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Post by thomas on Sept 23, 2023 12:47:49 GMT
Keir Starmer says UK Labour doesn’t want to ‘diverge’ from EU if it wins power ‘There’s a lot more common ground than you might think,’ says UK opposition leader.
Labour leader Keir Starmer suggested his party does not “want to diverge” from the European Union if it wins power in the U.K.
In his latest comments on the U.K.'s post-Brexit relationship with the bloc, Starmer — whose party has a commanding lead over the governing Conservatives ahead of an expected 2024 election — said most of the "conflict" between Britain and Europe comes from the U.K. trying to "do different things to the rest of our EU partners."
And he talked up the need for "common ground" between the two sides.
In a video clip shared by Sky News Thursday, Starmer — who was speaking at the Global Progress Action Summit in Montreal last weekend — said: “Most of the conflict with the U.K. being outside of the [EU] arises insofar as the U.K. wants to diverge and do different things to the rest of our EU partners.
Obviously the more we share values, the more we share a future together, the less the conflict," he added. "And, actually, different ways of solving problems become available."
Starmer went on: "Actually, we don't want to diverge — we don't want to lower standards, we don't want to rip up environmental standards, working standards for people that work, food standards, and all the rest of it.”
As Labour leader, Starmer — who once campaigned for a second Brexit referendum — has been at pains to distance himself from more pro-Remain portions of his party. He has stressed that he accepts Brexit and repeatedly ruled out reversing the 2016 referendum outcome or attempting to rejoin the EU's customs union or single market.
But in a recent interview with the Financial Times, the Labour leader committed to pursuing a significant rewrite of the U.K.-EU Trade and Cooperation Agreement (TCA) if Labour wins the election, arguing that the Conservatives had failed to make the most of leaving the bloc.
His latest comments were seized on by the Conservatives. Foreign Secretary James Cleverly said on X, formerly Twitter: “Keir voted remain. Then he backed a second referendum. Then he didn’t. Now he wants to rejoin the EU in all but name. What does Labour stand for?
He definitely has that shifty look about him, eyes very close together, my old mum used to swear she was right about shifty characters. he is a dodgy character , who seems to have more faces than big ben on every topic. Will his lies catch up with him , or are people going to fall for his bullshit is the question ? |
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Post by sheepy on Sept 23, 2023 12:48:16 GMT
LOL is that it? I don't see no million people, just a few stragglers. That's right. One million people gathered in London in 2019. Nothing happened. So, Rejoiners have developed a dynamic new strategy - it's called waiting. We've waited, and now our numbers are 62%. It's a better strategy, Sheeps. Nothing happened because 17 million had already voted against them! Which bit of that didn't you get? |
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Post by Einhorn on Sept 23, 2023 12:50:14 GMT
That's right. One million people gathered in London in 2019. Nothing happened. So, Rejoiners have developed a dynamic new strategy - it's called waiting. We've waited and now our numbers are 62%. It's a better strategy, Sheeps. i wouldnt count your chickens just yet darling , as there just might be a lot of extreme nose holding at the next general election. No one likes the tories , but labour are even more unpalatable. Brexit , remain , scot indy and much more are still going to play a large part come voting time.
Going to be very interesting.
A Labour landslide isn't the best outcome for Rejoiners. Nor is a narrow victory for Labour. A Labour/Lib Dem coalition would be best. A dull, uninspiring Labour leader isn't a drawback for Rejoiners. |
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Post by Einhorn on Sept 23, 2023 12:51:47 GMT
That's right. One million people gathered in London in 2019. Nothing happened. So, Rejoiners have developed a dynamic new strategy - it's called waiting. We've waited, and now our numbers are 62%. It's a better strategy, Sheeps. Nothing happened because 17 million had already voted against them! Which bit of that didn't you get? Nobody disputes that. We're discussing today, and why Rejoiners see little point in marching. As I said, the thing has its own momentum (62%) Marches aren't necessary. |
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Post by thomas on Sept 23, 2023 12:52:23 GMT
That's right. One million people gathered in London in 2019. Nothing happened. So, Rejoiners have developed a dynamic new strategy - it's called waiting. We've waited, and now our numbers are 62%. It's a better strategy, Sheeps. Nothing happened because 17 million had already voted against them! Which bit of that didn't you get? couple of french people from hastings in the march sheepwash? Is that you and my mate dynamis? 
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Post by sheepy on Sept 23, 2023 12:53:32 GMT
Nothing happened because 17 million had already voted against them! Which bit of that didn't you get? Nobody disputes that. We're discussing today, and why Rejoiners see little point in marching. As I said, the thing has its own momentum (62%) Marches aren't necessary. Oh right, got anymore excuses, because some people might want to hear them, although the bumper book is getting a little thin on them. |
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Post by Einhorn on Sept 23, 2023 12:54:25 GMT
Nobody disputes that. We're discussing today, and why Rejoiners see little point in marching. As I said, the thing has its own momentum (62%) Marches aren't necessary. Oh right, got anymore excuses, because some people might want to hear them, although the bumper book is getting a little thin on them. No more, Sheeps. But, then again, no more are needed. |
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Post by sheepy on Sept 23, 2023 12:55:57 GMT
Nothing happened because 17 million had already voted against them! Which bit of that didn't you get? couple of french people from hastings in the march sheepwash? Is that you and my mate dynamis?
