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Post by jaydee on Oct 11, 2022 11:17:09 GMT
It's an odd one because I've never considered Scotland to be a diehard socialist place. Sure the Scots have their own mannerisms and cultural traits, but in no way do they pertain to this new woke kind of hard socialism. My understanding of a Scottish person is they are generally very measured in the was they see things. Sturgeon though is turning them militant. Scotland deserve better, this deranged woman is thinking only about her own ambitions and goals in life, while the people of Scotland (her own people) are suffering the consequences of her unhealthy obsession, if any one had a obsession like hers they'd be referred to a mental health department specialising in such fields. Sturgeon is destroying Scotland, and the sad part about it she wants 'Independence' so she can join Scotland back up with the EU.
Demented she is, utterly delusional and demented, I wouldn't put her in charge of a kids playground never mind a political party, she's dangerous.
So I take it you are not going to point out where she hates the English. Now would you care to point out where she is demented and delusional. As I await for you to tell me where England gave the Scots this £41 billion on the block grant. That is what you said . Or as on the other forum. You are going to be nothing but a statement maker. Showing your dislike of the Scots. Then state they are anti English. By the way if the link does not come up. Just copy and put it in a search browser and you will see how the Scottish Government underspent. So perhaps you could explain how did you put it ah This is what you said...... you've seen how Scotland manage their own spending .... that's right .Its called underspending its own money. By the way if the link does not work. Just copy it and put it in a search browser www.gov.scot/publications/foi-19-02227/
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Post by jaydee on Oct 11, 2022 11:28:09 GMT
Me here:
I do not know if you know, but the Gold Standard was an almighty fuckup. The problem was the shortage of gold made the money supply too tight and borrowing was too expensive with limited money so it stifled business expansion and hence made the economies of all involved go south. Things only recovered once it was cancelled. This was the point of my OP. The jerk did not understand his economic history and thought the gold standard meant the best standard you can get. It was anything but!!!
Well. The Bank of England has £200 billion worth of gold reserves. That would not even cover the Englsih local authority debt on PFI. Last I checked that was over £300 billion
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Post by Red Rackham on Oct 11, 2022 11:32:36 GMT
JD!, bloody hell they'll let anyone in here, there goes the neighbourhood
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Post by Fairsociety on Oct 11, 2022 11:39:01 GMT
Yep, like one of those loose cannons. I felt Johnson was as well - as in a narcissist only interested in self-promotion and couldn't give a fuck about the consequences. My thoughts exactly.
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Post by jaydee on Oct 11, 2022 11:40:28 GMT
JD!, bloody hell they'll let anyone in here, there goes the neighbourhood Yeh. day one and your countrymen are of on the normal Jock hating crap. The latest garbage how England gave Scotland £41 billion on the block grant. Then rant they are anti English
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Post by morayloon on Oct 11, 2022 11:55:28 GMT
NS is the leader of the Party that gained 45% of the votes in 2019 48 of 59 seats. In 2021 the SNP won 47.7% of the votes and 62 of 73 seats. She speaks for almost 50% of the population and to be so rude, nasty and quite frankly ill informed about the political scene in Scotland is rather ridiculous. As JD said, Scot Gov balances the books every year. Not to do so would incur a financial penalty. The, so called, deficit comes from the guesswork relating to Westminster's spending on and on behalf, of Scotland.
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Post by jaydee on Oct 11, 2022 12:07:16 GMT
Yep, like one of those loose cannons. I felt Johnson was as well - as in a narcissist only interested in self-promotion and couldn't give a fuck about the consequences. My thoughts exactly. So I take it all you are going to do is spew to the world how you detest the elected leader of the Scottish Government. How many nonsensical post do you need. Then when being asked a question on what you spout, such as the utter nonsense how England gave Scotland £41 billion in a block grant. You will just follow up how you hate the First Minister. Now there was me thinking this is a discussion forum. No wonder Fox is closing down the hate filled PoFo forum. Could I suggest as it is a political forum. You take up politics. Then research the idiotic nonsense you post.
