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Post by Pacifico on Sept 22, 2023 10:59:31 GMT
Well thats because many of them fled after the end of Empire.. Which might have something to do with many of them having been an oppressor class, which can hardly be said about the black minority living here. In fact in Kenya according to one learned book on the history of the British empire, at the time of the Mau Mau insurgency, one white resident working for the colonial authorities was known for ripping out the testicles of prisoners with pliers and forcing them to eat them. I sure bet he fled before the blacks got their country back, lol. Or perhaps its simply because they were aware of the realities of Africa and knew what independence was going to lead to in those countries. |
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Post by Orac on Sept 22, 2023 11:18:00 GMT
What was months before? The media hysterics and the corporate support campaign started after the death of FloydMost UK people's understanding of BLM came from news coverage of events in the United States - ie the death of Floyd and the consequent months of arson, looting, assault, murder and vandalism Are you one of those people who believe that footballers in the UK taking the Knee, were actually doing it because they thought the above was the right thing to do ^^^ In some cases yes. In many cases, it was social control applied to people who were vulnerable in various ways - or a bit thick. |
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Post by Fairsociety on Sept 22, 2023 11:30:15 GMT
What was months before? The media hysterics and the corporate support campaign started after the death of FloydMost UK people's understanding of BLM came from news coverage of events in the United States - ie the death of Floyd and the consequent months of arson, looting, assault, murder and vandalism I followed that period of time, and the old BLM organisation was inactive, the death of Floyd gradually brought it back to life. __"ie the death of Floyd and the consequent months of arson, looting, assault, murder and vandalism"__ Thanks for that, yes they are the reactions that gradually built up in the weeks following Floyd's death. Are you one of those people who believe that footballers in the UK taking the Knee, were actually doing it because they thought the above was the right thing to do ^^^ Most of us knew where all the money would go, and most of us were right.
Swindling people out of money for a lost cause, they can't help themselves, the World owes them, any other organization who blatantly took money from genuine people and businesses, then use that money to buy properties and luxuries to enhance their own lives would be locked up now.
BLM have got away with fraud by false representation, and I bet not one of them will see the inside of prison for that offense, if they were White they'd be banged up.
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Post by Fairsociety on Sept 22, 2023 11:32:53 GMT
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Post by Bentley on Sept 22, 2023 12:50:53 GMT
What are you waffling about ? I never said that “anyone of importance or any organisation has VERBALLY supported the nonsense of the BLM organisation in America “ It has nothing to do with the post your have replied to. Please address the my post and not the voices in your head . If you can’t do that then don’t waste my time Please refrain from posting the dishonest absolute garbage you insist on posting to me. Please refrain from posting ignorant waffling that reflects your inability to think outside of your own bias. If you can do that for me then I’ll oblige. |
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Post by Bentley on Sept 22, 2023 13:00:11 GMT
What are you waffling about ? I never said that “anyone of importance or any organisation has VERBALLY supported the nonsense of the BLM organisation in America “ It has nothing to do with the post your have replied to. Please address the my post and not the voices in your head . If you can’t do that then don’t waste my time Here we go again, I don't know why I waste my time with your posts. You made a silly assumption that Starmer did support the nonsense of BLM in America, I will ignore any reply you make because you are incapable of honest debate. Bye. As I said . Lefties like you just say” it wasn’t that BLM”. As Starmer did not specify what brand of BLM that he took the knee to then we must assume that it was a broad acknowledgement of all kinds of the brand . As the the recents protests were about an imported grievance about an incident in the US involving a criminal dying after being brutalised by police then anyone with a brain cell would connect Starmer with that . You are not intelligent or subtle enough to pull off this kind of dishonesty. If Starmer took the knee to a general concept of “ black lives matter “ then he is still an idiot . I explained that in an earlier post. I can’t keep explaining simple concepts to even simpler minds . |
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Post by Bentley on Sept 22, 2023 13:01:19 GMT
Wait for a bit and a leftie will tell you that they were the wrong kind of BLM . |
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Post by jonksy on Sept 22, 2023 13:10:29 GMT
Wait for a bit and a leftie will tell you that they were the wrong kind of BLM . As Red stated that picture of starmer on one knee will haunt the obnoxious prick to the grave. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2023 22:12:30 GMT
