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Post by Dan Dare on Oct 3, 2023 9:15:16 GMT
If anyone is interested the 2010 'High Speed Rail' white paper which describes the UK government's rationale for the construction, routing and financing of HS2 is available on line (Cm 7827).
You'll search in vain for any reference to the EU (except the single one I mentioned) or any confirmation of plans to connect HS2 to the continent via HS1.
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Post by sheepy on Oct 3, 2023 9:17:47 GMT
If anyone is interested the 2010 'High Speed Rail' white paper which describes the UK government's rationale for the construction, routing and financing of HS2 is available on line (Cm 7827). You'll search in vain for any reference to the EU (except the single one I mentioned) or any confirmation of plans to connect HS2 to the continent via HS1. The map don't lie Einstein. It matters not who puts themselves up for taking the credit. |
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Post by dappy on Oct 3, 2023 9:42:35 GMT
Perhaps you could explain to me Sheepy. What benefit would countries currently in the EU derive from our building a rail line between Euston and Manchester (let alone between Birmingham and a random west London suburb no one has heard of? Look at the map Einstein they are all interlinked, which don't get me wrong, seemed like a good idea at the time but not so much now, as we are said to be no longer in the EU and with costs out of any control which could obviously have been put into updating the original infrastructure. Obviously in future at a set cost not some open ended money printing machine. Although of course you would be one of those happy to bankrupt the country with some folly or another as long as it was put up towards net zero. How is a line between Euston and Manchester interlinked with the rail network in mainland Europe? |
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Post by Handyman on Oct 3, 2023 9:42:36 GMT
Perhaps you could explain to me Sheepy. What benefit would countries currently in the EU derive from our building a rail line between Euston and Manchester (let alone between Birmingham and a random west London suburb no one has heard of? Look at the map Einstein they are all interlinked, which don't get me wrong, seemed like a good idea at the time but not so much now, as we are said to be no longer in the EU and with costs out of any control which could obviously have been put into updating the original infrastructure. Obviously in future at a set cost not some open ended money printing machine. Although of course you would be one of those happy to bankrupt the country with some folly or another as long as it was put up towards net zero. He cannot even be bothered to use the Internet to find out which airports and airlines in the SE fly to Manchester |
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Post by sheepy on Oct 3, 2023 9:46:47 GMT
Look at the map Einstein they are all interlinked, which don't get me wrong, seemed like a good idea at the time but not so much now, as we are said to be no longer in the EU and with costs out of any control which could obviously have been put into updating the original infrastructure. Obviously in future at a set cost not some open ended money printing machine. Although of course you would be one of those happy to bankrupt the country with some folly or another as long as it was put up towards net zero. He cannot even be bothered to use the Internet to find out which airports and airlines in the SE fly to Manchester He also repeats himself, as though it actually means anything! |
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Post by dappy on Oct 3, 2023 10:03:56 GMT
Look at the map Einstein they are all interlinked, which don't get me wrong, seemed like a good idea at the time but not so much now, as we are said to be no longer in the EU and with costs out of any control which could obviously have been put into updating the original infrastructure. Obviously in future at a set cost not some open ended money printing machine. Although of course you would be one of those happy to bankrupt the country with some folly or another as long as it was put up towards net zero. He cannot even be bothered to use the Internet to find out which airports and airlines in the SE fly to Manchester So prove me wrong Handyman. It’s a simple matter of fact so one of us is factually right and one wrong. As far as I can tell there are no direct flights between LCY and MAN. If you think there are, show me. |
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Post by dappy on Oct 3, 2023 10:05:27 GMT
He cannot even be bothered to use the Internet to find out which airports and airlines in the SE fly to Manchester He also repeats himself, as though it actually means anything! You seem to be evading a simple question Sheepy. How does a line between Euston and Manchester interlink with the Continental railway? |
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Post by sheepy on Oct 3, 2023 10:07:10 GMT
He also repeats himself, as though it actually means anything! You seem to be evading a simple question Sheepy. How does a line between Euston and Manchester interlink with the Continental railway? Which I have already answered several times, if you cannot read a map, that isn't my problem. It just makes you pointless. |
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Post by Handyman on Oct 3, 2023 10:21:04 GMT
If his brain and gumption were made from dynamite he would not have enough to blow his cap off, but his is good for a laugh  |
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Post by dappy on Oct 3, 2023 10:24:57 GMT
So Sheepy refuses to explain how a line from Euston to Manchester interlinks with the Continental rail network and Handyman refuses to admit that he is simply wrong in claiming that there are direct flights between LCY and MAN.
Both are now resorting to personal abuse in a vain attempt to cover their tracks.
Slightly tempted to ask them how many referendums there were in Greenland …..
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Post by sheepy on Oct 3, 2023 10:28:22 GMT
No sheepy pointed it out several times, now I am being trolled for pointing out.
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Post by Dan Dare on Oct 3, 2023 10:30:43 GMT
Sheepy won't know this but the short answer is that HS1 is not connected to the rest of the UK rail network for the simple reason that the government of the day declined to spend the money to create such a link. Consequently HS1 ends at St Pancras for passenger traffic and at Barking for freight, irrespective of what Sheepy's map tells him.
Strangely enough not a peep from the EU about this.
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Post by sheepy on Oct 3, 2023 10:31:52 GMT
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Post by dappy on Oct 3, 2023 10:36:14 GMT
Yep Dan
The fact is that according to Sheepy, the EU mandated the UK to build a high speed rail link to connect Manchester to Brussels yet didn’t care that the rail link they apparently mandated doesn’t connect people in Manchester to Brussels. How very odd…..
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Post by sheepy on Oct 3, 2023 10:36:47 GMT
Yep Dan The fact is that according to Sheepy, the EU mandated the UK to build a high speed rail link to connect Manchester to Brussels yet didn’t care that the rail link they apparently mandated doesn’t connect people in Manchester to Brussels. How very odd….. We are moving on now, this fraud needs a deep looking at. Apparently so I am informed was perpetrated amongst others by Gordon Brown. |
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