Damn you caught us. Any English on the bus them in? |
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Post by thomas on Sept 23, 2023 12:57:49 GMT
i wouldnt count your chickens just yet darling , as there just might be a lot of extreme nose holding at the next general election. No one likes the tories , but labour are even more unpalatable. Brexit , remain , scot indy and much more are still going to play a large part come voting time.
Going to be very interesting.
A Labour landslide isn't the best outcome for Rejoiners. Nor is a narrow victory for Labour. A Labour/Lib Dem coalition would be best. A dull, uninspiring Labour leader isn't a drawback for Rejoiners. i didnt say it is. Im saying dont count your chickens that you are going to rejoin/BRINO under either labour or some sort of coalition. Not sure the lib dems are going to bring that many mps to the table. professor curtice had them challenging seriously in potentially 22 constituencies.
The snp prediction is up and down , but they look to be still on course to being the third party at the next westmisnter election rather than the libs. Wouldnt that be funny if the pro european snp , holding labours hand , took engerlund back into the EU either by BRINO or openly?
If the dice falls correct , the snp could seriously wipe labour out for all eternity if that happens , as i dont think the anglo electorate would ever forgive labour for joining with the hated scottish nationalists to sell engerlund out to brussells.
As i said , interesting stuff for us political geeks. Even if you win , the fall out could make it a pyrrhic victory.
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Post by thomas on Sept 23, 2023 12:58:52 GMT
couple of french people from hastings in the march sheepwash? Is that you and my mate dynamis?
Damn you caught us. Any English on the bus them in? no mate. They are all up in rutherglen campaigning for labour. |
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Post by Einhorn on Sept 23, 2023 13:00:13 GMT
A Labour landslide isn't the best outcome for Rejoiners. Nor is a narrow victory for Labour. A Labour/Lib Dem coalition would be best. A dull, uninspiring Labour leader isn't a drawback for Rejoiners. i didnt say it is. Im saying dont count your chickens that you are going to rejoin/BRINO under either labour or some sort of coalition. Not sure the lib dems are going to bring that many mps to the table. professor curtice had them challenging seriously in potentially 22 constituencies.
The snp prediction is up and down , but they look to be still on course to being the third party at the next westmisnter election rather than the libs. Wouldnt that be funny if the pro european snp , holding labours hand , took engerlund back into the EU either by BRINO or openly?
If the dice falls correct , the snp could seriously wipe labour out for all eternity if that happens , as i dont think the anglo electorate would ever forgive labour for joining with the hated scottish nationalists to sell engerlund out to brussells.
As i said , interesting stuff for us political geeks. Even if you win , the fall out could make it a pyrrhic victory.
Rightyo. |
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Post by thomas on Sept 23, 2023 13:06:14 GMT
i didnt say it is. Im saying dont count your chickens that you are going to rejoin/BRINO under either labour or some sort of coalition. Not sure the lib dems are going to bring that many mps to the table. professor curtice had them challenging seriously in potentially 22 constituencies.
The snp prediction is up and down , but they look to be still on course to being the third party at the next westmisnter election rather than the libs. Wouldnt that be funny if the pro european snp , holding labours hand , took engerlund back into the EU either by BRINO or openly?
If the dice falls correct , the snp could seriously wipe labour out for all eternity if that happens , as i dont think the anglo electorate would ever forgive labour for joining with the hated scottish nationalists to sell engerlund out to brussells.
As i said , interesting stuff for us political geeks. Even if you win , the fall out could make it a pyrrhic victory.
Rightyo. sorry. I didnt realise your eyes were on the prize so much all debate on this debating forum was nothing more than mere tittle tattle. Is that what you really think ? Some lab lib coalition wins the next general election , gives some sort of BRINO or rejoin openly , ....the end? 
good luck with that. Sounds like more stuff for the burds from remainers.
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Post by thomas on Sept 23, 2023 13:08:02 GMT
ive just saw this after reading darlings latest offering , and coffee is all over the pc.
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Post by thomas on Sept 23, 2023 13:09:35 GMT
couple of french people from hastings in the march sheepwash? Is that you and my mate dynamis?
Damn you caught us. Any English on the bus them in?  |
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Post by Einhorn on Sept 23, 2023 13:10:05 GMT
sorry. I didnt realise your eyes were on the prize so much all debate on this debating forum was nothing more than mere tittle tattle. Is that what you really think ? Some lab lib coalition wins the next general election , gives some sort of BRINO or rejoin openly , ....the end?
good luck with that. Sounds like more stuff for the burds from remainers.
Wise words, T. |
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