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Post by Fairsociety on Sept 8, 2023 10:14:49 GMT
The committee's report lol. The cake was central to at least one supposed 'fact' that made Boris a transgressor The model here is full on Stalin - ie a committee 'finding the crimes'. These people give themselves away with their enthusiasm for certain issues and reluctance regarding others, Get over the cake - it is making you look silly. It was nicknamed 'Cakegate'.
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Post by Orac on Sept 8, 2023 10:16:11 GMT
Starmer lied about Beergate, he's got a corruption investigation into Liverpool Labour Council kept 'secret', can you imagine if Liverpool was a Tory run council, Starmer and Rayner would be screaming from the roof tops if Sunak made the report into the corruption investigation Secret, why aren't any of the Council facing a public inquiry headed by Witch Harman.... oh that's right, I forgot, it's Labours double standard hypocrisy standing in the way. Starmer was cleared by the police The police's best forensic cake expert found no traces.
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Post by Fairsociety on Sept 8, 2023 10:20:09 GMT
Starmer was cleared by the police The police's best forensic cake expert found no traces. ... LOL
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Post by Vinny on Sept 8, 2023 10:37:22 GMT
It's ok to not like the Tories, but let us be objective. Labour are fucking shit, aren't they?
There's a reason we booted them out in 2010, and they still haven't worked out why.
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Post by dappy on Sept 8, 2023 12:10:05 GMT
We seem to be running the lie that Johnson was censured by the Parliamentary Standards Committee (PSC) because of parties. That’s not true. He was censured for repeatedly lying to parliament.
We also seem to be running the lie that he was brought down as PM by parties and the PSC. Not true. He was brought down by his colleagues for repeatedly lying to them with the final straw being Pincher.
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Post by see2 on Sept 8, 2023 12:45:57 GMT
It's ok to not like the Tories, but let us be objective. Labour are fucking shit, aren't they? There's a reason we booted them out in 2010, and they still haven't worked out why. 2010 was the result of 2008 international financial meltdown, it came as a god send to the Tories who did so much damage to the UK economy 1979-1992. "But let's be objective, Labour are fucking shit, aren't they?" LOL. The Tories were "shit" 1979/92, and have been proven to be "shit" since 2010.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2023 12:54:26 GMT
Get over the cake - it is making you look silly. It makes everyone look silly. I find the idea that democratically elected leader could be ousted by a committee because of cake related infractions, quite silly really. Like something from Tom Sharpe novel. It would be if it had anything to do with cake but you know that and are to daft to admit it.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2023 12:56:36 GMT
Starmer was cleared by the police - you are just pedalling conspiracy theories. When you've been the a ex-DPP you have low friends in high places, and you think he still hasn't got that clout .... LOL Are you seriously saying that Starmer has more 'clout' than Johnson? That makes you sound even dafter.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2023 12:57:19 GMT
Get over the cake - it is making you look silly. It was nicknamed 'Cakegate'. Cakegate, as you and others call it did not bring Johnson down.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2023 13:04:32 GMT
It's ok to not like the Tories, but let us be objective. Labour are fucking shit, aren't they? There's a reason we booted them out in 2010, and they still haven't worked out why. Since 2010 this country has gone to the dogs. More poverty. Longer waiting lists. Higher debt. Not enough GPs. Shrunken army. Fewer warships. No border control. More crime. More anti-social behaviour. Underfunded councils. Underfunded NHS. Increase in taxes. Brexit bad deal. High immigration. More kids in poverty. Crumbling schools. Crumbing hospitals. Bankrupt councils. More strikes. Unfit housing. Gaps in shops. Polluted rivers and seas. Rich and poor gap wider. Less growth. ..............
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Post by Vinny on Sept 8, 2023 13:08:45 GMT
There were people living on the streets when Blair had done his first term. Poverty was there when Labour were in. Debt was soaring when Labour were in. The Army was shrinking when Labour were in. There was no border control and there was EU free movement of criminals. There was high anti social behaviour. The NHS was always underfunded and Labour persisted with PFI for too long. Taxes soared. We had membership of the shitty EU and falling levels of trade with it and high industrial decline. Schools were crumbling, nothing was done about the aerated reinforced concrete problem then, despite it being known about. There was just about everything you complain about under a Labour government, so what do you think Labour will do differently?
Labour have not learned where they went wrong last time.
Brexit is a success, we sell more £££ to the EU now than we did before the referendum.
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Post by Montegriffo on Sept 8, 2023 13:13:51 GMT
There were people living on the streets when Blair had done his first term. Poverty was there when Labour were in. Debt was soaring when Labour were in. The Army was shrinking when Labour were in. There was no border control and there was EU free movement of criminals. There was high anti social behaviour. The NHS was always underfunded and Labour persisted with PFI for too long. Taxes soared. We had membership of the shitty EU and falling levels of trade with it and high industrial decline. Schools were crumbling, nothing was done about the aerated reinforced concrete problem then, despite it being known about. There was just about everything you complain about under a Labour government, so what do you think Labour will do differently? Labour have not learned where they went wrong last time. Brexit is a success, we sell more £££ to the EU now than we did before the referendum. How much of that increase is down to inflation since 2016?
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Sept 8, 2023 13:19:35 GMT
It is an essential .......How else do labour supporters not smell the stench..
Partygate inquisitor Harriet Harman throws her hat into the ring to become Parliament's sleaze commissioner... Perhaps she should have Sue Gray as her assistant.
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Post by Orac on Sept 8, 2023 13:22:22 GMT
It makes everyone look silly. I find the idea that democratically elected leader could be ousted by a committee because of cake related infractions, quite silly really. Like something from Tom Sharpe novel. It would be if it had anything to do with cake but you know that and are to daft to admit it. The presence of cake was a central fact.
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Post by Vinny on Sept 8, 2023 13:25:25 GMT
There were people living on the streets when Blair had done his first term. Poverty was there when Labour were in. Debt was soaring when Labour were in. The Army was shrinking when Labour were in. There was no border control and there was EU free movement of criminals. There was high anti social behaviour. The NHS was always underfunded and Labour persisted with PFI for too long. Taxes soared. We had membership of the shitty EU and falling levels of trade with it and high industrial decline. Schools were crumbling, nothing was done about the aerated reinforced concrete problem then, despite it being known about. There was just about everything you complain about under a Labour government, so what do you think Labour will do differently? Labour have not learned where they went wrong last time. Brexit is a success, we sell more £££ to the EU now than we did before the referendum. How much of that increase is down to inflation since 2016? Here's the Bank of England's inflation calculator, see for yourself: www.bankofengland.co.uk/monetary-policy/inflation/inflation-calculator£223.3 billion exported to EU in 2015. www.ons.gov.uk/businessindustryandtrade/internationaltrade/articles/ukperspectives2016tradewiththeeuandbeyond/2016-05-25£340 billion exported to EU in 2022. commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/cbp-7851/Above inflation sales. Ergo, success.
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