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Post by Dogburger on Aug 26, 2023 15:32:45 GMT
Well at least you admit the right wing are not the majority of the people. That you think the Tories should represent a minority is fine with me as it means they'll never get back in power. There is no party in the UK that represents a majority of the people. I think that should be parties rather than party . Most people with strong views are either left or right which isn't represented anywhere by the middle of the road social democrates that inhabit the benches of Westminster .Anyone seen to move away from the centre is quickly removed ,the status quo must be preserved . |
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Post by Bentley on Aug 26, 2023 15:35:56 GMT
Boris was big on spin. He and other Tories never wanted to admit post Brexit was going to be tough for a while .One of those rare posts you make that I agree with. I suggest that you re read the last(for a while) before you fully commit . |
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Post by Red Rackham on Aug 26, 2023 15:38:38 GMT
Boris was big on spin. He and other Tories never wanted to admit post Brexit was going to be tough for a while . I don't think Boris was sold on Brexit, over the years there have been many contradictions in things he said and wrote. In the 1990's he wrote scathing articles about the EU, yet in his 2001 book ‘Friends, Voters, Countrymen’ he said Britains interests were best served 'in' the EU. Then he fronted the leave campaign, so who knows. Personally I think he is pro EU, but like most politicians he went with votes rather than his Conscience. |
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Post by Fairsociety on Aug 26, 2023 15:45:58 GMT
Boris was big on spin. He and other Tories never wanted to admit post Brexit was going to be tough for a while . I don't think Boris was sold on Brexit, over the years there have been many contradictions in things he said and wrote. In the 1990's he wrote scathing articles about the EU, yet in his 2001 book ‘Friends, Voters, Countrymen’ he said Britains interests were best served 'in' the EU. Then he fronted the leave campaign, so who knows. Personally I think he is pro EU, but like most politicians he went with votes rather than his Conscience. Boris did try to run with the fox and the hounds, but he like many others had a eye opener when we seen the antics of the EU, and their utter vindictive, malicious attempts to sabotage Brexit.
It was a breathtaking, jaw dropping example of just how hostile, vindictive the EU really are, their true colours came shining through when we voted to leave, their hatred and hostility towards the UK was exposed, and why the likes of Starmer/Sunak or any other political party leader in the UK would want to play ball with these hostile entities, only shows they are looking after their own 'personal interests', that's why they are playing ball with them.
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Post by Bentley on Aug 26, 2023 15:46:32 GMT
Boris was big on spin. He and other Tories never wanted to admit post Brexit was going to be tough for a while . I don't think Boris was sold on Brexit, over the years there have been many contradictions in things he said and wrote. In the 1990's he wrote scathing articles about the EU, yet in his 2001 book ‘Friends, Voters, Countrymen’ he said Britains interests were best served 'in' the EU. Then he fronted the leave campaign, so who knows. Personally I think he is pro EU, but like most politicians he went with votes rather than his Conscience. Iirc it was touch and go to which side he would support. He is a narcissist but it took a narcissist to take us out. Any prolonged introspection makes a Theresa May. |
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Post by zanygame on Aug 26, 2023 16:04:43 GMT
I don't think Boris was sold on Brexit, over the years there have been many contradictions in things he said and wrote. In the 1990's he wrote scathing articles about the EU, yet in his 2001 book ‘Friends, Voters, Countrymen’ he said Britains interests were best served 'in' the EU. Then he fronted the leave campaign, so who knows. Personally I think he is pro EU, but like most politicians he went with votes rather than his Conscience. Boris did try to run with the fox and the hounds, but he like many others had a eye opener when we seen the antics of the EU, and their utter vindictive, malicious attempts to sabotage Brexit.
It was a breathtaking, jaw dropping example of just how hostile, vindictive the EU really are, their true colours came shining through when we voted to leave, their hatred and hostility towards the UK was exposed, and why the likes of Starmer/Sunak or any other political party leader in the UK would want to play ball with these hostile entities, only shows they are looking after their own 'personal interests', that's why they are playing ball with them.
