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Post by Bentley on Sept 21, 2023 12:26:53 GMT
We should accept people who are fleeing for their lives . We should not accept them unconditionally and in numbers that would harm the UK either socially or economically.
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Post by Red Rackham on Sept 21, 2023 12:35:04 GMT
So Broken The government are cutting back on Net Zero. That doesn’t bother me too much as it just puts us back with the followers instead of the leaders. As ever. But it sums up the UK today. 10 years of crap growth up to Covid, left us ill prepared and now out of Covid more rubbish growth. Right wingers even suggesting we’d be better off having a dictator (of the right flavour) than so weak a government that can’t lead more than keeping people happy for a few months. Who is going to tell Brits that we need to work even harder for even less reward to get out of the shit hall of debt we currently carry. The rich untouchable as they have convinced us that they would all just leave, which is believable now with the country getting worse every year. And all were focussing on is illegal immigrants that make up a couple of billion of our £2,445 Billion debt. Like that would solve anything. It’s just awful, and I have no suggestions left.  Zany. Without a doubt if there is one single factor that has changed this country for the worse it's mass immigration. This country has changed more in the past 20 years than it has in the past 200 years, and no one was asked. Indeed if anyone dared to raise so much as a quizzical eyebrow they were immediately pounced on and shouted down as far right racists and bigots, which pretty much remains the case. In recent years we have been blessed with Pakistani grooming gangs, Albanian drugs gangs, black knife and gun crime is off the scale link many inner city areas are little more than ghettoes which are practically out of bounds to white people, gangs of black youths steal from shops with impunity, we have hundreds of thousands of illegals crossing the channel and there are c10,000 foreign criminals in British prisons. We are in complete agreement ZG, the UK is indeed, broken. |
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Post by Dan Dare on Sept 21, 2023 12:36:23 GMT
Nobody arriving by small boat from the continent is fleeing for their life. They already did that by fleeing to Europe in the first place.
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Post by jonksy on Sept 21, 2023 13:00:45 GMT
Nobody arriving by small boat from the continent is fleeing for their life. They already did that by fleeing to Europe in the first place. And all of fighting age and the majority men and not females or kids. |
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Post by sandypine on Sept 21, 2023 14:37:41 GMT
No I'll tell you what's environmental vandalism, tens of thousands of trees being culled so Labour can keep their pledge to build build build on Greenbelt land, so the Councils can take their backhanders from property developers who want maximum returns building on Greenbelt, vandalizing our Green spaces while raking in Green taxes from mugs like us, how can they want to save the planet culling trees building on our Green spaces and turning countryside in to concrete jungles.
Don't be giving us the Labour bullshit, they've got mugs like you conned, if it was left to Labour build build build, there wont be any Green spaces left, just urban shitholes that you have to pay to use the roads, the more roads the more ULEZ 20 mph zones.
Housing 2023: Nandy brings green belt and Right to Buy into focus
On the green belt, Nandy called out politicians who are “so afraid of the taboo”, adding that a Labour government will “take on the taboo about what the green belt is and what it isn’t”.
Double Standard hypocrite's.
These decisions regarding where we HAVE TO build homes have nothing what so ever to do with U-Turning on policy which WE MUST implement, and for which there is no alternative, and which 98% of all credible scientists, climatologists and ecologists say we must implement before it is too late. We have to build homes - we do not have to have combustion engine vehicles, the entire industry was geared up for WHAT THE TORY GOVERNMENT HAD PLANNED, and which they have now spectacularly U-Turned on for purely political reasons, putting The Tory Party first before the country, before the plannett, even the car industry is very critical. Mark my words, this will not be good for Sunak WE do not have to build homes, we have to control our borders effectively; we do not have to have internal combustion engines but until something much better, more sustainable and cheaper comes along that is what we have; 98% is bollocks no matter which way you make it up; the problem has been that all political parties in Britain have been putting everyone else on the planet before the British electorate and if one is concerned that the 'net zero' promise is not being kept join the disappointed club as for 60 years every government of all colours have not kept a single promise on immigration despite having clear and unequivocal policies in their manifestos and being giving that mandate. With a bit of luck this will not be good for any of the Triumvirate parties and we can herald in a government in the main responsive to the wishes of the electorate. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2023 17:41:46 GMT
