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Post by sheepy on Aug 31, 2023 12:24:11 GMT
As Victor Meldrew would say "I dont believe it" Its almost as though Rishi Sunak wants the Conservative Party to lose the next general election I reckon Ladbrokes and William Hill will open books as to how long before he makes another balls-up Grant Shapps - the return of Blunder Man It matters because? even when Labour get in the MOD will still be run by exactly the same people you nitwit, not some representative of the people. |
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Post by Fairsociety on Aug 31, 2023 12:39:42 GMT
As Victor Meldrew would say "I dont believe it" Its almost as though Rishi Sunak wants the Conservative Party to lose the next general election I reckon Ladbrokes and William Hill will open books as to how long before he makes another balls-up Grant Shapps - the return of Blunder Man It matters because? even when Labour get in the MOD will still be run by exactly the same people you nitwit, not some representative of the people. We can all sleep soundly in our beds knowing that .......  |
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Post by patman post on Aug 31, 2023 14:39:35 GMT
I wonder who will replace him? Grant Crapps has The name plays well among the others — eg, Michael Green, Corinne Stockheath and Sebastian Fox — used by him from time to time in business ventures.
He's done well, holding five cabinet posts over the past 12 months...
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Post by sheepy on Aug 31, 2023 14:57:27 GMT
It matters because? even when Labour get in the MOD will still be run by exactly the same people you nitwit, not some representative of the people. We can all sleep soundly in our beds knowing that ....... Aye no bother Mr Bean has it all under control. |
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Post by bancroft on Aug 31, 2023 15:11:34 GMT
This is a dodgy position at the moment because of the proxy war. Russia could easily nuke the UK so we need to be careful and watch out.
If they nuke us, would the US go full-out nuke launch?, i doubt it we are expendable which for me like Vietnam we should have stayed out of it.
A dangerous job at this time.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2023 15:31:01 GMT
This is a dodgy position at the moment because of the proxy war. Russia could easily nuke the UK so we need to be careful and watch out. If they nuke us, would the US go full-out nuke launch?, i doubt it we are expendable which for me like Vietnam we should have stayed out of it. A dangerous job at this time. There is no "proxy war", it is a war between a Bully and an innocent state; The West, NATO, the democratic world and Europe naturally went to the defence of the innocent party (Ukraine) which was attacked and invaded for no reason other than an illegal land and territory - grab. Imagine a world where any nation could simply steal another nations territory without consequences, there would be wars on every continent. |
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Post by dappy on Aug 31, 2023 15:34:59 GMT
That's a very simplistic view Sid.
For me this isn't a conflict between Goodies and Baddies - its a conflict between Baddies and slightly worse Baddies with the Baddies supported by other Baddies playing proxy games.
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Post by sheepy on Aug 31, 2023 15:37:02 GMT
This is a dodgy position at the moment because of the proxy war. Russia could easily nuke the UK so we need to be careful and watch out. If they nuke us, would the US go full-out nuke launch?, i doubt it we are expendable which for me like Vietnam we should have stayed out of it. A dangerous job at this time. If one thing were obvious to the Russians it is probably the majority in this country would see it as a release. Which is probably confusing the hell out of the Kremlin, as they realise we couldn't give a flying feck. As long as they take out those bastards calling themselves politicians first, I reckon most of the rest would smile with their last dying gasp. |
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Post by andrewbrown on Aug 31, 2023 15:51:03 GMT
This is a dodgy position at the moment because of the proxy war. Russia could easily nuke the UK so we need to be careful and watch out. If they nuke us, would the US go full-out nuke launch?, i doubt it we are expendable which for me like Vietnam we should have stayed out of it. A dangerous job at this time. There is no "proxy war", it is a war between a Bully and an innocent state; The West, NATO, the democratic world and Europe naturally went to the defence of the innocent party (Ukraine) which was attacked and invaded for no reason other than an illegal land and territory - grab. Imagine a world where any nation could simply steal another nations territory without consequences, there would be wars on every continent. Except we did nothing when they invaded Crimea. |
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Post by Fairsociety on Aug 31, 2023 15:53:32 GMT
We can all sleep soundly in our beds knowing that ....... Aye no bother Mr Bean has it all under control. LOL.... |
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Post by bancroft on Aug 31, 2023 16:07:44 GMT
