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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Aug 16, 2023 16:15:59 GMT
Cars and all vehicles in general cause polution, and road usage IS A MAJOR PROBLEM, with most of the worlds petrol been used by combustion engines, which creates air polution, including nitrous oxides and particulates. The motor car IS the NUMBER ONE contributor to global warming and climate change through emissions of carbon dioxide. We have no choice - it is time to make travelling by car more inconvenient, and more costly compared to using public transport. There is no valid reason for opposing the extention of ULEZ in London, any car which pays the charge would generally be at least 17 years old ( Diesel cars 8 years old ). The world needs to wake up as to what is happening - get a life Do stop talking bollocks.
It's been proved time and again that ULEZ is a cash cow and has nothing to do with pollution.
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Post by Pacifico on Aug 16, 2023 16:22:45 GMT
For exposure to pollution an hour on the London Underground is the equivalent to spending a whole day standing on a street corner in the centre of London. So to save lives we must force people out of their cars onto the tube....
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2023 17:14:11 GMT
If ULEZ is a "cash cow" and has nothing to do with polution, then how is it that in 2020, four years after Khan introduced the Low Emmissions Zone, polution, namely Nitrogen Dioxide had seen a dramatic and significent fall.
Four years after the first zone was introduced, there was a 94% reduction in the numbers of people living in areas of inner London with illegal levels of Nitrogen Dioxide.
Doctor Gary Fuller is an air polution expert at Imperial College, London, and he stated that "Breathing bad air has had an intolerable impact on Londoners’ health for far too long [but], starting around 2016, London’s air pollution underwent a dramatic change, “The changes in NO2 in central London and along main bus routes were some of the fastest that we’ve ever measured” in 30 years of monitoring, he said. “These successes show that our city’s air pollution is not an intractable problem.”
Professor Stephev Holgate (Special Advisor on Air Quality to The Royal College of Physicians) "Air pollution is a scourge on society, especially harming the young and old. What the mayor of London has shown in his first term is that major reductions in toxic pollutants can be achieved and that businesses and the public are willing to make the necessary changes to deliver this.” He said the pollution cuts would have enormous benefits for Londoners"
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Post by Pacifico on Aug 16, 2023 17:32:07 GMT
If ULEZ is a "cash cow" and has nothing to do with polution, then how is it that in 2020, four years after Khan introduced the Low Emmissions Zone, polution, namely Nitrogen Dioxide had seen a dramatic and significent fall. Cars have got cleaner - go anywhere in the country and air quality has improved. Bit of a laugh claiming that Ghengis Khan is responsible for cleaner air rather than EU emissions regulations...
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Aug 17, 2023 7:00:34 GMT
If ULEZ is a "cash cow" and has nothing to do with polution, then how is it that in 2020, four years after Khan introduced the Low Emmissions Zone, polution, namely Nitrogen Dioxide had seen a dramatic and significent fall. Four years after the first zone was introduced, there was a 94% reduction in the numbers of people living in areas of inner London with illegal levels of Nitrogen Dioxide. Doctor Gary Fuller is an air polution expert at Imperial College, London, and he stated that "Breathing bad air has had an intolerable impact on Londoners’ health for far too long [but], starting around 2016, London’s air pollution underwent a dramatic change, “The changes in NO2 in central London and along main bus routes were some of the fastest that we’ve ever measured” in 30 years of monitoring, he said. “These successes show that our city’s air pollution is not an intractable problem.” Professor Stephev Holgate (Special Advisor on Air Quality to The Royal College of Physicians) "Air pollution is a scourge on society, especially harming the young and old. What the mayor of London has shown in his first term is that major reductions in toxic pollutants can be achieved and that businesses and the public are willing to make the necessary changes to deliver this.” He said the pollution cuts would have enormous benefits for Londoners" In 2015 the Euro 6 standard for diesels (particulate filters) came in.
I totally agree that old diesels were a problem but there's very few of those left now.
Besides, inner London has a far greater concentration of vehicles than semi-rural outer London locations. As you've been told many times, Khan's own figures indicate an insignificant improvement in air quality in outer London from the ULEZ expansion.
It's a cash cow.
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Aug 17, 2023 8:52:59 GMT
Here you go, Fiddler - yet another link for you:
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Post by Handyman on Aug 17, 2023 17:55:57 GMT
The Government did not insist that Khan should implement the expansion of ULEZ to cover all of London ,
From O London
It becomes increasingly relevant when looking at what subsequent funding agreements include. For example in the following letter, sent on October 31 2020, the only reference to the ULEZ is that TfL/the mayor “maintains commitment to the decision made by the Mayor on 6 June 2018 to create a single larger ULEZ bounded by the North Circular and South Circular Roads with the extension coming into effect as planned on 25 October 2021”.
And in the next agreement between TfL and the government, outlined in a letter dated June 1 2021, former transport secretary Grant Shapps writes that “should the Mayor choose to amend his existing plans to extend the ULEZ boundary from 25 October 2021 these will have to be paid for without recourse to Government funding and without recourse to additional borrowing, savings, service changes or deferrals”.
“Additional income streams for any such increases will need to be identified and shared with Government,” he adds.