Which might have something to do with many of them having been an oppressor class, which can hardly be said about the black minority living here. In fact in Kenya according to one learned book on the history of the British empire, at the time of the Mau Mau insurgency, one white resident working for the colonial authorities was known for ripping out the testicles of prisoners with pliers and forcing them to eat them. I sure bet he fled before the blacks got their country back, lol. Or perhaps its simply because they were aware of the realities of Africa and knew what independence was going to lead to in those countries. Every country is different. South Africa and Zimbabwe (formerly Rhodesia) both were ruled by white minority racist regimes. Yet both went in very different directions. Robert Mugabe and Nelson Mandela were worlds apart. The former a freedom fighter who morphed into a tyrant. And did what tyrants often do. Deflected popular discontent by turning it against minorities, in this case the whites. And they were an easy target because of their own former association with white oppression and thus way too easy for a bad actor like Mugabe to demonise. South Africa on the other hand remains a democracy, where the powers that be accept the white minority which formally oppressed the black majority as integral parts of the community, with full and equal rights. Which is a far better situation for them than the black majority ever had under the former white racist regimes. In some ways Kenya resembled these two nations, in the sense that it had a significant white minority of settlers and their descendants. But many of these had obtained the most productive farmlands by de facto theft and evictions, and quite a few of them were complicit in the grotesque brutality meted out to prisoners by the white colonial authorities. Consequently, it is unsurprising that most of them thought it expedient to leave. Wherever there was a significant white minority, it tended formerly to have acted as a ruling racist oppressor class, which was bound to run the risk of rebounding on them when they lost power. South Africa stands out as something of a shining example of hope - comparatively speaking - where the black majority are treating the white minority with far more generosity and equality of rights than they ever got themselves when the white minority monopolised all power. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2023 22:14:05 GMT
Wait for a bit and a leftie will tell you that they were the wrong kind of BLM . Wait for a bit and a right wing de facto racist will show up talking shite. Oh, I see he already has. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2023 22:19:06 GMT
Wait for a bit and a leftie will tell you that they were the wrong kind of BLM . As Red stated that picture of starmer on one knee will haunt the obnoxious prick to the grave. I am surprised you quote the Mail so often. The Sun seems to me to be more your intellectual level. Or perhaps the Beano |
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Post by Ripley on Sept 22, 2023 22:28:45 GMT
Or perhaps its simply because they were aware of the realities of Africa and knew what independence was going to lead to in those countries. Every country is different. South Africa and Zimbabwe (formerly Rhodesia) both were ruled by white minority racist regimes. Yet both went in very different directions. Robert Mugabe and Nelson Mandela were worlds apart. The former a freedom fighter who morphed into a tyrant. And did what tyrants often do. Deflected popular discontent by turning it against minorities, in this case the whites. And they were an easy target because of their own former association with white oppression and thus way too easy for a bad actor like Mugabe to demonise. South Africa on the other hand remains a democracy, where the powers that be accept the white minority which formally oppressed the black majority as integral parts of the community, with full and equal rights. Which is a far better situation for them than the black majority ever had under the former white racist regimes. In some ways Kenya resembled these two nations, in the sense that it had a significant white minority of settlers and their descendants. But many of these had obtained the most productive farmlands by de facto theft and evictions, and quite a few of them were complicit in the grotesque brutality meted out to prisoners by the white colonial authorities. Consequently, it is unsurprising that most of them thought it expedient to leave. Wherever there was a significant white minority, it tended formerly to have acted as a ruling racist oppressor class, which was bound to run the risk of rebounding on them when they lost power. South Africa stands out as something of a shining example of hope - comparatively speaking - where the black majority are treating the white minority with far more generosity and equality of rights than they ever got themselves when the white minority monopolised all power. There are some white South Africans who don't think they are being treated equally regarding employment and business opportunities, nor do they feel safe living there. And have you heard of Julius Malema's Economic Freedom Fighters? Malema is a South African political figure who regularly incites violence against the white population. www.foxnews.com/media/south-african-political-leader-calls-violence-against-white-citizens-rally-kill-boer-farmer |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2023 22:32:47 GMT
I followed that period of time, and the old BLM organisation was inactive, the death of Floyd gradually brought it back to life. __"ie the death of Floyd and the consequent months of arson, looting, assault, murder and vandalism"__ Thanks for that, yes they are the reactions that gradually built up in the weeks following Floyd's death. Are you one of those people who believe that footballers in the UK taking the Knee, were actually doing it because they thought the above was the right thing to do ^^^ Most of us knew where all the money would go, and most of us were right.
Swindling people out of money for a lost cause, they can't help themselves, the World owes them, any other organization who blatantly took money from genuine people and businesses, then use that money to buy properties and luxuries to enhance their own lives would be locked up now.
BLM have got away with fraud by false representation, and I bet not one of them will see the inside of prison for that offense, if they were White they'd be banged up.
