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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2023 20:58:14 GMT
Christian? What frigging century are you in. No one I know ever goes to church anymore. And I know more atheists than people who even claim to be nominally Christian. And in case it has escaped your bigoted attention, the UK is no longer exclusively white nor of one culture. And it never really was of one culture. What after all can be more British than a bag of chips? Except potatoes were never indigenous to these Isles but were imported from South America only a few hundred years ago. And the top British takeaway food is now a curry. But this originates from India and was brought here by immigrants from there. And even there it was heavily influenced by Portuguese spices so wasn't even purely Indian. Culture evolves and changes all the time. 2000 years ago there were no Christians here. Everyone was a pagan. Cultural evolution and change, influenced by newcomers, is all a natural part of evolutionary change. And the only ones who fear this are racists and phobes and bigots. Of which one or two here ought to step forward now and take a bow. Who says you have to go to church to be a Christian?
I know plenty of people who are of Christian faith but don't go to Church, so what century are you on?
Tell you what I'll have a wager with you, go to Africa and try telling them that their police should be white, try getting top jobs using the excuse if you don't get it it's because they are racists towards white people, try getting Christian or Catholic churches built so you can worship your own faith in their country ...
If you do, see how far you get, I doubt we'll ever see or hear from you again you'll be a good dinner for one the lions .. LOL
You are aware - or perhaps you are not - that the permanent white resident community in most African countries is vanishingly small. Except of course for South Africa where you will find plenty of white policemen and women.
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Post by see2 on Sept 20, 2023 20:58:42 GMT
So you cannot. Which I was certain of before I asked the question. Perhaps you should reread my question? So, whatever point you imagine you are making here rests on the notion that no politician in the UK explicitly and openly endorsed burning down bossiness and randomly assaulting people? I'd be intrigued to hear what you think that point is The point is that the support of BLM in this country was purely against racism, not a support of the original rag bag actions of BLM America. I think that was actually obvious if thought deeply enough about.
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Post by Pacifico on Sept 20, 2023 21:02:07 GMT
Who says you have to go to church to be a Christian?
I know plenty of people who are of Christian faith but don't go to Church, so what century are you on?
Tell you what I'll have a wager with you, go to Africa and try telling them that their police should be white, try getting top jobs using the excuse if you don't get it it's because they are racists towards white people, try getting Christian or Catholic churches built so you can worship your own faith in their country ...
If you do, see how far you get, I doubt we'll ever see or hear from you again you'll be a good dinner for one the lions .. LOL
You are aware - or perhaps you are not - that the permanent white resident community in most African countries is vanishingly small. Except of course for South Africa where you will find plenty of white policemen and women. Well thats because many of them fled after the end of Empire..
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Post by Orac on Sept 20, 2023 21:02:16 GMT
Once again the same lefties are trying to play ‘ whackamole’ with people criticising BLM and moving the goalposts ( that’s not the BLM I’m referring to 🙄. That’s the bad BLM not the nice one ). I’d BLM refers to multiple and disparate organisations then the term BLM is meaningless. If Starmer bent the knee to BLM and didn’t tell us what one then he is a plum and we must assume that he meant all of them . IF BLM is a slogan then it is meaningless ( rather like “ let’s be nice “) and Starmer is an even bigger plum. Either way Starmer is a plum . I don't know of anyone of any importance or any organisation that has VERBALLY supported the nonsense of the BLM organisation in America, DO YOU? If you do please name them and prove your allegation, if you cannot I suggest you put your racism away, and STFU. just about anyone in the UK who knew about BLM , only did so because of what happened in the states. Presumably, anyone then supporting it is doing so because of what they hear and see - which is mostly from the states. If you are going to engage in pedantry, the underlying point needs to have some tiny bit of substance
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Post by Orac on Sept 20, 2023 21:04:34 GMT
So, whatever point you imagine you are making here rests on the notion that no politician in the UK explicitly and openly endorsed burning down bossiness and randomly assaulting people? I'd be intrigued to hear what you think that point is The point is that the support of BLM in this country was purely against racism, not a support of the original rag bag actions of BLM America. I think that was actually obvious if thought deeply enough about. I guess these people must have been a blind and deaf as well as stupid. BLM's actiivities were all over UK televisions and on social media for months
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Post by Bentley on Sept 20, 2023 21:32:25 GMT
Once again the same lefties are trying to play ‘ whackamole’ with people criticising BLM and moving the goalposts ( that’s not the BLM I’m referring to 🙄. That’s the bad BLM not the nice one ). I’d BLM refers to multiple and disparate organisations then the term BLM is meaningless. If Starmer bent the knee to BLM and didn’t tell us what one then he is a plum and we must assume that he meant all of them . IF BLM is a slogan then it is meaningless ( rather like “ let’s be nice “) and Starmer is an even bigger plum. Either way Starmer is a plum . I don't know of anyone of any importance or any organisation that has VERBALLY supported the nonsense of the BLM organisation in America, DO YOU? If you do please name them and prove your allegation, if you cannot I suggest you put your racism away, and STFU. What are you waffling about ? I never said that “anyone of importance or any organisation has VERBALLY supported the nonsense of the BLM organisation in America “ It has nothing to do with the post your have replied to. Please address the my post and not the voices in your head . If you can’t do that then don’t waste my time
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Post by see2 on Sept 20, 2023 22:52:38 GMT
I don't know of anyone of any importance or any organisation that has VERBALLY supported the nonsense of the BLM organisation in America, DO YOU? If you do please name them and prove your allegation, if you cannot I suggest you put your racism away, and STFU. What are you waffling about ? I never said that “anyone of importance or any organisation has VERBALLY supported the nonsense of the BLM organisation in America “ It has nothing to do with the post your have replied to. Please address the my post and not the voices in your head . If you can’t do that then don’t waste my time Here we go again, I don't know why I waste my time with your posts. You made a silly assumption that Starmer did support the nonsense of BLM in America, I will ignore any reply you make because you are incapable of honest debate. Bye.
