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Post by Steve on Sept 2, 2023 10:41:44 GMT
The awkward truth that our economy shrank in 2022 UK GDP |
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Post by oracle75 on Sept 2, 2023 10:44:39 GMT
No dear. Politico said he didnt believe the ONS. I said nothing on the issue. He doesnt believe it when it is bad news but does believe it when it corrects its previous mistakes. Perfect example of confirmation bias. Sorry, but you've been one of the main antagonists on here gleefully revelling in the plight of the "UK lowest G7 economy" and "still lower than pre-pandemic levels" rhetoric. So what? If the ONS has been pronounced and proven by its own admission to be fallible, how do you know it is correct this time? Your message was we shouldnt believe them. Now we should?? |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Sept 2, 2023 10:50:41 GMT
I think it's fair to assume that whatever you believe is likely to be wrong.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2023 10:51:57 GMT
UK growth has been poor throughout the years of Conservative administration from 2010
Amongst the many politicians and economists who warned David Cameron not to slash and burn public services were Nobel Prize winning economist Paul Krugman, Alistair Darling, Nick Clegg and Vince Cable, the two Lib Dem MPs changed their minds after getting ministerial positions and fancy cars.
Evidence is in the data - we came out of recession in 2009 under Gordon Brown, growth began to accelerate, but then fell back soon after the coalition came to power.
Growth was cut off
The UK economy teetered on the very edge of a second recession ( The Double Dip ) and in 2013 the UK credit rating was reduced, something that George Osborne said would not happen if we followed his plan.
Everything in this country since 2010 has gone backwards, even life expectancy, which is a damning statistic not seen in any other industrialised, developed democracy.
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Post by buccaneer on Sept 2, 2023 10:57:19 GMT
Sorry, but you've been one of the main antagonists on here gleefully revelling in the plight of the "UK lowest G7 economy" and "still lower than pre-pandemic levels" rhetoric. So what? If the ONS has been pronounced and proven by its own admission to be fallible, how do you know it is correct this time? Your message was we shouldnt believe them. Now we should?? So what, all those arguments you've made about Brexit Britain and its G7 standings are obsolete and void of merit. And where was message that we shouldn't believe them? Can you back that up or are we going to assume you are making up more dishonest BS? Guess you get back to the drawing board to slag the nation you once allegedly lived in off. |
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Post by Pacifico on Sept 2, 2023 11:06:54 GMT
Except, desparados like you used their stats to brow-beat Brexit Britain. And now you tell us, you never believed them in the first place! lol No dear. Politico said he didnt believe the ONS. I said nothing on the issue. He doesnt believe it when it is bad news but does believe it when it corrects its previous mistakes. Perfect example of confirmation bias. Who said I dont believe them? - is this something you have just made up? |
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Post by oracle75 on Sept 2, 2023 14:58:11 GMT
No dear. Politico said he didnt believe the ONS. I said nothing on the issue. He doesnt believe it when it is bad news but does believe it when it corrects its previous mistakes. Perfect example of confirmation bias. Who said I dont believe them? - is this something you have just made up? You were IIR supportive of the idea that the ONS is unreliable. Now is it or is it not reliable?[ |
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Post by jonksy on Sept 2, 2023 15:07:07 GMT
The Micron is still trying to inflict more expense onto the UK. Now France calls for the cost of British flights to Europe be INCREASED
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Post by om15 on Sept 2, 2023 15:12:59 GMT
I think that ignoring the advice of that particular trio of left wing has beens might have been one of the very few wise decisions that the Tories have made in the past 12 years. All three tried to overturn the results of the referendum and have been earning a good living by sitting on the sidelines taking no responsibility for anything and whinging ever since.
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Post by oracle75 on Sept 2, 2023 15:18:55 GMT
Nick Clegg is President of Global Affairs for Meta.
I reckon that keeps him occupied.
Vince Cable is 80 years old.
Alastair Darling is 70. Heard him on some radio interview recently.
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Post by thomas on Sept 2, 2023 15:20:04 GMT
I think that ignoring the advice of that particular trio of left wing has beens might have been one of the very few wise decisions that the Tories have made in the past 12 years. All three tried to overturn the results of the referendum and have been earning a good living by sitting on the sidelines taking no responsibility for anything and whinging ever since. i think thats a fair point you make ommy about anti democratic actions , and i cant stand clegg or darling ,two utter incompetents of the highest order , but i personally thought vince cable a reasonable thoughtfull politicians of some capability. |
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Post by thomas on Sept 2, 2023 15:32:00 GMT
UK growth has been poor throughout the years of Conservative administration from 2010 Amongst the many politicians and economists who warned David Cameron not to slash and burn public services were Nobel Prize winning economist Paul Krugman, Alistair Darling, Nick Clegg and Vince Cable, the two Lib Dem MPs changed their minds after getting ministerial positions and fancy cars. Evidence is in the data - we came out of recession in 2009 under Gordon Brown, growth began to accelerate, but then fell back soon after the coalition came to power. Growth was cut off The UK economy teetered on the very edge of a second recession ( The Double Dip ) and in 2013 the UK credit rating was reduced, something that George Osborne said would not happen if we followed his plan. Everything in this country since 2010 has gone backwards, even life expectancy, which is a damning statistic not seen in any other industrialised, developed democracy. many have also argued new labour inherited the best set of balanced books any government have inherited in the modern political era , lived off the back of Thatchers radicalism , and helped encourage the financial bust with their policy failure in financial regulation.
Not to mention allowing public debt to rise higher than it need be , and saddling future generations with over a hundred billion in pfi debt , all put onto future governments books.
Im not a conservative voter , but clearly many of the policy failures and bad decisions of the new labour years were left for future conservative and snp governments to deal with . As ever , the turd polishing and re writing of history continues from the forums new labour worshipper.
The current new labour party is nothing more than an excercise in futiley finding new ways to promise nothing to those of us in these islands wanting change. I do hope the polls are wrong , and your party receives the kicking it so desperately deserves from joe public.
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Post by Pacifico on Sept 2, 2023 16:39:51 GMT
Who said I dont believe them? - is this something you have just made up?
Now is it or is it not reliable?[ I was? - show me where? |
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Post by Pacifico on Sept 2, 2023 16:40:49 GMT
The Micron is still trying to inflict more expense onto the UK. Now France calls for the cost of British flights to Europe be INCREASED
He is going to struggle to get that proposal past the Irish...  |
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Post by thomas on Sept 2, 2023 16:43:06 GMT
The Micron is still trying to inflict more expense onto the UK. Now France calls for the cost of British flights to Europe be INCREASED
He is going to struggle to get that proposal past the Irish... whats your point? |
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