Your last sentence exposes you for the racist you are, with that bullshit about white people being more likely to be banged up than black people. When in fact all the statistics say the exact opposite. But as is common for white racists, you like to imagine that you are the oppressed ones when all the evidence suggests otherwise. And you make typically false assumptions about the meaning of black lives mattering. You assume through your racist goggles that what is being said is that only black lives matter or that black lives matter more than anyone else's. Which of course is loaded nonsense informed by racist assumptions. Because no one has actually said that. You made it up. You see, the idea of black lives mattering is nothing more nor less than saying and thinking that black lives matter just as much as anyone else's, when we keep seeing evidence that some don't think so. That you have a problem with the very notion that black lives matter as much as anyone else's speaks volumes about you. Because deep down, you think that black lives don't matter as much as white ones. And the more you try and deny it, the more obvious it is. That you yourself are a racist. |
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Post by Pacifico on Sept 23, 2023 7:15:26 GMT
Or perhaps its simply because they were aware of the realities of Africa and knew what independence was going to lead to in those countries. Every country is different. South Africa and Zimbabwe (formerly Rhodesia) both were ruled by white minority racist regimes. Yet both went in very different directions. Robert Mugabe and Nelson Mandela were worlds apart. The former a freedom fighter who morphed into a tyrant. And did what tyrants often do. Deflected popular discontent by turning it against minorities, in this case the whites. And they were an easy target because of their own former association with white oppression and thus way too easy for a bad actor like Mugabe to demonise. South Africa on the other hand remains a democracy, where the powers that be accept the white minority which formally oppressed the black majority as integral parts of the community, with full and equal rights. Which is a far better situation for them than the black majority ever had under the former white racist regimes. In some ways Kenya resembled these two nations, in the sense that it had a significant white minority of settlers and their descendants. But many of these had obtained the most productive farmlands by de facto theft and evictions, and quite a few of them were complicit in the grotesque brutality meted out to prisoners by the white colonial authorities. Consequently, it is unsurprising that most of them thought it expedient to leave. Wherever there was a significant white minority, it tended formerly to have acted as a ruling racist oppressor class, which was bound to run the risk of rebounding on them when they lost power. South Africa stands out as something of a shining example of hope - comparatively speaking - where the black majority are treating the white minority with far more generosity and equality of rights than they ever got themselves when the white minority monopolised all power. Hmm - mired in corruption, violence and a collapsing economy. The end of colonialism only benefited a very few crooks who used the transfer of power to fill their own pockets - a situation that is endemic across Africa. |
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Post by ginnyg on Sept 23, 2023 7:48:33 GMT
Or perhaps its simply because they were aware of the realities of Africa and knew what independence was going to lead to in those countries. Every country is different. South Africa and Zimbabwe (formerly Rhodesia) both were ruled by white minority racist regimes. Yet both went in very different directions. Robert Mugabe and Nelson Mandela were worlds apart. The former a freedom fighter who morphed into a tyrant. And did what tyrants often do. Deflected popular discontent by turning it against minorities, in this case the whites. And they were an easy target because of their own former association with white oppression and thus way too easy for a bad actor like Mugabe to demonise. South Africa on the other hand remains a democracy, where the powers that be accept the white minority which formally oppressed the black majority as integral parts of the community, with full and equal rights. Which is a far better situation for them than the black majority ever had under the former white racist regimes. In some ways Kenya resembled these two nations, in the sense that it had a significant white minority of settlers and their descendants. But many of these had obtained the most productive farmlands by de facto theft and evictions, and quite a few of them were complicit in the grotesque brutality meted out to prisoners by the white colonial authorities. Consequently, it is unsurprising that most of them thought it expedient to leave. Wherever there was a significant white minority, it tended formerly to have acted as a ruling racist oppressor class, which was bound to run the risk of rebounding on them when they lost power. South Africa stands out as something of a shining example of hope - comparatively speaking - where the black majority are treating the white minority with far more generosity and equality of rights than they ever got themselves when the white minority monopolised all power. “Farm Murders” 1 April 2023 to 31 March 2024 28/02/2023: AfriForum launched its latest report on farm attacks and murders. Out of all the farm murders reported last year, suspects were arrested in only 33% of the incidents. However, it is unclear how many were charged and ultimately convicted. This is a drastic decrease from the 47% that AfriForum found in 2020 to be arrested after a farm murder. The number of arrests last year stems from a total of 333 confirmed farm attacks and 50 farm murders that took place in 2022. According to the report, the number of farm attacks decreased in the past year compared to the 415 attacks and 55 murders in 2021. Similar to previous years, almost 40% of all murder victims were the farmer and owner of the farm between the ages of 50 and 79. Just like in 2021, almost two-thirds of all victims were men. *https://archive.is/sieNd 18/08/2023: Expansion of Security Networks. AfriForum’s figures show that 76 farm attacks took place in the second quarter of 2023 and 24 murders. The organisation’s Community Safety division verified these figures from April to June 2023. When the statistics of the second quarter are compared with the first quarter of 2023, there is a significant increase in the number of murders that have taken place. Although the number of attacks for the first and second quarter are more-or-less the same, murders increased by 167% - from nine in the first quarter to 24 in the second quarter. Of all the second quarters over the last five years (since 2019), the second quarter of 2023 recorded the highest number of murders. The database of AfriForum’s Community Safety division also shows that in just 15 of the 76 farm attacks recorded for the second quarter, suspects were arrested. There was also an average of 5,85 incidents per week. We already have 168 neighbourhood and farm watch structures nationwide with around 11,000 trained volunteers who help to secure their communities. *https://archive.is/uqgRk *https://archive.is/hrmnV 19/08/2023: The South African Police Service's official statistics recorded 14 farm murders in the second quarter of 2023. *https://archive.is/vxdLq *https://archive.is/TFgmR *https://archive.is/O6AQr Obviously the black majority are treating the white minority splendidly. |
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