These decisions regarding where we HAVE TO build homes have nothing what so ever to do with U-Turning on policy which WE MUST implement, and for which there is no alternative, and which 98% of all credible scientists, climatologists and ecologists say we must implement before it is too late. We have to build homes - we do not have to have combustion engine vehicles, the entire industry was geared up for WHAT THE TORY GOVERNMENT HAD PLANNED, and which they have now spectacularly U-Turned on for purely political reasons, putting The Tory Party first before the country, before the plannett, even the car industry is very critical. Mark my words, this will not be good for Sunak WE do not have to build homes, we have to control our borders effectively; we do not have to have internal combustion engines but until something much better, more sustainable and cheaper comes along that is what we have; 98% is bollocks no matter which way you make it up; the problem has been that all political parties in Britain have been putting everyone else on the planet before the British electorate and if one is concerned that the 'net zero' promise is not being kept join the disappointed club as for 60 years every government of all colours have not kept a single promise on immigration despite having clear and unequivocal policies in their manifestos and being giving that mandate. With a bit of luck this will not be good for any of the Triumvirate parties and we can herald in a government in the main responsive to the wishes of the electorate. The scientific consensus that humans are altering the climate has passed 99.9%, according to research that strengthens the case for global action. The degree of scientific certainty about the impact of greenhouse gases is now similar to the level of agreement on evolution and plate tectonics, the authors say, based on a survey of nearly 90,000 climate-related studies. This means there is practically no doubt among experts that burning fossil fuels, such as oil, gas, coal, peat and trees, is heating the planet and causing more extreme weather. A previous survey in 2013 showed 97% of studies published between 1991 and 2012 supported the idea that human activities are altering Earth’s climate. |
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Post by jonksy on Sept 21, 2023 17:56:10 GMT
WE do not have to build homes, we have to control our borders effectively; we do not have to have internal combustion engines but until something much better, more sustainable and cheaper comes along that is what we have; 98% is bollocks no matter which way you make it up; the problem has been that all political parties in Britain have been putting everyone else on the planet before the British electorate and if one is concerned that the 'net zero' promise is not being kept join the disappointed club as for 60 years every government of all colours have not kept a single promise on immigration despite having clear and unequivocal policies in their manifestos and being giving that mandate. With a bit of luck this will not be good for any of the Triumvirate parties and we can herald in a government in the main responsive to the wishes of the electorate. The scientific consensus that humans are altering the climate has passed 99.9%, according to research that strengthens the case for global action. The degree of scientific certainty about the impact of greenhouse gases is now similar to the level of agreement on evolution and plate tectonics, the authors say, based on a survey of nearly 90,000 climate-related studies. This means there is practically no doubt among experts that burning fossil fuels, such as oil, gas, coal, peat and trees, is heating the planet and causing more extreme weather. A previous survey in 2013 showed 97% of studies published between 1991 and 2012 supported the idea that human activities are altering Earth’s climate. Total bollocks |
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Post by zanygame on Sept 21, 2023 18:46:07 GMT
Maybe you should stay there then and give us a frigging break. You know you'd miss me.  |
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Post by zanygame on Sept 21, 2023 18:47:37 GMT
Look at the threads on this forum. Most of them are either directly regarding, or are related to, illegal migration. Number of threads on our Australian style points system... I'd say that there are some people on this board who are obsessed by illegal migration. One even stated it's the biggest issue affecting the country. 😳 Really it's a deliberate issue caused by the government to distract from everything else, and judging by many on here it's succeeding very well. Maybe they are obsessed over illegal migrants because those arseholes are treated like gods whilst our own homeless have to make do with a piece of cardboard in a fucking shop doorway. And let's not even mention the rise in crime figures since blairs FOM. Perfectly true but a tiny mote on the problems facing the UK. |
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Post by zanygame on Sept 21, 2023 18:52:32 GMT
So Broken The government are cutting back on Net Zero. That doesn’t bother me too much as it just puts us back with the followers instead of the leaders. As ever. But it sums up the UK today. 10 years of crap growth up to Covid, left us ill prepared and now out of Covid more rubbish growth. Right wingers even suggesting we’d be better off having a dictator (of the right flavour) than so weak a government that can’t lead more than keeping people happy for a few months. Who is going to tell Brits that we need to work even harder for even less reward to get out of the shit hall of debt we currently carry. The rich untouchable as they have convinced us that they would all just leave, which is believable now with the country getting worse every year. And all were focussing on is illegal immigrants that make up a couple of billion of our £2,445 Billion debt. Like that would solve anything. It’s just awful, and I have no suggestions left. Zany. Without a doubt if there is one single factor that has changed this country for the worse it's mass immigration. This country has changed more in the past 20 years than it has in the past 200 years, and no one was asked. Indeed if anyone dared to raise so much as a quizzical eyebrow they were immediately pounced on and shouted down as far right racists and bigots, which pretty much remains the case. In recent years we have been blessed with Pakistani grooming gangs, Albanian drugs gangs, black knife and gun crime is off the scale link many inner city areas are little more than ghettoes which are practically out of bounds to white people, gangs of black youths steal from shops with impunity, we have hundreds of thousands of illegals crossing the channel and there are c10,000 foreign criminals in British prisons. We are in complete agreement ZG, the UK is indeed, broken. Strangely Red we agree more than you think. I have been anti immigration for years, not for your bigoted reasons I admit, more just too few free spaces left. However as I say against immigration. Of course that's totally different to the illegal migrants coming here who only represent a teeny tiny mote of our problems. |