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Post by Fairsociety on Oct 11, 2022 12:12:07 GMT
JD!, bloody hell they'll let anyone in here, there goes the neighbourhood Yeh. day one and your countrymen are of on the normal Jock hating crap. The latest garbage how England gave Scotland £41 billion on the block grant. Then rant they are anti English What is it you are failing to understand about this 'Fact', it's not a secret, unfortunately for Sturgeon it's in the public domain, or do you think I just made it up lol
"Block Grant funding for the Scottish Government is the highest since devolution began at around £41 billion a year for 2022-2025. This means that for every £100 per person the UK Government spends in England on matters devolved to Scotland, the Scottish Government will receive around £126 per person in Scotland".
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Post by jaydee on Oct 11, 2022 12:40:07 GMT
Yeh. day one and your countrymen are of on the normal Jock hating crap. The latest garbage how England gave Scotland £41 billion on the block grant. Then rant they are anti English What is it you are failing to understand about this 'Fact', it's not a secret, unfortunately for Sturgeon it's in the public domain, or do you think I just made it up lol
"Block Grant funding for the Scottish Government is the highest since devolution began at around £41 billion a year for 2022-2025. This means that for every £100 per person the UK Government spends in England on matters devolved to Scotland, the Scottish Government will receive around £126 per person in Scotland". Yes you made it up. Let me explain the real FACT. The block grant is Scotland own money. The Scottish government and devolved matters does not cost you as a English taxpayer, one penny. And if Scotland was on its merry own it would be spending 6 times your nonsensical £126 per person, probably more. That is a idiotic statistic. Like GERs. That is how the Scots decide to spend their own money. By the way the Scottish government has frozen rent rises and evictions till March next year. Are the caring tosspots in Westminster doing the same. As the economy crashes. And I have just given you a link on how the Scottish Government has underspent. So how about you telling me how they did not. That is what you said. Unlike Westminster which has a debt, covid and Brexit not included, of some £2.7 trillion. Yes that really is £2,700,000,000,000 and rising at over £5,000 per second because you cannot live within your means. Yet the Scots have to pay back your debt which they did not need or ask for. With no say over the fiscal policy. And I am still waiting on you to explain to me how the First Minister of Scotland is deluded, anti English, dangerous and so on. As Lizz Truss trashes the economy and dragging energy rich Scotland with it. Let me make it clear. The Scottish government does not cost you one penny or has any say in your life. So I suggest you vent your spleen on who is dangerous. Like Truss. Not only to you. But me as well. With 4 tosspots elected as PM in 6 years. Not one voted in by the Scots. And I am still waiting on your source where England gave. Scotland £41 billion. That is what you said. I suggest you stop swallow the fanny hook line and sinker you get fed. Now how about you correcting anything I have said. Instead of ranting utter nonsense.
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Post by Fairsociety on Oct 11, 2022 13:12:04 GMT
What is it you are failing to understand about this 'Fact', it's not a secret, unfortunately for Sturgeon it's in the public domain, or do you think I just made it up lol
"Block Grant funding for the Scottish Government is the highest since devolution began at around £41 billion a year for 2022-2025. This means that for every £100 per person the UK Government spends in England on matters devolved to Scotland, the Scottish Government will receive around £126 per person in Scotland". Yes you made it up. Let me explain the real FACT. The block grant is Scotland own money. The Scottish government and devolved matters does not cost you as a English taxpayer, one penny. And if Scotland was on its merry own it would be spending 6 times your nonsensical £126 per person, probably more. That is a idiotic statistic. Like GERs. That is how the Scots decide to spend their own money. By the way the Scottish government has frozen rent rises and evictions till March next year. Are the caring tosspots in Westminster doing the same. As the economy crashes. And I have just given you a link on how the Scottish Government has underspent. So how about you telling me how they did not. That is what you said. Unlike Westminster which has a debt, covid and Brexit not included, of some £2.7 trillion. Yes that really is £2,700,000,000,000 and rising at over £5,000 per second because you cannot live within your means. Yet the Scots have to pay back your debt which they did not need or ask for. With no say over the fiscal policy. And I am still waiting on you to explain to me how the First Minister of Scotland is deluded, anti English, dangerous and so on. As Lizz Truss trashes the economy and dragging energy rich Scotland with it. Let me make it clear. The Scottish government does not cost you one penny or has any say in your life. So I suggest you vent your spleen on who is dangerous. Like Truss. Not only to you. But me as well. With 4 tosspots elected as PM in 6 years. Not one voted in by the Scots. And I am still waiting on your source where England gave. Scotland £41 billion. That is what you said. I suggest you stop swallow the fanny hook line and sinker you get fed. Now how about you correcting anything I have said. Instead of ranting utter nonsense. ****** You are in Denial, the sooner Sturgeon is removed the better, she's poisoning people like you with her vile lies, and in tern you are trying to poison others, without England or the UK Scotland would fall flat on its face. The UK is propping up Scotland's economy because of reckless Sturgeon and the SNP. And idiots like you are falling for their lies and treachery, while there's people like you, there will always people like them, you feed them and carry their torch. Have a look at the SNP track record on the NHS, schooling, care homes, drug problems, housing crisis, just about every department is FAILING big time. I think the people of Scotland deserve better, she is squandering YOUR cash on her delusions of grandeur, the UK tax payers are funding it, and so are the unfortunate people of Scotland who are being robbed of money so President Sturgeon can live out her dreams.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2022 13:51:50 GMT
I do not know if Starmer would give her one, but I doubt it. He's a responsible lawyer type of guy. I doubt very much Starmer would give her one. He seems far too boring, Baron. Even Boris wouldn't give her one.