This is a dodgy position at the moment because of the proxy war. Russia could easily nuke the UK so we need to be careful and watch out. If they nuke us, would the US go full-out nuke launch?, i doubt it we are expendable which for me like Vietnam we should have stayed out of it. A dangerous job at this time. There is no "proxy war", it is a war between a Bully and an innocent state; The West, NATO, the democratic world and Europe naturally went to the defence of the innocent party (Ukraine) which was attacked and invaded for no reason other than an illegal land and territory - grab. Imagine a world where any nation could simply steal another nations territory without consequences, there would be wars on every continent. A very simplistic view for me. There were human right abuses against the Russian minority in Ukraine, the US was behind the coup attempt of 2014 or do you deny there was a coup in 2014? I have loaded clips before of Blinken and that other female US Hawk trying to get Klitscho involved and saying they don't give a fxxk about the EU, they are both of Jewish background out of former Soviet or Russian even Boris Johson is of this background from one of his aunts I think and they hate Russia with a vengeance. Unless we are going to position our own nukes with iCBMs around the world with massive range we should have never have got in involved yet we are still a poodle. We are never going to do this because we can't afford it and France knows better even with their nuke weapons which is why they are more balanced with their statements. |
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Post by bancroft on Aug 31, 2023 16:11:12 GMT
There is no "proxy war", it is a war between a Bully and an innocent state; The West, NATO, the democratic world and Europe naturally went to the defence of the innocent party (Ukraine) which was attacked and invaded for no reason other than an illegal land and territory - grab. Imagine a world where any nation could simply steal another nations territory without consequences, there would be wars on every continent. Except we did nothing when they invaded Crimea. We went into Afghanistan in the 1870s to stop the Russians getting to India who of course invited us in........... |
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Post by Steve on Aug 31, 2023 17:23:29 GMT
As Victor Meldrew would say "I dont believe it" Its almost as though Rishi Sunak wants the Conservative Party to lose the next general election I reckon Ladbrokes and William Hill will open books as to how long before he makes another balls-up Grant Shapps - the return of Blunder Man It matters because? even when Labour get in the MOD will still be run by exactly the same people you nitwit, not some representative of the people. Not really as the budget comes from what the Defence Secretary can argue for and the really big procurements, the ones that support and shape the capability have to be signed off at Secretary of State level. |
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Post by distant on Sept 1, 2023 0:03:12 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2023 8:54:58 GMT
There is no "proxy war", it is a war between a Bully and an innocent state; The West, NATO, the democratic world and Europe naturally went to the defence of the innocent party (Ukraine) which was attacked and invaded for no reason other than an illegal land and territory - grab. Imagine a world where any nation could simply steal another nations territory without consequences, there would be wars on every continent. A very simplistic view for me. There were human right abuses against the Russian minority in Ukraine, the US was behind the coup attempt of 2014 or do you deny there was a coup in 2014? I have loaded clips before of Blinken and that other female US Hawk trying to get Klitscho involved and saying they don't give a fxxk about the EU, they are both of Jewish background out of former Soviet or Russian even Boris Johson is of this background from one of his aunts I think and they hate Russia with a vengeance. Unless we are going to position our own nukes with iCBMs around the world with massive range we should have never have got in involved yet we are still a poodle. We are never going to do this because we can't afford it and France knows better even with their nuke weapons which is why they are more balanced with their statements. The personal views of people in the US administration at the time of Euromaidan are not relevant to the FACT that most people in Ukraine wish for a European future as opposed to a continuation of been tied to Russia. President Yanukovych who fled the country in 2014 was elected on a promise to forge closer ties with Europe, and to seek EU membership. This was a major reason for Mr Yanukovych been elected to office, and the rest is history .. he Reneged on that promise, hence the mass demonstrations. The fact that US politicians and senior security / CIA officials may have wanted Ukraine to pull away from Russian influence, does not alter Ukrainian public opinion, but it does however fit neatly into the conspiracy theory that "It was the USA what did it", a conspiracy theory almost exclusively put out by either the far Left or populist right wingers verging on neo Nazis. As for human rights abuses, alleged to have been committed against the minority ethnic Russian population, I have found very little or no evidence of such, and I do not believe this to be true. There was however disputes over language, and personally I can see BOTH sides of the argument, I understand the Ukrainian argument that Ukraine wishes to promote its own "Ukrainian" culture, and move away from a kind of imperial or Soviet dominance of all things Russian. On the other hand I accept that Ukrainians of ethnic Russian origin should be able to have Russian as an official language in some Provinces. It is important here to stress that at no time in any Ukrainian Province was the Russian language ever banned from daily usage. |
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