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Post by zanygame on Sept 21, 2023 18:54:19 GMT
The scientific consensus that humans are altering the climate has passed 99.9%, according to research that strengthens the case for global action. The degree of scientific certainty about the impact of greenhouse gases is now similar to the level of agreement on evolution and plate tectonics, the authors say, based on a survey of nearly 90,000 climate-related studies. This means there is practically no doubt among experts that burning fossil fuels, such as oil, gas, coal, peat and trees, is heating the planet and causing more extreme weather. A previous survey in 2013 showed 97% of studies published between 1991 and 2012 supported the idea that human activities are altering Earth’s climate. Total bollocks That's told him, You and your scientific repostes. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Sept 21, 2023 18:59:41 GMT
Without a doubt if there is one single factor that has changed this country for the worse it's mass immigration. This country has changed more in the past 20 years than it has in the past 200 years, and no one was asked. Indeed if anyone dared to raise so much as a quizzical eyebrow they were immediately pounced on and shouted down as far right racists and bigots, which pretty much remains the case. In recent years we have been blessed with Pakistani grooming gangs, Albanian drugs gangs, black knife and gun crime is off the scale link many inner city areas are little more than ghettoes which are practically out of bounds to white people, gangs of black youths steal from shops with impunity, we have hundreds of thousands of illegals crossing the channel and there are c10,000 foreign criminals in British prisons. We are in complete agreement ZG, the UK is indeed, broken. Strangely Red we agree more than you think. I have been anti immigration for years, not for your bigoted reasons I admit, more just too few free spaces left. However as I say against immigration. Of course that's totally different to the illegal migrants coming here who only represent a teeny tiny mote of our problems. |
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Post by sandypine on Sept 21, 2023 19:00:12 GMT
WE do not have to build homes, we have to control our borders effectively; we do not have to have internal combustion engines but until something much better, more sustainable and cheaper comes along that is what we have; 98% is bollocks no matter which way you make it up; the problem has been that all political parties in Britain have been putting everyone else on the planet before the British electorate and if one is concerned that the 'net zero' promise is not being kept join the disappointed club as for 60 years every government of all colours have not kept a single promise on immigration despite having clear and unequivocal policies in their manifestos and being giving that mandate. With a bit of luck this will not be good for any of the Triumvirate parties and we can herald in a government in the main responsive to the wishes of the electorate. The scientific consensus that humans are altering the climate has passed 99.9%, according to research that strengthens the case for global action. The degree of scientific certainty about the impact of greenhouse gases is now similar to the level of agreement on evolution and plate tectonics, the authors say, based on a survey of nearly 90,000 climate-related studies. This means there is practically no doubt among experts that burning fossil fuels, such as oil, gas, coal, peat and trees, is heating the planet and causing more extreme weather. A previous survey in 2013 showed 97% of studies published between 1991 and 2012 supported the idea that human activities are altering Earth’s climate. Do you have a link to the 99.9% new research. The degree of certainty as regards AGW is no where near the same level of certainty and acceptance as either evolution and/or plate tectonics. Both are considerably older as theories than AGW and the theory of AGW is not whether it exists or not it is to what level it exists and that ranges from minute to catastrophic. Zany has linked to these polls which are basically not as described and Cook from 2013 has clearly stated he did not include some 68%, or thereabouts, of the papers as they expressed no position. I might as well say that if a person expressed no opinion on Brexit then he must support Brexit. You know that is bollocks and so do I, however that is no different to what Cook said yet you swallow it hook, line and sinker and even worse repeat it which shows how successful propaganda can be. Tell a lie, make it a big one and keep repeating it and people will believe it et voila. |
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Post by jonksy on Sept 21, 2023 19:01:52 GMT
Maybe they are obsessed over illegal migrants because those arseholes are treated like gods whilst our own homeless have to make do with a piece of cardboard in a fucking shop doorway. And let's not even mention the rise in crime figures since blairs FOM. Perfectly true but a tiny mote on the problems facing the UK. Its one of the largest problems the UK has along with the eco bollocks. |
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Post by jonksy on Sept 21, 2023 19:02:50 GMT
That's told him, You and your scientific repostes. At least I understand science. |
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