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Post by jaydee on Oct 11, 2022 14:29:47 GMT
****** You are in Denial, the sooner Sturgeon is removed the better, she's poisoning people like you with her vile lies, and in tern you are trying to poison others, without England or the UK Scotland would fall flat on its face. The UK is propping up Scotland's economy because of reckless Sturgeon and the SNP. And idiots like you are falling for their lies and treachery, while there's people like you, there will always people like them, you feed them and carry their torch. Have a look at the SNP track record on the NHS, schooling, care homes, drug problems, housing crisis, just about every department is FAILING big time. I think the people of Scotland deserve better, she is squandering YOUR cash on her delusions of grandeur, the UK tax payers are funding it, and so are the unfortunate people of Scotland who are being robbed of money so President Sturgeon can live out her dreams. Oh geez more undiluted drivel. NHS waiting times. 945,072 people waited more than 12 hours in England A&E departments in 2021-22. That’s 48 times larger than the figure for Scotland 19,667, Scottish nurse average pay is £36,631 in England £33,384. Drug deaths per 10000 in Scotland is higher because it includes death by alcohol. English figures do not. Add that then get back to me. That is seperate from a worse drug problem. That goes down to England. It has a bigger drug problem in primary schools and prisons on their own than the entire drug problem in Scotland. Apart from that it is a retained matter. If you understand what that means. See links. Despite covid, Scotland has built 10 time more social houses than England. That is 50,000 since the last Parliament. To match that England would need to build 500,000. They have built around the same as Scotland. So perhaps you can now answer the question I asked and give me a link to where this £41 billion England gave to Scotland that you are on about. Now tell me. How much does Scottish devolved matters cost you. That is what you keep saying. Then tell me. How do you work out how all the departments in the Scottish Government are failing. When they underspent. How many links do you need You really have swallowed fanny hook line and sinker. Could I suggest instead of listening to the fanny you get fed. Do a wee research instead of slastering nonsense. What was that about idiots falling for lies. By the way. Better for who when the First minister is removed. She does not affect one iota of your life. Or wishes to. Could I suggest you read this post, click on first link. Then correct it. Instead of ranting it is lies. Are all the other links lies as well. ukpoliticsdebate.boards.net/post/892/threadwww.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/jul/19/scotland-drugs-problem-westminster-policy metro.co.uk/2021/05/15/scotland-rewards-nhs-staff-with-pay-rise-four-times-higher-than-englands-14586690/www.insidehousing.co.uk/news/news/scottish-government-breaks-through-50000-affordable-homes-target-76086#:~:text=Shona%20Robison%2C%20Scottish%20housing%20secretary,of%20these%20for%20social%20rent.%E2%80%9D assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1034043/AHS_2020-21.pdf
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Post by Vinny on Oct 11, 2022 15:17:55 GMT
Sturgeon needs to go. Down with the SNP.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2022 3:27:01 GMT
Sturgeon needs to go. Down with the SNP. Why does Sturgeon need to go? And who would do better than the SNP in Scotland in your opinion?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2022 3:28:30 GMT
It's always good when your opponents make your own arguments for you.
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