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Post by see2 on Sept 20, 2023 23:04:39 GMT
The point is that the support of BLM in this country was purely against racism, not a support of the original rag bag actions of BLM America. I think that was actually obvious if thought deeply enough about. I guess these people must have been a blind and deaf as well as stupid. BLM's actiivities were all over UK televisions and on social media for months It was months before the knowledge that an active BLM organisation existed. It was an old organisation that was gradually brought back to life. IMO, it is a nonsense to believe that UK footballers taking the knee were supporting the nonsense taking place in America. A few footballers refused to take the knee, it was not a compulsory requirement it was just an act of rejecting racism. Why some people desire to make it appear to be a bad thing, is somewhat confusing to me.
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Post by see2 on Sept 20, 2023 23:11:59 GMT
I don't know of anyone of any importance or any organisation that has VERBALLY supported the nonsense of the BLM organisation in America, DO YOU? If you do please name them and prove your allegation, if you cannot I suggest you put your racism away, and STFU. just about anyone in the UK who knew about BLM , only did so because of what happened in the states. Presumably, anyone then supporting it is doing so because of what they hear and see - which is mostly from the states. If you are going to engage in pedantry, the underlying point needs to have some tiny bit of substance Obviously this is an open forum and you are free to answer any post, but I would just like to make it clear that my post that you replied to was meant for a poster for whom I have absolutely no respect for. The substance is obvious, RACISM IS NOT ACCEPTABLE. Certainly not for me, how about you?
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Post by Orac on Sept 20, 2023 23:17:31 GMT
I guess these people must have been a blind and deaf as well as stupid. BLM's actiivities were all over UK televisions and on social media for months It was months before the knowledge that an active BLM organisation existed. It was an old organisation that was gradually brought back to life. What was months before? The media hysterics and the corporate support campaign started after the death of FloydMost UK people's understanding of BLM came from news coverage of events in the United States - ie the death of Floyd and the consequent months of arson, looting, assault, murder and vandalism
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2023 10:07:47 GMT
You are aware - or perhaps you are not - that the permanent white resident community in most African countries is vanishingly small. Except of course for South Africa where you will find plenty of white policemen and women. Well thats because many of them fled after the end of Empire.. Which might have something to do with many of them having been an oppressor class, which can hardly be said about the black minority living here. In fact in Kenya according to one learned book on the history of the British empire, at the time of the Mau Mau insurgency, one white resident working for the colonial authorities was known for ripping out the testicles of prisoners with pliers and forcing them to eat them. I sure bet he fled before the blacks got their country back, lol.
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Post by see2 on Sept 22, 2023 10:22:57 GMT
Just announced the policeman who shot and killed the black so called victim to be charged with murder. As if we didn't know. just wondering if a black cop shot a white person would it just be in the line of duty? Could be yes, could be no, it all depends upon the circumstances.
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Post by see2 on Sept 22, 2023 10:39:50 GMT
It was months before the knowledge that an active BLM organisation existed. It was an old organisation that was gradually brought back to life. What was months before? The media hysterics and the corporate support campaign started after the death of FloydMost UK people's understanding of BLM came from news coverage of events in the United States - ie the death of Floyd and the consequent months of arson, looting, assault, murder and vandalism I followed that period of time, and the old BLM organisation was inactive, the death of Floyd gradually brought it back to life. __"ie the death of Floyd and the consequent months of arson, looting, assault, murder and vandalism"__ Thanks for that, yes they are the reactions that gradually built up in the weeks following Floyd's death. Are you one of those people who believe that footballers in the UK taking the Knee, were actually doing it because they thought the above was the right thing to do ^^^
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Post by see2 on Sept 22, 2023 10:45:48 GMT
I don't know of anyone of any importance or any organisation that has VERBALLY supported the nonsense of the BLM organisation in America, DO YOU? If you do please name them and prove your allegation, if you cannot I suggest you put your racism away, and STFU. What are you waffling about ? I never said that “anyone of importance or any organisation has VERBALLY supported the nonsense of the BLM organisation in America “ It has nothing to do with the post your have replied to. Please address the my post and not the voices in your head . If you can’t do that then don’t waste my time Please refrain from posting the dishonest absolute garbage you insist on posting to me.
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Post by jonksy on Sept 22, 2023 10:47:18 GMT
What are you waffling about ? I never said that “anyone of importance or any organisation has VERBALLY supported the nonsense of the BLM organisation in America “ It has nothing to do with the post your have replied to. Please address the my post and not the voices in your head . If you can’t do that then don’t waste my time Please refrain from posting the dishonest absolute garbage you insist on posting to me. States someone who thrives on posting total garbage..
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