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Post by patman post on Sept 22, 2023 19:18:43 GMT
Sorry but I asked you what " your problems" are with the new EU trading deal. I know that the EU have a full time propaganda arm that's trying to rubbish Brexit. What have YOU found that's now worse after leaving the EU? Foreign cheeses and deli meatsae now costing 30-40 percent more — all because they can’t be ordered over the phone by my local store and delivered on one palette. Now each discrete item has to be individually boxed with its own paperwork. If deli items are treated in this fashion, what else is being exorbitantly pricedand even beyond reach of many U.K. residents? Don’t pretend that U.K. industrial cheddar and chemically induced bacon and ham are as good or even as nutritious… |
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Post by Pacifico on Sept 22, 2023 21:26:42 GMT
Sorry but I asked you what " your problems" are with the new EU trading deal. I know that the EU have a full time propaganda arm that's trying to rubbish Brexit. What have YOU found that's now worse after leaving the EU? — all because they can’t be ordered over the phone by my local store and delivered on one palette. Now each discrete item has to be individually boxed with its own paperwork. If deli items are treated in this fashion, what else is being exorbitantly pricedand even beyond reach of many U.K. residents? Don’t pretend that U.K. industrial cheddar and chemically induced bacon and ham are as good or even as nutritious… wonder why they are costing more?..  Since 2019, the CPI measure of food prices has risen by 19.9% in the UK, 21.1% in the euro area, and 24.1% in the EU. |
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Post by steppenwolf on Sept 23, 2023 6:29:36 GMT
Sorry but I asked you what " your problems" are with the new EU trading deal. I know that the EU have a full time propaganda arm that's trying to rubbish Brexit. What have YOU found that's now worse after leaving the EU? Everything listed in the link, Snugs. I'm very civic-minded. So you can't think of anything. Just as i thought. |
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Post by Einhorn on Sept 23, 2023 10:27:03 GMT
Everything listed in the link, Snugs. I'm very civic-minded. So you can't think of anything. Just as i thought. I thought of more than 800 things, Snugs. 62% |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2023 11:01:28 GMT
So you can't think of anything. Just as i thought. , Snugs. Did you really? Not copied and pasted, then. I apologise for thinking badly of you, Darling. |
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Post by Einhorn on Sept 23, 2023 11:03:02 GMT
I thought of more than 800 things, Snugs. Did you really? Not copied and pasted, then. I apologise for thinking badly of you, Darling. I briefly considered rewriting the 30,000 words (plus) in my own words, but rejected the idea as impractical, Ned. |
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Post by sheepy on Sept 23, 2023 12:21:44 GMT
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Post by thomas on Sept 23, 2023 12:35:54 GMT
seems to be loads on the pictures im seeing on twitter sheepy. Is this them getting you souped up for when starmer wins the election and imposes his brexit in name only?
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Post by Einhorn on Sept 23, 2023 12:37:24 GMT
Bit like Farage's march for Brexit, then. I suppose, Rejoiners are aware that the thing has acquired its own momentum, what with their numbers now being 62%. Even if that weren't the case, I'm sure the lesson has been learnt that marches don't achieve much after one million Rejoiners assembled in London in 2019. The only march that matters will be the march to the polling stations in the next election and the inevitable second referendum. news.sky.com/story/one-million-people-march-in-london-to-demand-second-eu-referendum-11673542 |
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Post by thomas on Sept 23, 2023 12:40:14 GMT
Keir Starmer says UK Labour doesn’t want to ‘diverge’ from EU if it wins power ‘There’s a lot more common ground than you might think,’ says UK opposition leader.
Labour leader Keir Starmer suggested his party does not “want to diverge” from the European Union if it wins power in the U.K.
In his latest comments on the U.K.'s post-Brexit relationship with the bloc, Starmer — whose party has a commanding lead over the governing Conservatives ahead of an expected 2024 election — said most of the "conflict" between Britain and Europe comes from the U.K. trying to "do different things to the rest of our EU partners."
And he talked up the need for "common ground" between the two sides.
In a video clip shared by Sky News Thursday, Starmer — who was speaking at the Global Progress Action Summit in Montreal last weekend — said: “Most of the conflict with the U.K. being outside of the [EU] arises insofar as the U.K. wants to diverge and do different things to the rest of our EU partners.
Obviously the more we share values, the more we share a future together, the less the conflict," he added. "And, actually, different ways of solving problems become available."
Starmer went on: "Actually, we don't want to diverge — we don't want to lower standards, we don't want to rip up environmental standards, working standards for people that work, food standards, and all the rest of it.”
As Labour leader, Starmer — who once campaigned for a second Brexit referendum — has been at pains to distance himself from more pro-Remain portions of his party. He has stressed that he accepts Brexit and repeatedly ruled out reversing the 2016 referendum outcome or attempting to rejoin the EU's customs union or single market.
But in a recent interview with the Financial Times, the Labour leader committed to pursuing a significant rewrite of the U.K.-EU Trade and Cooperation Agreement (TCA) if Labour wins the election, arguing that the Conservatives had failed to make the most of leaving the bloc.
