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Post by oracle75 on Aug 25, 2023 8:06:39 GMT
When you use your device to take part in social media and click "like" or comment positively to a point of view, it registers just like you h1ve ordered an air frier on line and you get dozens of ad for air friers in your inbox.
If you indicate interest in a particular opinion you will get your inbox full of niche amateur links and videos supporting that point of view.
Very soon your whole reality is couched in that reality.
You are brainwashed by algorithms. You dont see any other perspective.
In my opinion, this is very dangerous for the average punter.
In the same manner as their rush to ban things they dont like, including international law, algorithms should be banned.
Unfortunately the genie is out of the bottle.
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Post by wapentake on Aug 25, 2023 9:24:55 GMT
When you use your device to take part in social media and click "like" or comment positively to a point of view, it registers just like you h1ve ordered an air frier on line and you get dozens of ad for air friers in your inbox. If you indicate interest in a particular opinion you will get your inbox full of niche amateur links and videos supporting that point of view. Very soon your whole reality is couched in that reality. You are brainwashed by algorithms. You dont see any other perspective. In my opinion, this is very dangerous for the average punter. In the same manner as their rush to ban things they dont like, including international law, algorithms should be banned. Unfortunately the genie is out of the bottle. However if you have a functioning brain and look widely enough you should be able to have a clearer picture. There is the problem though of information overload. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2023 10:38:49 GMT
When you use your device to take part in social media and click "like" or comment positively to a point of view, it registers just like you h1ve ordered an air frier on line and you get dozens of ad for air friers in your inbox. If you indicate interest in a particular opinion you will get your inbox full of niche amateur links and videos supporting that point of view. Very soon your whole reality is couched in that reality. You are brainwashed by algorithms. You dont see any other perspective. In my opinion, this is very dangerous for the average punter. In the same manner as their rush to ban things they dont like, including international law, algorithms should be banned. Unfortunately the genie is out of the bottle. And, does this affect everyone? Try replace "you" and "your" with "I" and "my" in your post. |
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Post by Orac on Aug 25, 2023 10:44:06 GMT
When you use your device to take part in social media and click "like" or comment positively to a point of view, it registers just like you h1ve ordered an air frier on line and you get dozens of ad for air friers in your inbox. If you indicate interest in a particular opinion you will get your inbox full of niche amateur links and videos supporting that point of view. Very soon your whole reality is couched in that reality. You are brainwashed by algorithms. You dont see any other perspective. In my opinion, this is very dangerous for the average punter. In the same manner as their rush to ban things they dont like, including international law, algorithms should be banned. Unfortunately the genie is out of the bottle. However if you have a functioning brain and look widely enough you should be able to have a clearer picture. There is the problem though of information overload. The antidote would be critical thinking. However, we have a borked education system that teaches children that questions, doubt and variance are evil and need to be stamped out. It was pretty predictable and I fear the journey into self indulgent stupidity has only just begun. AI will make mincemeat of people's minds unless they can think critically and the fashioon is to punish critical thinking. |
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Post by Vanna on Aug 25, 2023 10:50:02 GMT
Agree. They are getting at them at primary school level now, so expect their minds to be badly damaged by indoctrination. Some of the brave ones are saying now that their whole generation is being damaged.
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Post by borchester on Aug 25, 2023 11:06:29 GMT
Bit lost actually, but I assume that this is some sort of gripe about adverts ?
I quite like them. The other day I was thinking sod it, I need to prune the pear tree, which I was not looking forward too because my loppers are well buggered. So I logged onto the internet and there were a thousand adds with folk declaring that various brands had transformed not only their fruit trees, but their very lives. All bollocks I dare say, but it cheered me up regardless  |
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Post by oracle75 on Aug 25, 2023 11:44:42 GMT
When you use your device to take part in social media and click "like" or comment positively to a point of view, it registers just like you h1ve ordered an air frier on line and you get dozens of ad for air friers in your inbox. If you indicate interest in a particular opinion you will get your inbox full of niche amateur links and videos supporting that point of view. Very soon your whole reality is couched in that reality. You are brainwashed by algorithms. You dont see any other perspective. In my opinion, this is very dangerous for the average punter. In the same manner as their rush to ban things they dont like, including international law, algorithms should be banned. Unfortunately the genie is out of the bottle. And, does this affect everyone? Try replace "you" and "your" with "I" and "my" in your post. I dont have a social media account unless you count this one. I have often said i never watch Youtube clips and dont watch any of them linked to in here. I suggest you speak foe yourself. |
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Post by Bentley on Aug 25, 2023 11:55:30 GMT
Is this some kind of recognition of the warning that we had a decade or more ago, regarding social media ?
That if something is free then you are the product .
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2023 12:47:59 GMT
And, does this affect everyone? Try replace "you" and "your" with "I" and "my" in your post. I dont have a social media account unless you count this one. I have often said i never watch Youtube clips and dont watch any of them linked to in here. I suggest you speak foe yourself. OK. I'll speak for myself. I have a Twitter account. I have half a Facebook account shared with my wife, so don't really use that. I ignore all the adverts I get served up on Twitter aka "X". So you and I do not have a problem. But your OP is a good warning for those who do. |
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Post by Vanna on Aug 25, 2023 12:50:10 GMT
I think an inordinate amount of crass commercialism is what is giving folk the hump. A certain amount is necessary in order to keep things free, but a wholesale invasion of not only products but useless and often false info about health and various other things plus popular trivia tattles are more than unacceptable to anyone with more than one brain cell.
