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Post by Red Rackham on Sept 11, 2023 13:35:43 GMT
There are currently about 10,000 foreign criminals in UK prisons which is about 12% of the prison population. If they were deported it would immediately free up many prison places, immediately ease pressure on the prison system and have an immediate cost saving of around £450 million a year. What's not to like?
Of course I know in reality outraged lefties would insist that deporting foreign criminals would be against their human rights, racist, etc etc, and of course it would require a prime minister with balls, so it's unlikely. And in spite of Starmer constantly criticising the government over the prison system, we all know nothing would change under prime minister Starmer.
It's incredible, so much of our infrastructure, prisons, schools, housing, the NHS is under intolerable pressure yet solutions are available, if only weak left wing/centrist politicians would grow a pair and for once in their miserable lives put this country first.
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Post by jonksy on Sept 11, 2023 14:05:45 GMT
There are currently about 10,000 foreign criminals in UK prisons which is about 12% of the prison population. If they were deported it would immediately free up many prison places, immediately ease pressure on the prison system and have an immediate cost saving of around £450 million a year. What's not to like? Of course I know in reality outraged lefties would insist that deporting foreign criminals would be against their human rights, racist, etc etc, and of course it would require a prime minister with balls, so it's unlikely. And in spite of Starmer constantly criticising the government over the prison system, we all know nothing would change under prime minister Starmer. It's incredible, so much of our infrastructure, prisons, schools, housing, the NHS is under intolerable pressure yet solutions are available, if only weak left wing/centrist politicians would grow a pair and for once in their miserable lives put this country first. Its high time we brought back capital punishment mate. Many of these cases of our illegally uninvited guests would incur a dangle on the end of rope in some parts of the world where justice is exactly that and not a stay in a 5 star hotel at the taxpayers expense... |
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Post by andrewbrown on Sept 11, 2023 14:09:22 GMT
As long as we are not putting them into danger I've no issue with deporting them. Looks like from Wiki the largest number are from Albania, we already have a returns agreement, so no reason why we can't get shut.
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Post by jonksy on Sept 11, 2023 14:12:24 GMT
As long as we are not putting them into danger I've no issue with deporting them. Looks like from Wiki the largest number are from Albania, we already have a returns agreement, so no reason why we can't get shut. Oh dear the usual HR bollox from those and their faux concerns. What about the UK population at risk by these rapists murderers and terrorists? |
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Post by andrewbrown on Sept 11, 2023 14:30:47 GMT
As long as we are not putting them into danger I've no issue with deporting them. Looks like from Wiki the largest number are from Albania, we already have a returns agreement, so no reason why we can't get shut. Oh dear the usual HR bollox from those and their faux concerns. What about the UK population at risk by these rapists murderers and terrorists? I'm not talking about faux concerns you cretin, I'm talking about not putting people into a war zone. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Sept 11, 2023 14:32:37 GMT
As long as we are not putting them into danger I've no issue with deporting them. Looks like from Wiki the largest number are from Albania, we already have a returns agreement, so no reason why we can't get shut. Oh dear the usual HR bollox from those and their faux concerns. What about the UK population at risk by these rapists murderers and terrorists? Hold on Jonksy, Andrew makes a fair point. Obviously I would go further than just Albanian prisoners, but it's a start. |
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Post by andrewbrown on Sept 11, 2023 14:35:41 GMT
Oh dear the usual HR bollox from those and their faux concerns. What about the UK population at risk by these rapists murderers and terrorists? Hold on Jonksy, Andrew makes a fair point. Obviously I would go further than just Albanian prisoners, but it's a start. Indeed, apart from Somalia, Iran and Afghanistan, all the other top 20 countries I don't have an issue with. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Sept 11, 2023 14:37:44 GMT
As long as we are not putting them into danger I've no issue with deporting them. Looks like from Wiki the largest number are from Albania, we already have a returns agreement, so no reason why we can't get shut. The problem is, thanks to left wing human rights lawyers any foreign criminal facing deportation will claim he faces persecution if he is deported. Deportations should be up to the government not left wing human rights lawyers who as we all know have hardly covered themselves in glory. |
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Post by Dan Dare on Sept 11, 2023 14:41:46 GMT
The very simple and guaranteed effective solution is to repeal the Human Rights Act. That is, turn the clock back to 1997 as far as human rights are concerned.
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Post by Fairsociety on Sept 11, 2023 14:43:08 GMT
Hold on Jonksy, Andrew makes a fair point. Obviously I would go further than just Albanian prisoners, but it's a start. Indeed, apart from Somalia, Iran and Afghanistan, all the other top 20 countries I don't have an issue with. I do if they are 'criminals', we should not have foreign prisoners clogging up our system, and I don't care if they are Somalia, Iran, or Afghanistan the moment they become criminals they should lose all rights to be UK citizens, and should be deported from whence they came. |
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Post by andrewbrown on Sept 11, 2023 14:45:29 GMT
Indeed, apart from Somalia, Iran and Afghanistan, all the other top 20 countries I don't have an issue with. I do if they are 'criminals', we should not have foreign prisoners clogging up our system, and I don't care if they are Somalia, Iran, or Afghanistan the moment they become criminals they should lose all rights to be UK citizens, and should be deported from whence they came. You've misunderstood the issue, we are not talking about British Citizens, we are talking about foreign nationals. |
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Post by jonksy on Sept 11, 2023 14:57:07 GMT
Oh dear the usual HR bollox from those and their faux concerns. What about the UK population at risk by these rapists murderers and terrorists? I'm not talking about faux concerns you cretin, I'm talking about not putting people into a war zone. Who gives a shit. If they come to the UK to indulge in a life of crime and are then deported to their own country they are no longer the concern of the UK. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Sept 11, 2023 15:00:45 GMT
The very simple and guaranteed effective solution is to repeal the Human Rights Act. That is, turn the clock back to 1997 as far as human rights are concerned. As far as repealing the Human Rights Act is concerned I couldn't agree more, it should be repealed. Why you think it would turn the human rights clock back is something of a mystery. All Labours HRA did was give further rights and freedoms already guaranteed under the European Convention on Human Rights and is a charter for cowboy human rights lawyers. |
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Post by jonksy on Sept 11, 2023 15:04:40 GMT
Oh dear the usual HR bollox from those and their faux concerns. What about the UK population at risk by these rapists murderers and terrorists? Hold on Jonksy, Andrew makes a fair point. Obviously I would go further than just Albanian prisoners, but it's a start. I really don't give a shit mate. Why should we show any compassion for those who enter our country either legally or illegaly? Why is it that our young women cannot walk freely down our streets? Or anyone in the UK have to endure the fear for their life? The simple answer is the fact that if they commit a crime in the UK they are returned to their own country and face the consequences. They are no longer the concern of the UK... |
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Post by andrewbrown on Sept 11, 2023 15:06:05 GMT
I'm not talking about faux concerns you cretin, I'm talking about not putting people into a war zone. Who gives a shit. If they come to the UK to indulge in a life of crime and are then deported to their own country they are no longer the concern of the UK. I don’t give a shit that you don't give a shit. |
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