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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2023 13:52:35 GMT
I agree but not all people see it that way. For a woman and most men not being able to give your kids a proper meal or buy them the little niceties in life is an horrendous place to be and I speak from experience and they do not behave in a way that is expected.. And before you say it, which you will, "if they can't afford xyz they should teach their children not to expect it" or some such crap. It is extremely hard, nowadays, to see your kids in a world where most of their age group have nice things that are denied to you. Years ago it did not matter so much because everyone had nothing. FFs are you saying that there has never been rich or poor in our country rr? No, what part of my post makes you think that? |
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Post by jonksy on Sept 26, 2023 14:02:38 GMT
FFs are you saying that there has never been rich or poor in our country rr? No, what part of my post makes you think that? All of it. How much is blairs empire worth these days? What has he ever done for the poor in our society? He is typical socialist with short arms and deep pockets. |
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Post by Orac on Sept 26, 2023 14:04:58 GMT
I believe that's the current policy? You have missed the point of the thread then, the police are not prosecuting shoplifters and for that and other things, they are accused of being woke, according to Braverman. Presumably, you agree that not prosecuting shoplifters is bad policy? |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2023 14:09:57 GMT
You have missed the point of the thread then, the police are not prosecuting shoplifters and for that and other things, they are accused of being woke, according to Braverman. Presumably, you agree that not prosecuting shoplifters is bad policy? I have never disagreed with it. I have said and I stand by it that some shoplifters need more 'understanding' that other professional shoplifters, presumably you agree with that, don't you? |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2023 14:17:25 GMT
No, what part of my post makes you think that? All of it. How much is blairs empire worth these days? What has he ever done for the poor in our society? He is typical socialist with short arms and deep pockets. There have always been rich and poor in this country, yes I agree, yes I agree, yes I agree, yes I agree, yes I agree, yes I agree, yes I agree, yes I agree, yes I agree, just in case you missed it or would like to misinterpret it. Years ago we, the poorer in society, were told by the wealthy and powerful that they were superior, deserved their wealth and we were subservient to them, that's changed over the last few decades and people are beginning to wonder why certain people can fritter away millions and they have no food in the fridge ( I know if they are poor why have they got a fridge) or be able to pay their bills and are told they need to work harder by those that have, probably, never done a hard days graft in their lives. Attitudes have changed. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2023 14:22:02 GMT
No, what part of my post makes you think that? All of it. How much is blairs empire worth these days? What has he ever done for the poor in our society? He is typical socialist with short arms and deep pockets. I think one issue here is that society isn't broken up into rich and poor, at least not anymore. The Third Way, which Blair pushed, and all for money, is only interested in appeasing the rich and controlling the masses through the group networks that operate under this top-down system. All it takes is a little gesturing to win over the loony left.
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Post by jonksy on Sept 26, 2023 14:30:25 GMT
All of it. How much is blairs empire worth these days? What has he ever done for the poor in our society? He is typical socialist with short arms and deep pockets. There have always been rich and poor in this country, yes I agree, yes I agree, yes I agree, yes I agree, yes I agree, yes I agree, yes I agree, yes I agree, yes I agree, just in case you missed it or would like to misinterpret it. Years ago we, the poorer in society, were told by the wealthy and powerful that they were superior, deserved their wealth and we were subservient to them, that's changed over the last few decades and people are beginning to wonder why certain people can fritter away millions and they have no food in the fridge ( I know if they are poor why have they got a fridge) or be able to pay their bills and are told they need to work harder by those that have, probably, never done a hard days graft in their lives. Attitudes have changed. Total bollocks rr. Isn't socialism about everyone being equal? It seems some are more equal than others. I gave blair as an example but it applies to all the arseholes who make up labour. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2023 15:19:00 GMT
There have always been rich and poor in this country, yes I agree, yes I agree, yes I agree, yes I agree, yes I agree, yes I agree, yes I agree, yes I agree, yes I agree, just in case you missed it or would like to misinterpret it. Years ago we, the poorer in society, were told by the wealthy and powerful that they were superior, deserved their wealth and we were subservient to them, that's changed over the last few decades and people are beginning to wonder why certain people can fritter away millions and they have no food in the fridge ( I know if they are poor why have they got a fridge) or be able to pay their bills and are told they need to work harder by those that have, probably, never done a hard days graft in their lives. Attitudes have changed. Total bollocks rr. Isn't socialism about everyone being equal? It seems some are more equal than others. I gave blair as an example but it applies to all the arseholes who make up labour. No, that's communism, get your isms right. |
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Post by Bentley on Sept 26, 2023 15:26:40 GMT
