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Post by Fairsociety on Sept 11, 2023 15:10:18 GMT
I do if they are 'criminals', we should not have foreign prisoners clogging up our system, and I don't care if they are Somalia, Iran, or Afghanistan the moment they become criminals they should lose all rights to be UK citizens, and should be deported from whence they came. You've misunderstood the issue, we are not talking about British Citizens, we are talking about foreign nationals. Well I'll make myself clearer, even if they have been given UK status it should be a life long contract that at any time they break the law their citizenship is revoked and withdrawn, they are then classed as deportees. We need to start getting are act together and fuck all this human rights and virtue signalling shit. .... BOOT them out. |
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Post by jonksy on Sept 11, 2023 15:14:06 GMT
I do if they are 'criminals', we should not have foreign prisoners clogging up our system, and I don't care if they are Somalia, Iran, or Afghanistan the moment they become criminals they should lose all rights to be UK citizens, and should be deported from whence they came. You've misunderstood the issue, we are not talking about British Citizens, we are talking about foreign nationals. What's the difference if they chose a life of crime in the UK they are no longer the concern of our country. Are British subjects given and clemency when carring out crimes abroad? |
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Post by jonksy on Sept 11, 2023 15:14:50 GMT
Who gives a shit. If they come to the UK to indulge in a life of crime and are then deported to their own country they are no longer the concern of the UK. I don’t give a shit that you don't give a shit. So what are you bleating about then? |
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Post by jonksy on Sept 11, 2023 15:17:55 GMT
Indeed, apart from Somalia, Iran and Afghanistan, all the other top 20 countries I don't have an issue with. I do if they are 'criminals', we should not have foreign prisoners clogging up our system, and I don't care if they are Somalia, Iran, or Afghanistan the moment they become criminals they should lose all rights to be UK citizens, and should be deported from whence they came. We shouldn't also have foreign nationals turn up in our country who want their tits and arses inflated at the taxpayers exspence. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Sept 11, 2023 15:35:01 GMT
Hold on Jonksy, Andrew makes a fair point. Obviously I would go further than just Albanian prisoners, but it's a start. I really don't give a shit mate. Why should we show any compassion for those who enter our country either legally or illegaly? Why is it that our young women cannot walk freely down our streets? Or anyone in the UK have to endure the fear for their life? The simple answer is the fact that if they commit a crime in the UK they are returned to their own country and face the consequences. They are no longer the concern of the UK... Yes I know, and I agree. This country has changed more in the past 20 years than it has over the past 200 years and no one was asked, they were just criticised as racists if they questioned it. We should repeal the HRA and introduce laws that better protect this country. And while I'm here, the UK is not required to act on any decisions of the European Court of Human Rights, or the Court of Justice of the European Union, but for some reason, the government always does. It's just another case of weak politicians who do not represent the best interests of this country. |
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Post by jonksy on Sept 11, 2023 15:41:23 GMT
I really don't give a shit mate. Why should we show any compassion for those who enter our country either legally or illegaly? Why is it that our young women cannot walk freely down our streets? Or anyone in the UK have to endure the fear for their life? The simple answer is the fact that if they commit a crime in the UK they are returned to their own country and face the consequences. They are no longer the concern of the UK... Yes I know, and I agree. This country has changed more in the past 20 years than it has over the past 200 years and no one was asked, they were just criticised as racists if they questioned it. We should repeal the HRA and introduce laws that better protect this country. And while I'm here, the UK is not required to act on any decisions of the European Court of Human Rights, or the Court of Justice of the European Union, but for some reason, the government always does. It's just another case of weak politicians who do not represent the best interests of this country. Yet another thing we can blame on Blair mate. His wife made millions from this HR bollox. Not only that she refused to pay her staff during lockdown and had the UK taxpayers pay her staffs wages. And then when her company went tits up the UK taxpayers got nothing in return. |
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Post by Montegriffo on Sept 11, 2023 15:45:29 GMT
What have human rights ever done for us?  ![]() |
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Post by Red Rackham on Sept 11, 2023 15:55:51 GMT
What have human rights ever done for us? Well I suppose that rather depends whether you're a foreign criminal, and illegal immigrant, or a law abiding British citizen. |
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Post by andrewbrown on Sept 11, 2023 16:11:00 GMT
What have human rights ever done for us? Well I suppose that rather depends whether you're a foreign criminal, and illegal immigrant, or a law abiding British citizen. Hmm. Isn't the idea of human rights is that it should apply to all humans? Otherwise what you are talking about isn't really all human rights, but only some humans rights. |
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Post by jonksy on Sept 11, 2023 16:12:21 GMT
Well I suppose that rather depends whether you're a foreign criminal, and illegal immigrant, or a law abiding British citizen. Hmm. Isn't the idea of human rights is that it should apply to all humans? Otherwise what you are talking about isn't really all human rights, but only some humans rights. So when are the victims going to get any rights? |
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Post by Red Rackham on Sept 11, 2023 16:25:34 GMT
Well I suppose that rather depends whether you're a foreign criminal, and illegal immigrant, or a law abiding British citizen. Hmm. Isn't the idea of human rights is that it should apply to all humans? Otherwise what you are talking about isn't really all human rights, but only some humans rights. That sounds very righteous Andrew. However theres a problem, and it's rather a large problem. The rights of people in this country are not just being ignored, they're being trampled on and stamped into the dirt. When it comes to human rights, then unlike law abiding people in this country, foreign criminals and illegal immigrants are very well catered for. |
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Post by Fairsociety on Sept 11, 2023 16:26:22 GMT
Well I suppose that rather depends whether you're a foreign criminal, and illegal immigrant, or a law abiding British citizen. Hmm. Isn't the idea of human rights is that it should apply to all humans? Otherwise what you are talking about isn't really all human rights, but only some humans rights. human rights doesn't give rights to humans who breach human rights.
In other words when you commit a crime against your fellow man, you are in breach of their human rights, in turn you have forfeited your own human rights because you are in guilty of breaching that law.
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Post by Pacifico on Sept 11, 2023 16:29:34 GMT
What have human rights ever done for us? ![]() We had human rights for hundreds of years before the Human Rights Act.. |
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Post by Pacifico on Sept 11, 2023 16:30:36 GMT
Well I suppose that rather depends whether you're a foreign criminal, and illegal immigrant, or a law abiding British citizen. Hmm. Isn't the idea of human rights is that it should apply to all humans? Otherwise what you are talking about isn't really all human rights, but only some humans rights. Surely that is the whole point of incarceration for committing a crime - you lose some of your human rights? |
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Post by andrewbrown on Sept 11, 2023 16:36:06 GMT
Hmm. Isn't the idea of human rights is that it should apply to all humans? Otherwise what you are talking about isn't really all human rights, but only some humans rights. Surely that is the whole point of incarceration for committing a crime - you lose some of your human rights? I advocated deporting them, not releasing them? |
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