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Post by sheepy on Aug 28, 2023 9:15:42 GMT
So, now we can't then, we just need to attack this zombie government. Jeez. The thread is about Nadine. If you dont want to discuss Nadine ans her comment it would be more comprehensible if you linked comments about other governments to this one. No it isn't it that was side issue to keep everyone on your course, zombie governments is the issue, this isn't the only one. |
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Post by oracle75 on Aug 28, 2023 9:18:50 GMT
Look. I am having serious trouble understanding your posts. They often come out of nowhere and refer to nothing concrete.
So I'll just give them a miss from now on.
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Post by andrewbrown on Aug 28, 2023 9:20:21 GMT
I know you criticise the Government - that is all you do.. ..but to try and kid people that you are not partisan takes some chutzpah.. A moderator should not be criticising someone personally. What does it have to do with the subject and why does it matter? He's free to criticise me, I have no issue with that. I know what he is trying to say, but clearly calling a floating voter partisan is an incorrect use of the word. |
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Post by sheepy on Aug 28, 2023 9:21:01 GMT
Look. I am having serious trouble understanding your posts. They often come out of nowhere and refer to nothing concrete. So I'll just give them a miss from now on. I bet, now are we talking about zombie governments or not? as that is what you asked for, or are we still trying to steer the mods and every post to your own way of thinking? |
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Post by Steve on Aug 28, 2023 11:28:39 GMT
OIC mods can break rules. Pacifico should read the rules of this forum. So should you. I have, and NO rules have been broken, except the ones in your own head. You clearly either havn't read the rules or are just in plain denial of them ukpoliticsdebate.boards.net/thread/30/forum-rules-read |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Aug 28, 2023 13:25:05 GMT
The thread is about Nadine... No it isn't. It's about whether her appraisal was correct. |
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Post by Fairsociety on Aug 28, 2023 15:23:22 GMT
Yeah just like telling poster to 'fuck off' and accusing them about being 'happy that unvaccinated people are dying of COVID'
You need to thank me for not reporting you for clearly 'Breaching the rules', I take great offense at being told to 'fuck off', and being happy people were dying, you very sick poster.
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Post by zanygame on Aug 28, 2023 19:36:05 GMT
They got Brexit done which has improved pay and working conditions for thousands. They kept millions in employment throughout the pandemic.
Well the negative consequences of paying people to sit at home doing nothing are becoming more apparent by the day. So whether you can count that episode as a success is moot. I think this needs a thread of its own. So many aspects. Hope you don't mind. |
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Post by Pacifico on Aug 28, 2023 21:33:38 GMT
Moderation Notice
I have deleted half a dozen posts - if anyone has an objection to a specific post then report it.
Bickering about who said what will not be tolerated
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Post by distant on Aug 29, 2023 7:00:17 GMT
Yes, dopey Dorries is right about Sunak but that doesn't excuse her bizarre behavior. She now says she wanted to hang on until she found out why she isn't going to the House of Lords, something she obviously craves. What as she ever done to merit a place in the HOL? I would say absolutely nothing. When she worked for Hunt who was at the time health minister she kept quiet about Hunt's failure to make any improvements in the NHS in his long 6 year tenure. It was only later when she wanted to attack Hunt for criticising Bozo that she admitted this. I remember when she supported Truss in her leadership bid and we all know how that turned out, Truss crashed the economy and was sacked after only a few weeks in power. I saw Rees Mogg and Dorries on the TV when they were supporting Truss. sMogg spouted his usual propaganda and Truss said nothing until the end when she piped up and said "and she's a woman" as though this in itself qualifies Truss to lead the country. Maybe she was just saying that she knows what a woman is and this amazing skill entitles Dorries to be a peer of the realm. To be fair to her, the majority of people on Bozo's "carousel of cronies" honors list don't deserve it either. Think back to the two Tories who broke lockdown rules and mocked the rules that Bozo himself made.
It wouldn't surprise me if the answer she wants might involve Bozo himself. It's possible that someone might have offered him a couple of million to make them a lord so he had to remove someone from the list to make room. After all, to Bozo, Dorries has served her purpose by attacking Bozo's critics but is now no longer needed.
Who knows, she may not have actually resigned. She said she had resigned in June but it turned out to be a lie. Maybe it's just another big lie.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2023 22:01:21 GMT
Just to be clear, are you disputing this? Depends, if he means the long-term PFI investment improved things until all the repayments caused it become another bad government investment? PFI was never used to to employ more doctors and nurses, or to change legislation to stop junior doctors from working utterly ridiculous hours, only real investment was used to do this PFI was used to build new hospitals and to replace old ones What excusers of the Tories tend to do is use the "PFI argument" as some kind of plausable excuse that Labour only improved the NHS by borrowing lots of money, which is not true. Most NHS Trusts never had PFI contracts, yet the entire NHS improved considerably 1997 - 2010, its an excuse, and always has been a very poor excuse. |
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Post by Pacifico on Aug 30, 2023 6:50:58 GMT
PFI was a financial disaster for the NHS. NHS hospitals under strain over £80bn PFI bill for just £13bn of actual investment
The NHS faces a PFI postcode lottery as some trusts are forced to spend up to £1 in every £6 on PFI payments with worrying consequences for patient safety
The NHS has so far only paid around £25bn of the £80bn expected total cost of PFI since it was first introduced in 1998, less than a third of the final price.
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Post by jonksy on Aug 30, 2023 8:08:20 GMT
PFI was a financial disaster for the NHS. NHS hospitals under strain over £80bn PFI bill for just £13bn of actual investment
The NHS faces a PFI postcode lottery as some trusts are forced to spend up to £1 in every £6 on PFI payments with worrying consequences for patient safety
The NHS has so far only paid around £25bn of the £80bn expected total cost of PFI since it was first introduced in 1998, less than a third of the final price.
IPPR Dunno if you have read the latest many of the buildings Labour built under pfi are now unsafe due to concrete cancer..FFS |
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Post by Steve on Aug 30, 2023 9:55:33 GMT
PFI was a financial disaster for the NHS. NHS hospitals under strain over £80bn PFI bill for just £13bn of actual investment
The NHS faces a PFI postcode lottery as some trusts are forced to spend up to £1 in every £6 on PFI payments with worrying consequences for patient safety
The NHS has so far only paid around £25bn of the £80bn expected total cost of PFI since it was first introduced in 1998, less than a third of the final price.
IPPR Dunno if you have read the latest many of the buildings Labour built under pfi are now unsafe due to concrete cancer..FFS Nope. Timeline doesn't support that at all. |
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Post by jonksy on Aug 30, 2023 10:01:40 GMT
Dunno if you have read the latest many of the buildings Labour built under pfi are now unsafe due to concrete cancer..FFS Nope. Timeline doesn't support that at all. Who cares what timeline states. They are not the greatest of sources. I will find a link when I get home. Many of the schools labour built are now not fit for purpose and have been deemed as unsafe. |
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