You posted this you moron. “ I am not disputing the fact that a mother who steals to feed her kids is a criminal, never have, never will but people like you cannot understand that people who want such people treated with sympathy and not severity do not ask the same of professional shoplifters”ukpoliticsdebate.boards.net/post/146740/threadWhich effectively states that you don’t understand how a mother steals under mitigating circumstances is not treated the same as a professional shop lifter. Which was pointed out to you by fair society in the first place . Then me ”You….. ”I am not disputing the fact that a mother who steals to feed her kids is a criminal, never have, never will but people like you cannot understand that people who want such people treated with sympathy and not severity do not ask the same of professional shoplifters.“ Me..You are asking why professional shoplifters are not treated with the same sympathy as mothers who steal , you numpty “ then I explained to your supporter ABrown “I am not disputing the fact that a mother who steals to feed her kids is a criminal, never have, never will but people like you cannot understand that people who want such people treated with sympathy( ie the mothers who steal ) and not severity do not ask the same of professional shoplifters.“( do not ask for the same sympathy for professional shoplifters ). The meaning is clear . Whether he meant that is up to him to tell us .” I was easy to find . One person pointed it out , another person made excuses for you . It was explained 3 times while you merely played the obtuse imbecile debate method . Which is about your level of debate . “ I am not disputing the fact that a mother who steals to feed her kids is a criminal, never have, never will but people like you cannot understand that people who want such people treated with sympathy and not severity do not ask the same of professional shoplifters”
I have quite clearly stated that a mother who steals to feed her kids is a criminal. I have also stated quite clearly that people who ask for sympathy for such mothers do not ask the same as professional criminals. Some people on this board are accusing people like me who has sympathy for mothers caught in very difficult circumstances are therefore saying that all shoplifters should be treated with sympathy and I explained quite clearly this is not true. To put it even plainer, people who ask for sympathy for mothers in difficult situations do not ask for sympathy for professional shoplifters. Stuff you insults were the sun don't shine and learn to read. Nope . You are saying that “ people like me “ will never understand why shoplifters in difficult circumstances are not treated like professional shoplifters . Read it you moron , that is what you said. Making two words bigger doesn’t alter that . The inference is that you are criticising me for not wanting them to be treated equally ie you think that they should be Instead if accepting it and saying that you didn’t mean it , you post waffle , denials and call people liars . I’ve pulled you up when you have lied before , so you seem to be a serial liar who posts projection when caught . Otherwise simply proof read your waffle so that it actually says the thing you believe . |
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Post by Fairsociety on Sept 26, 2023 16:02:30 GMT
bloody hell is rr sill trying to convince himself and us that he didn't really mean what he said.
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Post by Bentley on Sept 26, 2023 16:08:24 GMT
bloody hell is rr sill trying to convince himself and us that he didn't really mean what he said. It’s worse . He is trying to convince himself that he never said what he said . |
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Post by Fairsociety on Sept 26, 2023 16:17:19 GMT
bloody hell is rr sill trying to convince himself and us that he didn't really mean what he said. It’s worse . He is trying to convince himself that he never said what he said . he's starting to sound like Starmer. |
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Post by jonksy on Sept 26, 2023 18:57:10 GMT
She is right. At last we have someone willing to say it on a vey public stage but whether enough others who have the power will follow her lead and actually do something about the problem remains to be seen.
The 'dream' of multicultural Britain is dead: Suella Braverman warns West faces 'existential' threat from uncontrolled immigration as she says UK is living with consequences of people failing to 'integrate' - in US speech demanding asylum rules overhaul.
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Post by wapentake on Sept 26, 2023 22:47:16 GMT
She is right. At last we have someone willing to say it on a vey public stage but whether enough others who have the power will follow her lead and actually do something about the problem remains to be seen.
The 'dream' of multicultural Britain is dead: Suella Braverman warns West faces 'existential' threat from uncontrolled immigration as she says UK is living with consequences of people failing to 'integrate' - in US speech demanding asylum rules overhaul.
Indeed and those tempted by Starmers propaganda should remember that he’s just Blair’s dummy and behind the the scenes that venal ventriloquist is working him and much of what we face now is down to that man and his grinning promise to change the face of this country forever. |
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Post by jonksy on Sept 27, 2023 4:27:22 GMT
She is right. At last we have someone willing to say it on a vey public stage but whether enough others who have the power will follow her lead and actually do something about the problem remains to be seen.
The 'dream' of multicultural Britain is dead: Suella Braverman warns West faces 'existential' threat from uncontrolled immigration as she says UK is living with consequences of people failing to 'integrate' - in US speech demanding asylum rules overhaul.
Indeed and those tempted by Starmers propaganda should remember that he’s just Blair’s dummy and behind the the scenes that venal ventriloquist is working him and much of what we face now is down to that man and his grinning promise to change the face of this country forever. I have often wondered how far blair has to push his hand up starmers rectum to make him work..Starmer is just a glove puppet. |
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