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Post by Red Rackham on Aug 26, 2023 16:04:50 GMT
Yet you are always telling us he doesn't have a hope in hell of winning an election. So he must be putting in place everything Labour desire. Yep. The Tory party have made a shite job of running the country, so they'll never get elected. Sunak too little too late. I disagree, the Tories have not done a 'shite' job of running the country, I concede they havent been brilliant and they could do better. However, this governments biggest failing by far is not the economy, or the NHS, or the cost of living crisis or any other of the usual political hot potato's all of which would have been at least the same, probably worse under a Labour government. This government's biggest failing by far is the utter failure to stop the illegal invasion from the EU. This more than anything has the potential to lose Sunak the election. In January this year he promised to stop the boats, he said he would introduce legislation to stop the boats. Eight months later, five days ago actually, when asked about his pledge to stop the boats he said, 'it's complicated', which means he doesn't want to upset the EU. Sunak is a spineless gutless coward. The problem for the elctorate is, when it comes to illegals and appeasing the EU Starmer will undoubtedly be worse. Hobsons choice? I should coco. |
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Post by zanygame on Aug 26, 2023 16:05:35 GMT
I don't think Boris was sold on Brexit, over the years there have been many contradictions in things he said and wrote. In the 1990's he wrote scathing articles about the EU, yet in his 2001 book ‘Friends, Voters, Countrymen’ he said Britains interests were best served 'in' the EU. Then he fronted the leave campaign, so who knows. Personally I think he is pro EU, but like most politicians he went with votes rather than his Conscience. Iirc it was touch and go to which side he would support. He is a narcissist but it took a narcissist to take us out. Any prolonged introspection makes a Theresa May. Yes having to consider the effects would put you right off. |
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Post by zanygame on Aug 26, 2023 16:12:07 GMT
Yep. The Tory party have made a shite job of running the country, so they'll never get elected. Sunak too little too late. I disagree, the Tories have not done a 'shite' job of running the country, I concede they havent been brilliant and they could do better. However, this governments biggest failing by far is not the economy, or the NHS, or the cost of living crisis or any other of the usual political hot potato's all of which would have been at least the same, probably worse under a Labour government. This government's biggest failing by far is the utter failure to stop the illegal invasion from the EU. This more than anything has the potential to lose Sunak the election. In January this year he promised to stop the boats, he said he would introduce legislation to stop the boats. Eight months later, five days ago actually, when asked about his pledge to stop the boats he said, 'it's complicated', which means he doesn't want to upset the EU. Sunak is a spineless gutless coward. The problem for the elctorate is, when it comes to illegals and appeasing the EU Starmer will undoubtedly be worse. Hobsons choice? I should coco. That's the biggest failing for Red Rackham. Not the country. British public concerns. 93% cost of ,living crises 87% NHS failing 73% The economic outlook 61% Climate Change |
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Post by Bentley on Aug 26, 2023 16:14:21 GMT
Iirc it was touch and go to which side he would support. He is a narcissist but it took a narcissist to take us out. Any prolonged introspection makes a Theresa May. Yes having to consider the effects would put you right off. Not necessarily. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Aug 26, 2023 16:14:48 GMT
I don't think Boris was sold on Brexit, over the years there have been many contradictions in things he said and wrote. In the 1990's he wrote scathing articles about the EU, yet in his 2001 book ‘Friends, Voters, Countrymen’ he said Britains interests were best served 'in' the EU. Then he fronted the leave campaign, so who knows. Personally I think he is pro EU, but like most politicians he went with votes rather than his Conscience. Boris did try to run with the fox and the hounds, but he like many others had a eye opener when we seen the antics of the EU, and their utter vindictive, malicious attempts to sabotage Brexit.
It was a breathtaking, jaw dropping example of just how hostile, vindictive the EU really are, their true colours came shining through when we voted to leave, their hatred and hostility towards the UK was exposed, and why the likes of Starmer/Sunak or any other political party leader in the UK would want to play ball with these hostile entities, only shows they are looking after their own 'personal interests', that's why they are playing ball with them.
Absolutely agree, the EU really showed their hostile vindictive true colours during and after the Brexit campaign. And that hasn't changed, the only thing that's changed is the fact that they are no so public about it now. Behind closed doors the EU will be absolutely thrilled with the cross channel invasion, quite obviously they could stop it, but Britain must be punished for Brexit. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Aug 26, 2023 16:16:34 GMT
I disagree, the Tories have not done a 'shite' job of running the country, I concede they havent been brilliant and they could do better. However, this governments biggest failing by far is not the economy, or the NHS, or the cost of living crisis or any other of the usual political hot potato's all of which would have been at least the same, probably worse under a Labour government. This government's biggest failing by far is the utter failure to stop the illegal invasion from the EU. This more than anything has the potential to lose Sunak the election. In January this year he promised to stop the boats, he said he would introduce legislation to stop the boats. Eight months later, five days ago actually, when asked about his pledge to stop the boats he said, 'it's complicated', which means he doesn't want to upset the EU. Sunak is a spineless gutless coward. The problem for the elctorate is, when it comes to illegals and appeasing the EU Starmer will undoubtedly be worse. Hobsons choice? I should coco. That's the biggest failing for Red Rackham. Not the country. British public concerns. 93% cost of ,living crises 87% NHS failing 73% The economic outlook 61% Climate Change LOL, you're away with the pro EU left wing fairies. |
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Post by Orac on Aug 26, 2023 16:17:13 GMT
I disagree, the Tories have not done a 'shite' job of running the country, I concede they havent been brilliant and they could do better. However, this governments biggest failing by far is not the economy, or the NHS, or the cost of living crisis or any other of the usual political hot potato's all of which would have been at least the same, probably worse under a Labour government. This government's biggest failing by far is the utter failure to stop the illegal invasion from the EU. This more than anything has the potential to lose Sunak the election. In January this year he promised to stop the boats, he said he would introduce legislation to stop the boats. Eight months later, five days ago actually, when asked about his pledge to stop the boats he said, 'it's complicated', which means he doesn't want to upset the EU. Sunak is a spineless gutless coward. The problem for the elctorate is, when it comes to illegals and appeasing the EU Starmer will undoubtedly be worse. Hobsons choice? I should coco. That's the biggest failing for Red Rackham. Not the country. British public concerns. 93% cost of ,living crises 87% NHS failing 73% The economic outlook 61% Climate Change Red tried to explain but it didn't penetrate your dogmatism. The bad economy is to some degree fixed in place by the gigantic public sector borrowing / spending spending carnival we just had wash over us. Of course you want the same again. |
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Post by zanygame on Aug 26, 2023 16:19:13 GMT
Yes having to consider the effects would put you right off. Not necessarily. You changed your mind. |
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Post by zanygame on Aug 26, 2023 16:20:37 GMT
That's the biggest failing for Red Rackham. Not the country. British public concerns. 93% cost of ,living crises 87% NHS failing 73% The economic outlook 61% Climate Change LOL, you're away with the pro EU left wing fairies. And the Office of national statistics. Still I expect you and the Express know better that they do. |
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