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Post by zanygame on Sept 10, 2023 9:53:23 GMT
I think you are trying to undermine what the public want by claiming its a mental illness. I think that idea is laughable. Your thoughts are peculiar. You see the public as the masses, like the Communists do. A collective to manipulate and when this imagined entity doesn't support the despots the despots try and usurp democracy, which was the ultimate insult to those individuals whose democratic voice the despots tried to silence.
It's easy for you to do. You can project your own thoughts into this imagined being you call the public and claim you speak for everyone. The fact that this lunacy is by the exact same people who wanted to usurp democracy is why no sane individual should take it seriously - it's dishonest and hypocritical.
The people wanted a better UK outside of the EU. People like you want the UK to fail. I don't care what reasons you have for that. You could be anyone. 
EDIT: anyone like the trolls who rely on deflections and spamming.
I see polls as masses. I see the results as mass opinion. People can be individuals and still share views, as they did when thy voted leave. Your allusion to Communism is a classic Rebirth tactic and I wont pursue it as its a banal insult. |
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Post by buccaneer on Sept 10, 2023 9:55:37 GMT
90 plus polls disagree with you. Saying that the only poll that matters agreed with you doesn't hold water when that poll would have been overturned as being unreflective of the free will of the majority given that it was based on misinformation (See the recent thread on Swiss referendums). I don't believe what the polls say. They're like economic forecasts. The type you put great stock in! There was only one poll that mattered. |
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Post by buccaneer on Sept 10, 2023 9:57:21 GMT
It was democracy. Stop trying to re-write history. It didn't even come close to democracy. And the thread title doesn't directly bear on history, but the current percentage that wishes to rejoin. It was one of the biggest democratic votes in UK history. Seems you best get campaigning out on the streets again if you believe the wind is in your sails. Knock yourself out kidda. |
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Post by Einhorn on Sept 10, 2023 9:57:43 GMT
90 plus polls disagree with you. Saying that the only poll that matters agreed with you doesn't hold water when that poll would have been overturned as being unreflective of the free will of the majority given that it was based on misinformation (See the recent thread on Swiss referendums). I don't believe what the polls say. They're like economic forecasts. The type you put great stock in! There was only one poll that mattered. Nobody's asking you to believe anything. There wasn't only one poll that mattered - future polls (referendums) will matter too. And 90 plus polls have consistently demonstrated what the outcome of the next referendum will be. |
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Post by Einhorn on Sept 10, 2023 9:58:32 GMT
It didn't even come close to democracy. And the thread title doesn't directly bear on history, but the current percentage that wishes to rejoin. It was one of the biggest democratic votes in UK history. Seems you best get campaigning out on the streets again if you believe the wind is in your sails. Knock yourself out kidda. But it wasn't democratic. It would have been overturned for being undemocratic had it gone before the courts, just as happened in similar circumstances in Switzerland. |
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Post by buccaneer on Sept 10, 2023 9:59:31 GMT
I don't believe what the polls say. They're like economic forecasts. The type you put great stock in! There was only one poll that mattered. Nobody's asking you to believe anything. There wasn't only one poll that mattered - future polls (referendums) will matter too. And 90 plus polls have consistently demonstrated what the outcome of the next referendum will be. Only one poll mattered for where the UK currently is today. Outside the EU. Long may that continue. |
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Post by Einhorn on Sept 10, 2023 10:01:19 GMT
Nobody's asking you to believe anything. There wasn't only one poll that mattered - future polls (referendums) will matter too. And 90 plus polls have consistently demonstrated what the outcome of the next referendum will be. Only one poll mattered for where the UK currently is today. Outside the EU. Long may that continue. Yes, but it wasn't democratic. And the polls have consistently demonstrated that the current situation doesn't reflect the democratic will of the people. |
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Post by zanygame on Sept 10, 2023 10:01:25 GMT
90 plus polls disagree with you. Saying that the only poll that matters agreed with you doesn't hold water when that poll would have been overturned as being unreflective of the free will of the majority given that it was based on misinformation (See the recent thread on Swiss referendums). I don't believe what the polls say. They're like economic forecasts. The type you put great stock in! There was only one poll that mattered. If we hadn't believed in polls there would never have been a referendum in the first place. |
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Post by buccaneer on Sept 10, 2023 10:02:16 GMT
It was one of the biggest democratic votes in UK history. Seems you best get campaigning out on the streets again if you believe the wind is in your sails. Knock yourself out kidda. But it wasn't democratic. It would have been overturned for being undemocratic had it gone before the courts, just as happened in similar circumstances in Switzerland. ifithadabeenfor... Strawman. At least 17.4 million people will disagree with you about the democratic vote. |
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Post by Einhorn on Sept 10, 2023 10:02:52 GMT
But it wasn't democratic. It would have been overturned for being undemocratic had it gone before the courts, just as happened in similar circumstances in Switzerland. ifithadabeenfor... Strawman. At least 17.4 million people will disagree with you about the democratic vote. Not anymore. 62% now think it was wrong. |
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Post by buccaneer on Sept 10, 2023 10:04:22 GMT
ifithadabeenfor... Strawman. At least 17.4 million people will disagree with you about the democratic vote. Not anymore. 62% now think it was wrong. Bully for you! |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2023 10:04:54 GMT
Your thoughts are peculiar. You see the public as the masses, like the Communists do. A collective to manipulate and when this imagined entity doesn't support the despots the despots try and usurp democracy, which was the ultimate insult to those individuals whose democratic voice the despots tried to silence.
It's easy for you to do. You can project your own thoughts into this imagined being you call the public and claim you speak for everyone. The fact that this lunacy is by the exact same people who wanted to usurp democracy is why no sane individual should take it seriously - it's dishonest and hypocritical.
The people wanted a better UK outside of the EU. People like you want the UK to fail. I don't care what reasons you have for that. You could be anyone.
EDIT: anyone like the trolls who rely on deflections and spamming.
I see polls as masses. I see the results as mass opinion. People can be individuals and still share views, as they did when thy voted leave. Your allusion to Communism is a classic Rebirth tactic and I wont pursue it as its a banal insult. Thankfully you're irrelevant. It's just a shame that you're unable to understand even the basics. |
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Post by Einhorn on Sept 10, 2023 10:05:13 GMT
Not anymore. 62% now think it was wrong. Bully for you! Yes. It's encouraging. A second referendum is inevitable. |
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Post by buccaneer on Sept 10, 2023 10:06:48 GMT
Yes. It's encouraging. A second referendum is inevitable. No not neccesarily. But hey, keep the faith. You love nothing other than your future prophecies. |
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Post by Einhorn on Sept 10, 2023 10:10:11 GMT
Yes. It's encouraging. A second referendum is inevitable. No not neccesarily. But hey, keep the faith. You love nothing other than your future prophecies. You're right, it won't necessarily happen. If ISIS should re-emerge, it will be very easy for someone like Farage to exploit the climate of fear for his own ends again (maybe, he'll try his lies about the UK being on the brink of being invaded by millions of Turkish Muslims a second time). Who knows? ISIS were good for you in the past, maybe they'll come to your assistance again. Short of something like that, you don't have a chance of winning a second referendum. |
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