His latest comments were seized on by the Conservatives. Foreign Secretary James Cleverly said on X, formerly Twitter: “Keir voted remain. Then he backed a second referendum. Then he didn’t. Now he wants to rejoin the EU in all but name. What does Labour stand for?
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Post by sheepy on Sept 23, 2023 12:41:11 GMT
Bit like Farage's march for Brexit, then. I suppose, Rejoiners are aware that the thing has acquired its own momentum, what with their numbers now being 62%. Even if that weren't the case, I'm sure the lesson has been learnt that marches don't achieve much after one million Rejoiners assembled in London in 2019. The only march that matters will be the march to the polling stations in the next election and the inevitable second referendum. news.sky.com/story/one-million-people-march-in-london-to-demand-second-eu-referendum-11673542LOL is that it? I don't see no million people, just a few stragglers. |
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Post by Einhorn on Sept 23, 2023 12:43:12 GMT
Bit like Farage's march for Brexit, then. I suppose, Rejoiners are aware that the thing has acquired its own momentum, what with their numbers now being 62%. Even if that weren't the case, I'm sure the lesson has been learnt that marches don't achieve much after one million Rejoiners assembled in London in 2019. The only march that matters will be the march to the polling stations in the next election and the inevitable second referendum. news.sky.com/story/one-million-people-march-in-london-to-demand-second-eu-referendum-11673542LOL is that it? I don't see no million people, just a few stragglers. That's right. One million people gathered in London in 2019. Nothing happened. So, Rejoiners have developed a dynamic new strategy - it's called waiting. We've waited, and now our numbers are 62%. It's a better strategy, Sheeps. |
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Post by thomas on Sept 23, 2023 12:43:28 GMT
Bit like Farage's march for Brexit, then. I suppose, Rejoiners are aware that the thing has acquired its own momentum, what with their numbers now being 62%. Even if that weren't the case, I'm sure the lesson has been learnt that marches don't achieve much after one million Rejoiners assembled in London in 2019. The only march that matters will be the march to the polling stations in the next election and the inevitable second referendum. news.sky.com/story/one-million-people-march-in-london-to-demand-second-eu-referendum-11673542LOL is that it? I don't see no million people, just a few stragglers. its inarguable though that labour look set to win the next general election sheepy , and that starmer is still pursuing his ill fated BRINO policy. Hes almost been very open about it recently as he gains more confidence. |
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Post by thomas on Sept 23, 2023 12:46:13 GMT
LOL is that it? I don't see no million people, just a few stragglers. That's right. One million people gathered in London in 2019. Nothing happened. So, Rejoiners have developed a dynamic new strategy - it's called waiting. We've waited and now our numbers are 62%. It's a better strategy, Sheeps. i wouldnt count your chickens just yet darling , as there just might be a lot of extreme nose holding at the next general election. No one likes the tories , but labour are even more unpalatable. Brexit , remain , scot indy and much more are still going to play a large part come voting time.
Going to be very interesting.
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Post by sheepy on Sept 23, 2023 12:46:29 GMT
Keir Starmer says UK Labour doesn’t want to ‘diverge’ from EU if it wins power ‘There’s a lot more common ground than you might think,’ says UK opposition leader.
Labour leader Keir Starmer suggested his party does not “want to diverge” from the European Union if it wins power in the U.K.
In his latest comments on the U.K.'s post-Brexit relationship with the bloc, Starmer — whose party has a commanding lead over the governing Conservatives ahead of an expected 2024 election — said most of the "conflict" between Britain and Europe comes from the U.K. trying to "do different things to the rest of our EU partners."
And he talked up the need for "common ground" between the two sides.
In a video clip shared by Sky News Thursday, Starmer — who was speaking at the Global Progress Action Summit in Montreal last weekend — said: “Most of the conflict with the U.K. being outside of the [EU] arises insofar as the U.K. wants to diverge and do different things to the rest of our EU partners.
Obviously the more we share values, the more we share a future together, the less the conflict," he added. "And, actually, different ways of solving problems become available."
Starmer went on: "Actually, we don't want to diverge — we don't want to lower standards, we don't want to rip up environmental standards, working standards for people that work, food standards, and all the rest of it.”
As Labour leader, Starmer — who once campaigned for a second Brexit referendum — has been at pains to distance himself from more pro-Remain portions of his party. He has stressed that he accepts Brexit and repeatedly ruled out reversing the 2016 referendum outcome or attempting to rejoin the EU's customs union or single market.
But in a recent interview with the Financial Times, the Labour leader committed to pursuing a significant rewrite of the U.K.-EU Trade and Cooperation Agreement (TCA) if Labour wins the election, arguing that the Conservatives had failed to make the most of leaving the bloc.
His latest comments were seized on by the Conservatives. Foreign Secretary James Cleverly said on X, formerly Twitter: “Keir voted remain. Then he backed a second referendum. Then he didn’t. Now he wants to rejoin the EU in all but name. What does Labour stand for?
He definitely has that shifty look about him, eyes very close together, my old mum used to swear she was right about shifty characters. |
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