and decided to fight the next election as full populist UKIP. He may as well go all in and appoint Truss as Chancellor. We’ll see how popular populism really is in a few months….
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2023 11:21:39 GMT
Sunak does appear to have got off the fence and decided to fight the next election as full populist UKIP. He may as well go all in and appoint Truss as Chancellor. We’ll see how popular populism really is in a few months…. I think you mean Kwasi Kwarteng as Chancellr, maybe Rebecca Jane as foreign minister and Liz Truss as PM. Rishi can retire to California.
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Post by Fairsociety on Sept 29, 2023 14:36:07 GMT
The people of lefty Wales are up on arms about the 20mph zones, I think Sunak should play a blinder, tell them if he's elected he'll get rid of them, because everyone in Wales knows it's a lefty policy, Sunak should use it for his GE manifesto, if he does it now those in Wales will still vote Labour.
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Sept 29, 2023 15:07:49 GMT
Sounds like Sunak's realised where his bread is buttered: All of these nutty road schemes are massively unpopular with the majority of people and they will cost Labour dear at the next GE. Let's face it: Most things that governments do are irrelevant to the man in the street. A foreign policy here, a tax tweak there and Mr Normal doesn't give a shit because it doesn't really affect him. But charge him £12.50 for driving to work, fine him for driving down the wrong street or at the wrong time and he will definitely notice.
And that will be reflected at the ballot box.
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Post by Fairsociety on Sept 29, 2023 15:17:15 GMT
Sounds like Sunak's realised where his bread is buttered: All of these nutty road schemes are massively unpopular with the majority of people and they will cost Labour dear at the next GE. Let's face it: Most things that governments do are irrelevant to the man in the street. A foreign policy here, a tax tweak there and Mr Normal doesn't give a shit because it doesn't really affect him. But charge him £12.50 for driving to work, fine him for driving down the wrong street or at the wrong time and he will definitely notice.
And that will be reflected at the ballot box. Yes I suspect flip flop didn't want these charges and changes until 'after' the GE, if he's clobbering us now can you imagine what he'd be like if he's elected.
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Post by jonksy on Sept 29, 2023 15:26:15 GMT
Sounds like Sunak's realised where his bread is buttered: All of these nutty road schemes are massively unpopular with the majority of people and they will cost Labour dear at the next GE. Let's face it: Most things that governments do are irrelevant to the man in the street. A foreign policy here, a tax tweak there and Mr Normal doesn't give a shit because it doesn't really affect him. But charge him £12.50 for driving to work, fine him for driving down the wrong street or at the wrong time and he will definitely notice.
And that will be reflected at the ballot box. Yes I suspect flip flop didn't want these charges and changes until 'after' the GE, if he's clobbering us now can you imagine what he'd be like if he's elected. More people in Wales have signed the petition against this lunacy than voted for labour.
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Post by Fairsociety on Sept 29, 2023 15:31:30 GMT
Yes I suspect flip flop didn't want these charges and changes until 'after' the GE, if he's clobbering us now can you imagine what he'd be like if he's elected. More people in Wales have signed the petition against this lunacy than voted for labour.
LOL...
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Post by Red Rackham on Sept 29, 2023 15:56:56 GMT
Sunak does appear to have got off the fence and decided to fight the next election as full populist UKIP. He may as well go all in and appoint Truss as Chancellor. We’ll see how popular populism really is in a few months…. I think you mean Kwasi Kwarteng as Chancellr, maybe Rebecca Jane as foreign minister and Liz Truss as PM. Rishi can retire to California. As he inevitably will at some point.
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Sept 29, 2023 16:05:28 GMT
Yes I suspect flip flop didn't want these charges and changes until 'after' the GE, if he's clobbering us now can you imagine what he'd be like if he's elected. More people in Wales have signed the petition against this lunacy than voted for labour.
I suspect that Welsh Labours majority is finished. As I suspect is Khan's mayoralty and Flip-Flops chances at the next GE.
Labour just need to keep pushing the green agenda and the war on the motorist and the Tories will be home and dry.
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Post by Red Rackham on Sept 29, 2023 16:09:00 GMT
Sounds like Sunak's realised where his bread is buttered: All of these nutty road schemes are massively unpopular with the majority of people and they will cost Labour dear at the next GE. Let's face it: Most things that governments do are irrelevant to the man in the street. A foreign policy here, a tax tweak there and Mr Normal doesn't give a shit because it doesn't really affect him. But charge him £12.50 for driving to work, fine him for driving down the wrong street or at the wrong time and he will definitely notice.
And that will be reflected at the ballot box. I agree, it would appear that Sunak has realised which side his bread is buttered. Which on the face of it is good news. But there's a nagging question I keep asking myself - would he be rowing back on net zero and policies that penalise motorists, if the election had been a few months ago rather than in a few months time. I'd like to think he would, but who knows. Time will tell I guess.
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Post by Red Rackham on Sept 29, 2023 16:10:31 GMT
More people in Wales have signed the petition against this lunacy than voted for labour.
I suspect that Welsh Labours majority is finished. As I suspect is Khan's mayoralty and Flip-Flops chances at the next GE.
Labour just need to keep pushing the green agenda and the war on the motorist and the Tories will be home and dry. Absolutely, this change of tac will be a big worry for green agenda mad Starmer.
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Post by bancroft on Sept 29, 2023 16:13:09 GMT
The Tories are going for the Middle England vote.
It appears populist, they recognise most are not able to switch cars in the short run.
Middle England are typically car drivers.
Triple lock pension stays.
Getting the new Scottish oil find up and running makes sense too, note even with govt subsidies they recently could not sell plans for more sea based wind turbines.
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Sept 29, 2023 16:13:36 GMT
Sounds like Sunak's realised where his bread is buttered: All of these nutty road schemes are massively unpopular with the majority of people and they will cost Labour dear at the next GE. Let's face it: Most things that governments do are irrelevant to the man in the street. A foreign policy here, a tax tweak there and Mr Normal doesn't give a shit because it doesn't really affect him. But charge him £12.50 for driving to work, fine him for driving down the wrong street or at the wrong time and he will definitely notice.
And that will be reflected at the ballot box. I agree, it would appear that Sunak has realised which side his bread is buttered. Which on the face of it is good news. But there's a nagging question I keep asking myself - would he be rowing back on net zero and policies that penalise motorists, if the election had been a few months ago rather than in a few months time. I'd like to think he would, but who knows. Time will tell I guess. I doubt he'd be rowing back on them had he not been forced to recognise that they are massive vote losers.
But rowing back will be popular with traditional Tory voters as will changes to inheritance tax and ISA limits.
Just when I'd given up hope, the Tories are suddenly saying the right things.
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Post by Red Rackham on Sept 29, 2023 16:18:21 GMT
I agree, it would appear that Sunak has realised which side his bread is buttered. Which on the face of it is good news. But there's a nagging question I keep asking myself - would he be rowing back on net zero and policies that penalise motorists, if the election had been a few months ago rather than in a few months time. I'd like to think he would, but who knows. Time will tell I guess. I doubt he'd be rowing back on them had he not been forced to recognise that they are massive vote losers.
But rowing back will be popular with traditional Tory voters as will changes to inheritance tax and ISA limits.
Just when I'd given up hope, the Tories are suddenly saying the right things.
Indeed, at long last the Tories actually sound like Tories. Who'd a thunk it.
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