The only time the forthcoming expansion to cover all of Greater London is referenced in any of the communications is in the letter for the most recent funding settlement, dated August 30, 2022. In it, Mr Shapps, at this point still the transport secretary, notes Mr Khan’s intention to consult on a London-wide ULEZ “for introduction in 2023, to improve air quality in London”.
He continues to write that while TfL has estimated the scheme will cost £250 million, the grant funding from government “should not be used to cover the costs of your policy decisions to charge road users, and therefore if you choose to implement this scheme or other road user charging options, you must fund them through alternative sources available to you”.
The funding agreement included in this letter is to run until March 2024, with no further correspondence included in TfL’s funding letters library. And so, based on this, it appears as if no requirements were put on the mayor by government to roll out the ULEZ as planned on August 29.
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Post by Handyman on Aug 17, 2023 17:59:11 GMT
Stop paying every fine and every charge, the more people pay the more Kunt the thief will take away..........
Drivers' fury as TfL forces motorists to pay a toll fee at the Blackwall Tunnel - one of the busiest crossings across the Thames - to cover the costs of its new £2billion tunnel under the river (on top of the £12.50 ULEZ charge)
Furious drivers have slammed Mayor of Londonistan kunt kan after it emerged they will soon have to pay a toll to use the Blackwall Tunnel - one of the busiest crossings over the Thames.
Transport for London has confirmed it will be charging drivers who use the previously free route, which is used by thousands of motorists commuting into the capital from the South East. The toll will vary by vehicle and has not yet been decided.
The news will cause yet more misery for motorists who are already bracing for £12.50 daily bills for entering the Ultra Low Emission Zone (ULEZ) when it expands to cover Greater Londonistan at the end of the month. The ULEZ fee will apply to vehicles that do not meet minimum emissions standards.
The toll for the Blackwall Tunnel will only be implemented once the Silvertown Tunnel, which will link Silvertown and Greenwich, opens in 2025.
TfL say the fee will cover the £2billion cost of building and maintaining the new tunnel, with any surplus 'reinvested' into the wider transport network.
Local Councils will probably increase their Parking Fees, Hackney is already doing that or done it
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Post by jonksy on Aug 18, 2023 8:17:03 GMT
Angry drivers threaten to ‘kick Kunt Khan out of office' over new ULEZ car tax fees...
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Post by Handyman on Aug 18, 2023 8:20:40 GMT
More power to their elbow he is not listening to people who live in London,
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Aug 18, 2023 9:25:15 GMT
I suspect that Khan is toast come the next mayoral election.
Come to mention it, I suspect that Labours popularity will be taking a nosedive in London too.
Good.
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Post by Handyman on Aug 18, 2023 9:40:54 GMT
I suspect that Khan is toast come the next mayoral election. Come to mention it, I suspect that Labours popularity will be taking a nosedive in London too. Good. I hope to be out of London by then.
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Aug 18, 2023 9:47:56 GMT
Good for you. Sadly, I still work in London.
That said, I suspect that ULEZ or a version thereof will be rolled out nationally if Labour get in.
We are sleepwalking into 1984 and some brain-deads think it's a good idea.
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Post by jonksy on Aug 18, 2023 12:12:35 GMT
Good for you. Sadly, I still work in London. That said, I suspect that ULEZ or a version thereof will be rolled out nationally if Labour get in. We are sleepwalking into 1984 and some brain-deads think it's a good idea.I wonder if they will change their tiny little minds when they realise it effects them mate?
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Post by sheepy on Aug 18, 2023 17:53:12 GMT
If ULEZ is a "cash cow" and has nothing to do with polution, then how is it that in 2020, four years after Khan introduced the Low Emmissions Zone, polution, namely Nitrogen Dioxide had seen a dramatic and significent fall. Four years after the first zone was introduced, there was a 94% reduction in the numbers of people living in areas of inner London with illegal levels of Nitrogen Dioxide. Doctor Gary Fuller is an air polution expert at Imperial College, London, and he stated that "Breathing bad air has had an intolerable impact on Londoners’ health for far too long [but], starting around 2016, London’s air pollution underwent a dramatic change, “The changes in NO2 in central London and along main bus routes were some of the fastest that we’ve ever measured” in 30 years of monitoring, he said. “These successes show that our city’s air pollution is not an intractable problem.” Professor Stephev Holgate (Special Advisor on Air Quality to The Royal College of Physicians) "Air pollution is a scourge on society, especially harming the young and old. What the mayor of London has shown in his first term is that major reductions in toxic pollutants can be achieved and that businesses and the public are willing to make the necessary changes to deliver this.” He said the pollution cuts would have enormous benefits for Londoners" In 2015 the Euro 6 standard for diesels (particulate filters) came in.
I totally agree that old diesels were a problem but there's very few of those left now.
Besides, inner London has a far greater concentration of vehicles than semi-rural outer London locations. As you've been told many times, Khan's own figures indicate an insignificant improvement in air quality in outer London from the ULEZ expansion.
It's a cash cow.
Any diesel after September 2009 has one many 2008 have them.So how they made up Euro 6 I have no idea.
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