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Post by Hutchyns on Aug 25, 2023 14:03:05 GMT
oracle75 I'm not sure the genie was ever in the bottle, and to some extent it could be suggested that the algorithms are just a more up to date and efficient way of delivering what most people want. There's a good reason algorithms are written that way, they could surely have been just as easily written to provide the opposite ? For instance if I/we/you (select your personal preference  ) type into google or a Social media site 'Orange Man Bad', I'm not going to be presented with the alternate argument of why Trump is good. A search for 'Ban the veil, hooray !' is unlikely to throw up an essay on the importance of freedom of choice re clothing, and the dangers of excessive State interference. So why aren't the algorithms set to reply with a selection of counter points of view, or a more balanced mixture ? Could it be because they just help provide in a digital age, what has always been the case ? Go back a few decades, and people mostly bought the newspaper that took a similar editorial line on issues, that they themselves identified with. If the Paperboy knocked on the door and said "Sorry Mr.Monte, but there's no Guardian for you today, they're on strike, but here's a free Daily Mail for you instead as a replacement" .... the customer would reel back in horror. His self programmed mental algorithm is telling him to reject The Mail like the plague ! It was ever thus ...... although our relabelling of criticism as 'hate', and the need for safe spaces to help some to avoid panic attacks that might result from being exposed to the 'wrong' opinions, or to Jonksy's vocabulary, indicates a preference for more of the same, and an even stronger dose if possible. |
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Post by johnofgwent on Aug 25, 2023 14:36:49 GMT
When you use your device to take part in social media and click "like" or comment positively to a point of view, it registers just like you h1ve ordered an air frier on line and you get dozens of ad for air friers in your inbox. If you indicate interest in a particular opinion you will get your inbox full of niche amateur links and videos supporting that point of view. Very soon your whole reality is couched in that reality. You are brainwashed by algorithms. You dont see any other perspective. In my opinion, this is very dangerous for the average punter. In the same manner as their rush to ban things they dont like, including international law, algorithms should be banned. Unfortunately the genie is out of the bottle. And, does this affect everyone? Try replace "you" and "your" with "I" and "my" in your post. it does in fact affect any reader of the post who has not gone to a fairly gruesome level of denying ever more aggressive websites the ability to leave traces on your browsing device for others to find As an IT professional i started to engage in this war of attrition but frankly gave up, just as i used to engage in SEO so i could offer such services to clients. I quickly realised it was pointless doing it for myself. |
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Post by Vanna on Aug 25, 2023 15:01:57 GMT
I ignore almost all of them. I might click on something that interests me but as no one really knows what that is, I notice see it. I have a broad browsing tendency so they do their best to sell me dresses or trousers, if they think I might not be what I seem to be. They don't know, after all. If I buy something online they pick up on it and run with it but I am hardly going to buy it again so soon so it's rather pointless on their part and it's the other half who buys stuff so the plaintive ads for workshop machinery or car bits do nothing for me.
It's all a bit sad when you look at it from a reasonable distance. Our world has become Americanised and selling and buying appears to be the centre of American economic existence, and of their civilization and psyche (what is left of it). Perhaps not being so keen to click the click bait may go some way to getting rid of it.
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Aug 25, 2023 18:05:20 GMT
When you use your device to take part in social media and click "like" or comment positively to a point of view, it registers just like you h1ve ordered an air frier on line and you get dozens of ad for air friers in your inbox. If you indicate interest in a particular opinion you will get your inbox full of niche amateur links and videos supporting that point of view. Very soon your whole reality is couched in that reality. You are brainwashed by algorithms. You dont see any other perspective. In my opinion, this is very dangerous for the average punter. In the same manner as their rush to ban things they dont like, including international law, algorithms should be banned. Unfortunately the genie is out of the bottle.
It's not just social media, it's your entire search and surfing history. Your every article read, every purchase and every click is being logged. All of ours are and we are all having our personal preferences fed back to us.
So before you rush headlong to the assumption that everyone who disagrees with you has been brainwashed, what controls have you put in place to ensure that it's not you?
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Post by Steve on Aug 25, 2023 18:51:55 GMT
When you use your device to take part in social media and click "like" or comment positively to a point of view, it registers just like you h1ve ordered an air frier on line and you get dozens of ad for air friers in your inbox. If you indicate interest in a particular opinion you will get your inbox full of niche amateur links and videos supporting that point of view. Very soon your whole reality is couched in that reality. You are brainwashed by algorithms. You dont see any other perspective. In my opinion, this is very dangerous for the average punter. In the same manner as their rush to ban things they dont like, including international law, algorithms should be banned. Unfortunately the genie is out of the bottle. I suggest 'the average punter' is far smarter than you give them credit for. Yes we get bombarded with targeted ads etc but brainwashed? Nah, I (and I suspect billions of others) just blank them out |
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) type into google or a Social media site 'Orange Man Bad', I'm not going to be presented with the alternate argument of why Trump is good. A search for 'Ban the veil, hooray !' is unlikely to throw up an essay on the importance of freedom of choice re clothing, and the dangers of excessive State interference.
